Over the last eight months, global temperatures over land have cooled a record 1.2 C. November is seeing record cold in Russia and South Australia, so we should see the record cooling trend continue.
www.woodfortrees.org/data/rss-land/
As temperatures cool at a record pace, experts say global warming is now unstoppable.
Climate change may be escalating so fast it could be ‘game over’, scientists warn | The Independent
People in Russia might tend to disagree with this assessment.
That would be bad news especially for the poor. Cold is only nice if the energy to heat the house and feed the body is not an issue.
And yet, we’re sitting on record corn, soy, beef, chicken, and pork inventories here in the U.S. I would gladly exchange some of our bounty for the assurance that they won’t keep reproducing beyond their own capacity.
AZ, who is “they”?
Try to keep up Danny, follow the conversation. The poor, people who have the most to loose in all this climate change stuff. If they can’t control their reproduction, then it will have a greater impact on their families. We must see that they have the resources to maintain some degree of security ie, food, shelter, education ,and heaven forbid, birth control.
The number 1 universal population limiter is affluence. The number 1 impetus to affluence is individual freedom. i.e. property rights.
So who is ‘we’? Does that mean you’re going to chip in extra to help save them? By the way, about those so called ‘experts’, the word expert is made up of two words, ex = has been and spurt = drip under pressure. And that’s about what those experts’ opinions are worth.
Lose, not loose
Can we just give them a U-Haul to move to a warmer area?
Margaret Sanger also advocated a form of genocide for blacks which is why abortion sprung its ugly head onto the public scene…
So now the sin is being poor? How about the sin being rich and the “rich folk” should limit their reproduction and donate their wealth?
Why one and not the other?
@SpringerRider: One of the most insightful comments I’ve read in a long time.
Archie, so we let the litter keep reproducing with no control and “our” responsibility to ensure they are fed?! Are you insane?
it’s “lose”, not “loose”
“We must see that they have the resources to maintain some degree of security ie, food, shelter, education”
It would seem you’re incredibly generous with the resources of this nation. Don’t we have folks living under freeway ramps here? Are they cold? Hungry? Uneducated?
Archie, birth control, especially so long as abortion on demand remains as common a means of achieving it as it is today, is not the answer, because poverty is not driven by over population in the US. The US poor have higher annual incomes, on average, than the average income of the European middle class. The notion that our poor are poor because there are just too many Americans for all to live comfortably, is nonsense. Furthermore, not only would increasing birth control do nothing about poverty in America, but we are already below the birth rate some researchers have identified as the minimum rate necessary to sustain ANY society indefinitely. Even if our government EXTERMINATED everyone currently living in poverty (a horrifically nonsensical idea to be sure, but apt for driving home the point), by 2050 we’d have about the same poverty rate we do now, and have had throughout our 225 year history as a nation.
In short, our birth rate isn’t driving our over population problem, even if it is driving that problem in other nations. Here the problem is longevity. Americans are simply living too long. And frankly, after Obama, I’d like to get back to worrying about the quality of life for Americans, instead of ignoring it fretting about global quality of life.
It is spelled “lose” not “loose.” try to keep up Archie.
Not going to happen. You prop those societies up and they just continue their poor practices and the next crisis is amplified by that many more of them.
He asked a simple question, and its “lose”…..
Try to spell “lose” correctly Archie.
The more secure…the more likely “they” will continue to breed.
Daniel is one of those poor ‘politically correct’ people sensitized by his professors or the like. Poor boy.
Why, That will only encourage them to continue breeding. Sorry , Mother nature is a dangerous vixen and we may be defeating her self correction methods
Archie, I can “keep up” as you say in your sneering tone and get what Danny is saying. We need more high I.Q. people in the world, not less. More Whites, not more Africans, because Africans are completely dependent on Whites, till the Whites are gone and then utter collapse. Whites evolved in colder climes, understand farming and putting off till the future and invented birth control whereas Africans simply hold out the begging bowl and produce more begging bowls every year.
“More whites”? God, you’re stupid.
Those that dont do much except reproduce and then abandon the responsibility for their children.
They didn’t abandon their responsibilities. They choose to Mary the govt instead of the daddy. They Shifted responsibility. They prefer a master to self reliance.
I believe the term is “If you can’t feed ’em, don’t breed ’em”.
Nailed it.
