Barack Obama believes that 0.0004 mole fraction of an essential trace gas (which all life depends on) threatens the planet.
Even if you subscribe to his mindless CO2 superstition, Obama already wrecked any prospect of a meaningful agreement when he agreed to let Chinese CO2 emissions grow until the year 2030. China is on track to be 50% of global emissions by 2030, and the US is on track to be less than 5% of global emissions.
US emissions have been decreasing since George Bush was elected. Obama has had essentially zero impact on US emissions.
The US has almost no control over global CO2. Obama’s EPA regulations and his fake Paris agreement are meaningless nonsense. They will have no noticeable impact on global emissions, which are increasing exponentially.
ESRL Global Monitoring Division – Global Greenhouse Gas Reference Network
As with everything else Obama does, the Paris Conference is just one more big lie.
Ya gotta love Josh’s work. 🙂
https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/thecopritual.png?w=1710
https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/thepausecon_scr.jpg?w=2100
Thanks ANDYG55
Sometime the regular contributors here should have our own conference——
We may even talk about climate!
Sorry, my big oil/coal funding is yet to arrive ! 😉
“We may even talk about climate!”
WHAT !!! Don’t you start talking dirty here !!!!
there should be no discussion, our glorious leaders have decided whats good for 97% of us. Who are we to question the superior intellects of climate experts such as O’Bummer, Camaloon, Algorithm & Pope-Paree; they’ve told us we are all doomed unless we cast away all our ill-gotten wealth & return it to them, via carbon taxes.
I think we should also sacrifice our first born to atone for the sins being a denier & promise to never wear stockings again !
“promise to never wear stockings again ”
That is a promise I will keep. ! 🙂
snigger…
ANDYG55, darrylb – Our conference is here 24/7/365 transparent, open, and pretty tolerant of dissenting opinion I might add 😉
I haven’t seen any dissenting opinions. 😉
They’re so desperate, they are now talking in terms of limiting warming by 2%, not 2 degrees C. Well at least, that is what has been banded about in the British MSM all day! Where the hell did they get 2% from or did I miss something?
And 2% of what ?
Well yeah, f@*k knows!
What’s happened to the webcam?
http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_webcam
Earth’s average temp according to some is ~ 287 kelvin so that 2% is 5.74 K Since a degree kelvin is the same size as a degree Celsius that means we can increase the temperature by almost 8C!
http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/lappi/65_Myr_Climate_Change_Rev.jpg
I did the exact same math, and was about to post it. Then I scrolled down…
But I think you meant “almost 6C.”
Looking at the above graph, I only see one spot marked “optimum,” and the temperature appears to be higher than today. Didn’t they tell us the current temperature is the optimum?
They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.
Sorry, Ted you are correct almost 6C. And yes they do not know what “optimum,” means and are doing the usual Progressive Black = White, Slave = Free crap.
The early Eocene (Ypresian) is thought to have had the highest mean annual temperatures of the entire Cenozoic Era, with temperatures about 30° C; (earth is at 14° C today) There was a relatively low temperature gradient from pole to pole; and high precipitation in a world that was essentially ice-free. In other words a tropical rain forset type climate. The Eocene saw the appearance of a number of direct evolutionary ancestors of modern animals. Both groups of modern ungulates (hoofed animals) became prevalent because of a major radiation between Europe and North America, along with carnivorous ungulates like Mesonyx. Early forms of many other modern mammalian orders appeared, including bats, proboscidians (elephants), primates, rodents and marsupials.
TODAY
From Jim Steele:
“About 9000 years ago trees reached the Arctic Ocean coastline and remained during the Holocene Optimum. As temperatures began to cool the trees retreated and are now several hundred kilometers further south.
HIking the high elevation in the Sierra Nevada you can see ancient tree remnants. A 1997 study in Sequoia National Park found that “Tree-line elevation was higher than at present throughout most of the last 3500 years. “
What do you find 9000 years ago?
In Africa, the Sahara is green — Temperate semi-desert (sparse shrubland or grassland)
http://www.esd.ornl.gov/projects/qen/afr(9ky.gif
Compared to today
Deserts cover about one fifth of the Earth’s land surface, Hot and Dry Deserts— vegetation is very rare. from International Sustainability Council – -Audubon
http://www.esd.ornl.gov/projects/qen/afr(pre.gif
http://news.sky.com/story/1596318/poll-growing-doubts-over-climate-change-causes
The British public is increasingly sceptical that human activity is to blame for climate change, a poll for Sky News suggests.
