Gavin Admits That Claims Of Data Independence Are Bogus

Scientists and the press have been claiming that the different surface temperature data sets showing record heat are independent.


2015 declared the hottest year on record : Nature News & Comment

Gavin just admitted to Senator Roberts that they aren’t. They all come from NOAA.



They not only are not independent, but they are all wrong.


Wood for Trees: Interactive Graphs

We need to bring this scam to an end.

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16 Responses to Gavin Admits That Claims Of Data Independence Are Bogus

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  3. Dave N says:

    I see Gavin is still incapable of understanding the concept of scale. I can picture him parking his car in the middle of traffic, and attempting to claim to others that the distance between his car and the kerb is “quite small”.

    He really is in his own deluded big (which he’d claim to be little) world.

  4. gator69 says:

    My mother’s local Florida paper is pushing the sea level scam again. They cited areas around Tampa that have seen salt water intrusions, and I explained to her again that this is not due to sea level rising, but from homeowners pumping the groundwater out. Many of the older homes in and around Tampa still have wells, and even though most have stopped supplying drinking water, many residents still use them to fill pools and water lawns in order to save money.

    • RAH says:

      At the family get away on a channel in Port Charlotte, FL we use the well for watering the lawn with an automatic sprinkler system and for washing down the deck boat and flushing the outboard motor to get rid of the sea salt. The water in the house however comes from the city system. I’m pretty sure about all the homes around us are set up the same way. We will be installing a pool next year but I have no idea what water will be used to fill it.

  5. Paul Clark says:

    How do you derive the 0.28K offset between GISTEMP and RSS baselines? I make it 0.43K (see, which gives a quite different picture:

    Now it looks like they agree on the current position, but it is the trend that differs. That is primarily because of the satellite’s increased reaction to the 1998 spike – zoom out:

    Now there is a distinct difference between the long-term trends of GISTEMP/HADCRUT and the satellites (RSS/UAH) – 1.7C/century vs 1.3 – and that could be a topic of discussion, but it in no way justifies it being a ‘scam’.

    • Stewart Pid says:

      So in your bizzaro world claiming three independent sources of temperature data records when they are in fact all GHCN is not a scam??
      I won’t even get into the torturing of the data and the smearing of the data to cover all the places with no data … all the while making it warmer as the smearing occurs.

    • RAH says:

      And the gross adjustments of the temperature record I suppose do not justify it being a scam either?

    • Latitude says:

      Paul…claiming there are three independent records….when they are well aware it is not
      …is a scam

    • Gail Combs says:

      Paul Clark,

      Your graph lines up the increasing temp. trend around year 2002 while Tony Heller’s graph lines up the START of the graphs at ~ year 1996 when NOAA was not as far off from the satellite data record.

      The fraud has been increasing over time esp. since Gavin took over.

  6. kuhnkat says:

    He is still lying about it being RAW data. They do not provide real RAW data, only cleaned and adjusted.

  7. Andy Oz says:

    NASA study now says THERE IS a hiatus in Global Warming 1998-2015
    I wish Gavin would make up his mind. Maybe he needs psychiatric help.

    Of course blaming the oceans is convenient.
    0.01 degC change in oceans temp is massive in energy terms but also meaningless.
    It’s just another rabbit hole distraction used to cover up their fraud.

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