You have identified the reason, there will be no Japan, Germany, France, England… following this? You do not play God, if He can create life He can sustain it.
And if you can’t wed them, don’t bed them.
I think that “they” for him are the non-white peoples of the world but he dare not say it for fear of being called racist. He may not be aware that world population growth is slowing down and more than 70 countries have birth rates at the replacement level or far below. Countries like China are now concerned about impending dramatic drops in their working age populations. Japan is another.
In Russia they give an extra financial reward for mothers who have more then two children. The so-called “mother’s capital” is a $3,000 payment which doesn’t sound like much but goes a lot further in Russia then in the developed world.
Well, Hell. I will say it then: Latin America is breeding out of control. They are destroying their countries and then attempting to move here (USA). Considering I am a BROWN skinned Latino, am *I* racist for saying the truth?
The world is overpopulated. The population should be shrinking however it is not. Just increasing at a slower rate. The world cannot sustain itself for a long period at it’s current population. Clean water is becoming scarcer, oil will be gone in 70 years all minerals are finite, gold, silver, lead, copper, etc etc. The mass migrations prove there are just too many people in the world. Nothing lasts forever. We are way overdue for a population reduction. About the only populations that were reducing were the whites. And mostly due to economic reasons. Children are just plain expensive if you give them good food, shelter, education and healthcare.
Don’t start race baiting!
There is “”STILL”” 7.2 billion people on the planet.
..and growing.
China has an imbalance of male/female due to their 1 child policy. This goes back to the husband being expected to care for his own family, his parents in there old age and her parents in their old age.
There were articles about massive female killoffs, both in uetro and immediately after birth.
There are now apprx. 33 million more Chinese men than women. That could mean there may be generations of life long virgin males before the imbalance can be corrected.
China rescinded its one child policy this year.
Japan…….they just don’t do sex much.
Yep, the Japanese hierarchy need to tell their late-teens, and 20-40’s to start getting jiggity :-)
Mike, we are not runing out of resources. Read this just to start…
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2017/04/20/unlimiting-growth/
Ignorant breeders
“”SELFISH brain dead breeders””
Holding hands and making “”EVERYONE”” around them their economic slaves.
I would assume he means people who are having a hard time feeding themselves, much less new babies.
I take it ” they” refers to the ubiquitous “they” being anyone without the means to feed themselves let alone a child. He said the poor, so he possibly could have bent referring to people living in poverty, that ” they”. That can mean anyone who lives below, sometimes mutual times below the poverty level.
Not some nefarious use of the word they, as to wit I take you query was an inference to…..
Really Daniel you don’t know who they are?
“They” are most likely the people who refuse to use birth control and believe that sex with a virgin can cure AIDS, or the people who keep having child after child after child after child in an environment where a honey badger would starve.
Probably most of the continent of Africa would be a good place to start finding “they”.
Assume he means cows, chicken and hogs…
Another global warming believer who would sell out their country for others so they can’t have… Children ??
Perhaps China is the model country yu would be happy living in
I sure would like to see this list of scientist (99.9%) who agree with GW. I have searched for it many times and can not find it.
AZ1971, do YOU own the corn, soy, beef, chicken and pork inventories? Pretty sure that they’re mostly private property, so I don’t think they’re yours to “gladly” give away.
Of course, a certain portion of our society subscribes to the “what’s mine is mine, what’s yours is mine” philosophy of the left, so this Obamaesque attitude isn’t surprising.
Generous to a fault, you might say.
:)
Our country pays farmers to destroy and not grow crops I don’t know about you but I feel that belongs to the collective “we”. That being said I’d rather teach them to fish then give them fish. It’s far easier to build a safe sustainable future if your not starving to death. Before you imagine I’m some sort of leftist you’d be wrong I’m a “taxation is theft” guy but if I’m going to be taxed I prefer it to do some good.
You teach them to fish, Ulysses, and I will sell them a fishing boat.
No, you own what you have earned or produced. You don’t have any right to what others produce or earn.
You need to get up to speed, we, meaning the corn/soybean producers, do not destroy any crops. Good idea to get your facts correct before you develop a false opinion.
No, we do pay farmers to keep a portion of their land uncultivated, but that is to prevent erosion, provide cover for native fauna, etc… things you libs begged for in the ’70’s.