Almost one in five people believes that natural processes rather than man-made carbon dioxide emissions are causing global warming, according to the survey by Sky Data.
In a similar poll by YouGov two years ago, just one in 14 people said humans were not responsible for the problem.
In some classes, Gail, it is a sin to write ‘degree Kelvin’ only Kelvins,’just sayin’
I think that is the case because of connecting absolute temp with heat quantity.
Roberttv—progress
darrylb, That changed after I got out of school high school and was still °K in the textbooks at college. (Takes a while for a change in nomenclature to make it through society.)
(And now I am showing my age)
O/T but of interest:
Making Salt Water Drinkable Just Got 99 Percent Easier
Now if we could just get the Thorium reactors up and running…
Molten Salt Reactors (Updated 22 August 2015)
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Current-and-Future-Generation/Molten-Salt-Reactors/
Small Nuclear Power Reactors
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Nuclear-Fuel-Cycle/Power-Reactors/Small-Nuclear-Power-Reactors/
Just so long as we keep pushing the atmospheric CO2 content up. !
This is highly important for the continued existence of life on the planet.
Andy I want to see 1500 ppm.
During the last glaciation trees were in starvation mode.
http://biblioteca.universia.net/ficha.do?id=912067
Even if we are not headed into another glaciation, earth is going to get cooler not warmer and we need all the CO2 we can generate. If for no other reason than the better water conservation of plants at higher CO2. (Cooler is dryer and stormier.)
the common garden pea experiment
http://www.co2science.org/education/experiments/center_exp/experiment3/figures/final_fig1.jpg
http://www.co2science.org/education/experiments/center_exp/experiment3/figures/final_fig2.jpg
………..
Devil’s Ivy or Golden Pothos (Scindapsus aureus)
http://www.co2science.org/education/experiments/center_exp/experiment1/figures/roots.jpg
Unfortunately I don’t see how 1500ppm is possible, unless we use nuclear to break down carbonates in limestone etc.
I don’t think there is enough known coal to do it.
Gail, the frustrating part is that we have the technology to make the planet bloom and provide abundance for everyone. Sadly we allow ourselves to be ruled by sociopaths and sucked dry by parasites.
Yes Jason, it is very very frustrating.
Back in the 1970s we had the science and technology to help people help themselves. You do not have to jump them into the 21st century. Actually that is not a good idea at all. It is better to given them the tools they can understand so THEY can pull themselves out of the hole they are in.
E. M. Smith has an article on a very simple set of changes that turn a starving family in a semi-arid area into wealth producers.
Leucaena leucocephala collection of links
I am rearranging E.M.’s Words:
1. The Doctor started with the goats. Pen the goats!
Now plants could grow without destruction. Plants shade ground and retain moisture.
2. Burning dung means it is not available to fertilize the ground. Nitrogen compounds burned up, instead of turned to fertilizers. Smoky fires causing blindness and pneumonia (among other things).
Goat Poo is collected and, instead of burning it, fermented in an anaerobic digester (made of local materials – bricks in a hole in the ground, IIRC) and the resultant methane gas piped to the huts to a “stove”. The stove was made of dried mud. Little more than shaped mud where the methane from fermentation, “Gobar Gas”, was mixed with air in a very low pressure ‘jet’ and burned under a pot, that sat in a hole in the dried mud. There was a “clay” (dried mud) chimney that took the exhaust gasses out of the hut. The stove was maybe the size of a can of stew and the chimney about the diameter of your wrist.
3. In that open desert area, a special tree was planted. Leucaena leucocephala. A “bean tree” from Mexico.
This plant, Leucaena, is rather “special” in several ways.
First off, it grows incredibly fast.
Second, is a nitrogen fixer.
Third, it’s from a warm place where it can grow in areas with a lot of water, or not all that much.
Finally, the pods and leaves are (marginally) edible. There is a toxic amino acid in the seeds that can cause “issues” for some animals. In Mexico, very young pods and shoots are cooked (which breaks down some of the toxins) and eaten. More importantly, as long as you give them time to have their gut flora adapt goats can eat the leaves.