As a grain farmer I would like know what crop I can be paid to not grow or destroy. As far as I know, any paid set aside program ended at least 20 years ago. There are some support payments such as some help with crop insurance premiums, but nothing directly connected with individual production.
Remember that 40% of ”ALL” food grown in this country is turned into ethanol, which increases air pollution by 5 to 7% and no telling how much of the rivers and oceans it creates ‘Dead Zones’ from nitrites. Turning 40% of the US food production into Ethanol is the number one reason for the increase in food costs since 2005.
It is also a very big reason for illegal immigration of Hispanic’s from Mexico to the US.
People like Soros ,Al Gore switched their basic staple corn for food to corn for ethanol.
Again, Liberals holding hands and starving the world to death one gas tank at a time.
I think you need to learn to turn off your propaganda machine, Youlyssesw.
Maybe look and see when the last time Wickard vs Filburn was invoked, eh?
Amen brother
Global warming is BS, same ideology that said in the 15 century the world was flat. GW is a hoax so the taxes can be increased. If this is true why is Al Gore flying is own private jet and lives in a 15,000 sq/ft house something’s wrong with this picture.
When he starts worrying, I will start to worry. Until then, BS.
If one takes the time to look, all the planets are heating up.
Global warming is accepted by 99.9 of the climate “experts” around the world. You truly don’t keep up with the “intellectual” news sources do you?
You must be one of those low information, lowIQ, low education, blue collar “white trash” Trump supporters hmm? The world news is having a field day describing Trump supporters like that, barely hiding the fact that they don’t outright say “white trash” LOL
Do you bow down and pray to Limbaugh, Hannity, and Glenn Beck each night? Laughable idiot.
I’m also sure you’re happy that Trump has already appointed a self-described White supremacist, racist, homophobic bigot like Stephen Bannon right? The US is the laughing stock of the world because of narrow minded, , afraid of change, living decades in the past, Conservatives.
Global warming is accepted by 99.9 of the climate “experts” around the world. You truly don’t keep up with the “intellectual” news sources do you?
You must be one of those low information, low IQ, low education, blue collar “white trash” Trump supporters hmm? The world news is having a field day describing Trump supporters like that, barely hiding the fact that they don’t outright say “white trash” LOL
Do you bow down and pray to Limbaugh, Hannity, and Glenn Beck each night? Laughable idiot.
I’m also sure you’re happy that Trump has already appointed a self-described White supremacist, racist, homophobic bigot like Stephen Bannon right? The US is the laughing stock of the world because of narrow minded, , afraid of change, living decades in the past, Conservatives.
“Ideology in the 15 [sic] century” did not say that the earth was flat. You’re repeating a slander made up by Washington Irving in the 1820s.
” The US is the laughing stock of the world because of narrow minded”
Yep.. Obama has done a great job of making it that way.
Stick to your group think.. its the only way you can muster half a brain.
The US is the laughing stock of the world …
No true…they are all scared shitless right now
How do you say Jamestown?
Perfectly stated. Cheers.
Maybe they could just burn all the extra babies for heat.
Surely this is a sign of impending worldwide famine and extinction. What says the IPCC? Oh. They’re looking for new jobs? OK.
In historical cooling events, Mother Nature takes care of over population from all sectors of economy. People stay in doors. The stay close. They try to warm houses. As a result bacteria reproduce rapidly- virus also reproduce – but they are not alive- nor are they dead.
Fact is our largest plague events occur during “little ice age” type events. Additionally global cooling and little ICe Age Events shift monsoon patterns- so Phoenix and Tucson will see less than 1/2 normal rain per year as temp decreases. the Monsoon does not fire up and winters are dry in the SW. So we will have rainfall issues here – not that we depend on rain for anygiven year- storage helps with that, but a multiyear drought in the Salt and Gila river valley’s as well as Colorado River drought will be devastating to the SW USA. Other areas that rely on Monsoon patterns as well will likely suffer.
Fact, with more co2 in the air, farm crops need and use a lot less water to produce crops. “”FACT””!!! Many places now have more growing seasons due to the fact of the planet warming. Places like Arkansas now have as many as three growing season, instead of having just one or two.
As far a water droughts go, corn is a very intensive user of water. Many other types of food use a lot less water
1st. The world is not warming. 2nd. will some one please tell me where this list showing 99.9% of scientist agree with GW. 3rd humans live on less that 5% of the earth, the worst that can happen from increased heat would lower it to 4%. This would lower the carrying capacity not eliminate it.