Oh, and they “coppice” well. That means if you chop of the main trunk, it resprouts many more trunks from that stump. Nice “poles”.
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So what do our Lord and Masters want us to plant?
EUCALPYUS THE WEED FROM HELL!
And not even a goat will eat it!
DesertYote mentioned a science fair project he helped with. In the USA the only species that did well (as in thrived) under the gum trees was Toxicodendron diversilobum, western poison oak. It is even worse than poison ivy.
This is NOT a nice tree to dump on African and South American third world farmers.
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Back to E. M. and the Mexican Bean Tree:
So instead of introducing a tree that can restore ” A desert eroding to barren rocky dry wasteland reverts to lush forest and grasslands, [causing] Poverty [to] become prosperity.” we have the wholesale introduction of a tree that means death to the indigenous population. (The first Eucalyptus tree was introduced to South Africa in 1828 for timber.)
The USDA Loves it: Eucalyptus saligna Sm – USDA Forest Service
“EUCALPYUS THE WEED FROM HELL!”
We have a whole country full of them down here !!
Do you want some more ??
Wow! Good info! I must have missed that one at E.M.s site. It is also a subject that I am thinking about more and more. I am getting close to retirement and currently plan on moving to a much more rural location where long term agriculture is a topic of interest. Arbor-culture is high on my list. I read “Tree Crops” as a youth and have it worth thinking about. https://archive.org/details/TreeCrops-J.RussellSmith
RO filters are obsolete, actually.
http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/11/scaling-shock-electrodialysis-for.html
In the new process, called shock electrodialysis, water flows through a porous material —in this case, made of tiny glass particles, called a frit — with membranes or electrodes sandwiching the porous material on each side. When an electric current flows through the system, the salty water divides into regions where the salt concentration is either depleted or enriched. When that current is increased to a certain point, it generates a shockwave between these two zones, sharply dividing the streams and allowing the fresh and salty regions to be separated by a simple physical barrier at the center of the flow.
Abstract
Rising global demand for potable water is driving innovation in water treatment methods. Shock electrodialysis is a recently proposed technique that exploits deionization shock waves in porous media to purify water. In this letter, we present the first continuous and scalable shock electrodialysis system and demonstrate the separation of sodium, chloride, and other ions from a feed stream. Our prototype continuously removes over 99% (and up to 99.99%) of salt from diverse electrolytes over a range of concentrations (1 mM, 10 mM, and 100 mM). The desalination data collapses with dimensionless current, scaled to charge advection in the feed stream. Enhanced water recovery with increasing current (up to 79%) is a fortuitous discovery, which we attribute to electro-osmotic pumping. The results suggest the feasibility of using shock electrodialysis for practical water purification applications.
NICE!
This is the type of research I like to see.
Oh now here we go. http://www.politico.eu/article/paris-climate-deal-is-meaningless-cop21-emissions-china-obama/
Once again an article about pollution or CO2 leads off with a picture of harmless steam being emitted from cooling towers. I get so sick of this never ending propaganda BS! If you don’t even know the fundamental mechanics of the emitters why should anyone that knows better take a word you write seriously? Details Details Details! Or is it blatant propaganda? Knowing POLITICO I suspect the later.
http://g8fip1kplyr33r3krz5b97d1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/GettyImages-103341110-714×476.jpg
Time Magazine was writing about why nutty people believe in nutty conspiracy theories, like global warming skeptics. The answer is extremely simple. We actually have looked at thermometer records, past and present. Not exactly a daunting talk, even for someone who is not a climate scientist!
Kinda hard to get into a lather about a couple tens of a degree after looking at this:
http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/lappi/Five_Myr_Climate_Change_Rev.jpg
That is why geologists think CAGW is an absolute crock of pig feces unless paid well to think otherwise.
Gail Typo alert !! shouldn’t that read “tenths of a degree”
Hi. I would like to send you some very good color pics I took as we flew over Greenland on 12 Sept this year. The extensive snow cover is quite evident and I think you will find these interesting. Please send me an email address to which I forward the photos. Bob McMillanAnaheim, CA