I take it you are talking about the Muslims…
Imam tells Muslim migrants to ‘breed children’ with Europeans to ‘conquer their countries’
Muslims will breed irrespective of their economic circumstances. Their only goal is to overwhelm the Khafir thru sheer numbers. When the Khafir aid this with welfare payments it is even worse. https://www.politicalislam.com/the-four-jihads/
For example:
This would not include children by slaves. (Saudi Arabia only recently ‘outlawed’ slavery.)
You can check the Total Fertility rate, keeping in mind that s per WOMAN not per family. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html
Poverty + Islam seems to equal a heck of a lot of births.
Top rank (above 5 kids)
Niger — 95% muslim
Burundi — 10% muslim
Mali — 90% muslim
Somalis — 100% muslim
Uganda — 35% muslim
Burkina Faso — 60.5% muslim
Zambia — 15% muslim
Malawi — ~36% muslim
Angola — 2.5 % – Not recognized as religion
Afghanistan — 100% muslim
South Sudan — ~20 % muslim
Mozambique — ~20% muslim
Nigeria — 70% muslim
Ethiopia — 50% muslim
Wiki underestimates, often by a lot. I used
(wwwDOT)muslimpopulation.com/africa/
53.04 % muslim in Africa
The Muslim Population is increasing at 1.84% world wide
(wwwDOT)muslimpopulation.com/World/
Crops are at record levels because CO2 is so high. Of course trying to explain the benefits of higher CO2 to a liberal is a waste of mental resources.
Hey, I have a solution for world overpopulation … everyone who thinks the world is overpopulated should live up to their convictions and off themselves. Once they are all gone, then the overpopulation problem goes away!
It is not possible to product beyond capacity unless your capacity is not your capacity. By definition, capacity is the amount you cannot produce beyond.
If the Frakkin government would stop interfering with the Free Market by using price supports, using grain alcohol for furl and subsidies there wouldn’t be a “capacity” problem and farmers would always profit.
Soy? Sure if you like GMO poison. Same, same for beef, chicken and pork fed on GMO grain.
http://www.pop.org
Population explosion is the next large scale myth that needs to be undermined.
If Wiki is correct, world population should peak about 2040 and then recede. Demographics will change, however, as Muslims tend to have very large families.
Is it yours to “gladly exchange?”
Obama did say “Under my plan your electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket”. So Mr. O will make sure people freeze to death.
I hate cold. What was wrong with global warming?
Nothing.
remember he and his first energy secretary wanted gas prices to go to 8 dollars + a gallon he and is now and forever a piece of shit just looking at him proves that
Wood for trees – the data set linked to by the article, does not produce the graphic depicted in the article. Further, it does not show the decline shown in the graphic. Further there is no land only data set for RSS at Wood For Trees.
Finally, TLT means Total Lower Troposphere, and is an average temperature taken over the lower 10,000 feet of the atmosphere averaging an altitude of about a mile.
This is not the Earth’s surface temperature, which is measured at the earth’s surface, not high in the atmosphere.
You continue to be a moronic idiot.
There is land only RSS data in WFT
Anyone with even a basic level of competence could reproduce that graph using that data.
But you LACK that basic level of competence, because you are a moronic idiot.
Did you even look at the graph and the data source? This is an excerpt from the header of the RSS data file:
#Data processed by http://www.woodfortrees.org
#Please check original source for first-hand data and information:
#
#—————————————————-
#Data from Remote Sensing Systems
#http://www.ssmi.com/msu/msu_data_description.html
#—————————————————-
Let’s take a look at that webpage. Here’s the Introduction:
> The term “upper air” refers to the part of the atmosphere well above Earth’s surface. The temperature of the atmosphere in this region is a fundamental climate variable. Recent changes in atmospheric temperature have been attributed to human-induced climate change. Continued monitoring of atmospheric temperature is critical to advancing our understanding of the sensitivity of Earth’s climate to changing atmospheric composition.
Before we go any further, take a moment to bask in the irony here. The author downloaded and modified data that shows a positive trend in the Earth’s temperature, from a source that attributes that trend to human behavior, and posted it on a website that denies human involvement in climate change. And you ate it up.
The vertical axis on the graph is looking at eight month changes in the data samples. This is a crappy attempt at a running derivative – the window was clearly chosen because it happened to produce a graph that fit the author’s narrative, and not because of any contextual significance.
Open up the actual data file and scroll down to the bottom – you’ll clearly see that almost all of the data samples in the last 15 years show a positive change in temperature. It is not only deceptive, but downright incorrect, to say that this data shows that the temperature of the earth has been increasing.
Despite bleeding irony, I’d like to see your attempt at reproducing that graph in Excel, though, since anyone who isn’t a moronic idiot can do it. Data is right here: http://www.woodfortrees.org/data/rss-land/. Good luck :)
And you call someone else an idiot…
You are talking to Vendickhead.. right?
The graph as described is TOTALLY CORRECT and EASILY reproduced.
It clearly shows the recent HUGE eight month drop in temperatures.. GET OVER IT !!
“from a source that attributes that trend to human behaviour”
You have serious comprehension problems.
Read what it says again.. or continue to display your abject ignorance
Anyone commenting here about the “myth” of global warming is simply uninformed. The preponderance of evidence to support it rivals that which supports the Theory of Evolution. Across many years, glaciers have been melting and sea levels rising. One year of cooler temperatures means nothing.
Andy G25 says you’re a “moronic idiot”. Are you?
I blame global warming
Well, do you wring one hand when there are signs of global warming and the other hand when there are signs of global cooling? My take on the story is the confusion over the issue of global climate change. Always has and always will be change. I love it when some group points to a receding glacier and the dire consequences that await, a receding glacier that reveals ancient farmland, farmland that was obviously glacier free ages ago to begin with. I guess the people didn’t have an Al Gore back then to save them. Relax everyone and stop making so many babies if you’re that worried about the problem.
Not only the poor, but ALL humans.
When temps drop like this, FOOD will become scarce.
Starvation is in the future if it continues.
Liberals will pay for decreased coal production and coal plant shutdowns, one way or another.
The longer view is Ice, not Fire
Over the last 2 Million years, Ice has been the normal broken by brief periods of Warmer Weather.
to know more YouTube …Adapt 2030
But good news for the taxpayers….no more bankrupt global warming scams.
There could be blackouts in the UK and Europe with the combination of this and the stupid commitment made to renewables over there.
NYT just won’t quit…
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-u6mN2WjBmhg/WCTiA8vt1AI/AAAAAAAAn4A/CC8l13Y_zlE_HKtl7cISgFb3bBQA42rdgCLcB/s1600/Trump%2Bforces%2Bblack%2Bfamily.jpg
Try this one:
Climate change is real: Just ask the Pentagon
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-military-climate-change-20161103-story.html
Not only a pile of bs – it’s so poorly written.
Back in 2004 the Pentagon warned President Bush that we would see cataclysmic impacts of abrupt global warming by 2020, including…
‘major European cities sunk beneath rising seas’
‘Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate’
‘Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.’
‘Disruption and conflict will be endemic features of life’
‘Once again, warfare would define human life.’
‘the planet brought to the edge of anarchy’
‘dwindling food, water and energy supplies’
‘widespread flooding by a rise in sea levels will create major upheaval for millions’
That was 12 years ago now. We’re only 4 years out, does anyone still believe that ThunderDome version of the future is right around the corner?
We are all headed to Barter Town.
Of course, climate change is real. But it began over 4 billion years ago. They fail to mention that.
yes climate change is good, and we are currently below the 3000 year temperature average. do some research. the global warming crowd is basing their argument on the last 200-250 years.
Latitude … I do hope you realize that that’s a spoof headline. It’s a joke making the rounds in emails.
I hope you realize I’m not a moron…..LOL
Why does this billionaire insist on moving into a federally-subsidized public housing facility currently occupied by an African-American family? Does he have no decency and compassion?
He is an illegal immigrant, Trump is just following the law.
Hahaha! “Forced them out” will be the story!!
That’s shocking I tell you!!! Downright deplorable!!! I hear the only breadwinner will be out of a job shortly after New Years. My goodness, does this billionaire have no shame? How did such a sad situation come to pass? Was there another woman involved? I hear there are some job openings at the DNC.
He is going to have to count the silver, fumigate the place and bring in Pest Control to get rid of the R.A.T.s
I hear he’s going to stay at Trump Tower and commute…
.something to do with cooties
Is there comparable UAH data, for corroboration ? Roy Spencer’s site show the graph for global temperatures, and the data points are NH, SH and the globe (obviously all include ocean temperature data), and the decline is not nearly as precipitous.
Thanks.
Note that this is the land temperature, and it is an important metric because that’s where we live (unless you live in a Yellow Submarine :) ). Global land+ocean will be different.
I believe I pointed that out.
But thank you anyway, for stating the obvious.
The oceans are a huge heat sink and change temperature slowly. Just ask anyone living near the Great Lakes. Land temps change faster.
Thank you too Gail, for again stating the obvious.
As I pointed out in my post, Roy’s website presents the data WHICH INCLUDES ocean data. I was asking if UAH also has data which EXCLUDES ocean data like in the RSS graph in the article.
AndyG55 graciously generated the graph I was seeking in his reply below. At least he reads, and understands what he reads, when he read my post.
GW, I can’t guarantee I’ve used exactly the same method as TH,
But here is what I get for UAH
Pretty similar.
Just to clarify,
Yes that is UAH land only
Can be obtained from here , usually a week or 2 after the initial values are posted.
http://www.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0beta/tlt/
Third bottom file.
Thank you Andy. That’s exactly what I was wondering about !
Why does it look so different when I graph the data?
It looks that way because you made mistakes.
Because its not graphing the same thing.
And sorry, I don’t intend to act as your teacher.
If you draw it as described, it is easy to reproduce TH’s graph
Updated back to 1980 (TH’s original only went back to 1995)
And UAH back to 1980
Hint: Look at the title of Tony’s graph.
I’ve tried to give them the hint.
But that’s all I intend to do. :-)
Stop screwing around and produce a link to interactive woodfortrees.com that reproduces the graph so it can be verified.
http://woodfortrees.org/plot/rss
Poor little twerp.
Get the data yourself and figure it out.
OR NOT !
@ dave1billion..
It really is funny watching these incompetent twerps squirming about in ignorance.
A great post from TH. ! :-)
I initially got their graph too. After two false starts I was finally able to reproduce the graph. Exactly reproduce it.
And I was using Excel.
I had to use my poor noggin to sort it out, so I’m going to let them work it out for themselves.
My graphs are obviously Excel.
Pretty simple. :-)
Tony, I hope u have submitted your resume to the Trump transition team. It is imperative that those people see and hear, first-hand, the precise and true nature of the data falsification that has taken place the past two decades. No one besides you appears to recognize or acknowledge its existence.
The incoming administration must be properly educated before policy begins to be shaped, and especially before Trump even thinks about altogether reneging or softening his promises to stop the payments to the UN climate fund and dump the Paris climate treaty. Nothing short of full American withdrawal from the UNFCCC should be considered acceptable. And the rest of the world and the local watermelons will be applying immense pressure to get some concessions in his position.
He must be educated, as stated above, and then the administration must present the evidence (I mean PROOF) of this deception to the American people. Popular support of the majority is absolutely necessary to bring to bear political pressure on the Congress – to turn the Watermelonons in Congress from Crusaders into Public Fools. Needless to say, the watermelons and other radicals and useful idiots can never be reasoned with or educated, but the ignorant masses who simply believe what they’ve heard can be educated; they simply need to be SHOWN the truth – from a credible source.
Give us some assurance, Tony, that you’re working on this with them. (If not yet, you damn well ought to be!)
You can submit ideas to the Trump administration on this website.
https://www.greatagain.gov/
Don’t know how effective it would be, but worth a shot.
I already submitted mine … to rein in the global warming juggernaut, and gave a couple reasons.
I put mine in, too – Tort Reform.
Where does all of those billions of dollars go? How does throwing money at a corrupt institution help anything? What caused the many ice ages and warming periods of the past? Why cant they make a model that actually works? Everyone believes in climate change. Not everyone believes man is causing it.
Apparently much of Russia is FIFTY degrees below normal right now. That’s insane.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/02/04/warmest-january-in-satellite-record-leads-off-2016/#comment-2137934
Where I said
“The sun caused global warming post-1980 during the end of the modern maximum in solar activity.
I’ll repeat the same prediction I made last year: 2016 will not be a record year as inevitably lower TSI in 2016 will not support record high temps like higher TSI did in 2014-15.
OHC is now being exhausted at the same time solar activity is now becoming low enough for insufficient ocean warming, and therefore we will cool overall until solar activity picks up again, in the early 2020s.
Conclusions are based on my solar supersensitivity-accumulation model.”
I was referring to sea surface temperatures. That the land temps are also dropping so fast is icing on the cake.
Bob, there is still some small remnants of the North Atlantic blob and the El Nino floating about in the Arctic. Diminishing slower than expected.
It will be touch and go as to if RSS and UAH have 2016 warmest or not.
But once that heat is gone.. there doesn’t appear to be much replacement heat coming from anywhere.
TSI monthlies dropped sharply Feb to April, then essentially flattened out with small changes, and equatorial OHC followed, continuing the drop from the solar cycle TSI max in early 2015, and the CDAS global SST has stayed around 0.4 for some time this year until very recently when it took a nosedive.
2016, 1au TSI
Jan, 1361.2892
Feb, 1361.3051
Mar , 1361.1865
Apr, 1360.8698
May, 1360.9628
Jun, 1361.0310
Jul, 1360.9488
Aug, 1360.9525
Sep, 1360.9440
Oct, 1360.8984
Nov, 1360.9967
http://lasp.colorado.edu/data/sorce/tsi_data/daily/sorce_tsi_L3_c24h_latest.txt 2016
Remember that nice warm-up recently in the US? Early Nov TSI is higher. Solar supersensitivity is that simple.
My solar-flux-TSI-SST warming/cooling threshold works. We passed through the 1361.25 threshold on a daily basis in mid-March this year.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_update/heat-last-year.gif
http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2016/anomnight.11.10.2016.gif
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/ocean/global.png
http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2016/anomnight.11.10.2016.gif
The sun causes warming, cooling, and extreme events, not CO2!
Oops, this one is supposed to be last on my list:
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ocean/weeklyenso_clim_81-10/wkteq2_anm_55m.gif
Jack Striker (above) posted what I was going to comment on. Colder than a Witch’s T in Eastern Siberia for the last 2 weeks. And Arctic jet pattern wave that set that up in Siberia will settle on North America by late December.
But to add, when that cold wave in the NH reaches the Western Hemisphere,…. it is going to be one nasty cold winter Jan-Feb in Canada and the Northern US.
Something has been “adjusted”
ftp://ftp.ssmi.com/msu/graphics/tlt/plots/rss_ts_channel_tlt_global_land_and_sea_v03_3.png
Moron alert
chuckle..
Don’t be too harsh TH,
The guy is obviously clueless.
Thing is though.. clueless people should basically STFU,
or else prove themselves clueless.
Tony (not TH)
Ask questions if you don’t understand.
You will learn much more that way .
Pointless bluster does not help your cause.
Nor do insults. Yes moron and clueless are insults and do not help your cause. The only thing worse than being a know-it-all is being an arrogant know-it-all. Worst of all you tell him to ask questions and also tell him STFU.
Diddums. Cry me a river .
El Nino over.
Trump – as far as a clean environment, need to clean GISS and NOAA and EPA of propagandists and propaganda war budget, plus the army of others in gov pushing baseless nonscientific crap on nonextent global warming caused by the green (i.e.more plants) trace gas CO2 and anthropomorphic emissions.
Aside, China’s recent warning of US backing out of climate deal, they would prefer us or US destroying economy with higher energy prices and wasted gov directed and regulated resource use while they sell us solar panels. It is all about politics, let us return to science and end the propaganda.
End of el Nino was my first thought too. (Is there another possible meteorological reason?)
Have said for several years the GW scam can only be seriously challenged by a politician with NO previous connections to existing policies, thus avoiding charges of hypocrisy or u-turning. Trump is untainted by the stupidity so can speak some brutal home truths and follow up with complete reform AND the necessary inquiries. People and organisations should be held to account.
Has anyone been able to quantify the effect of having an extra five billion people on the Earth walking around at 98.6 degrees and exhaling CO2?
As opposed to greater populations of wildlife?
do you actually think that we have greater density of living organisms now? Or is it possible that those 5 billion people displaced a lot of non-humans.
Bottom line – the earth is a planet full of living organisms.
I love all my brothers and sisters on the anti AGW side. But did you ever think its cooling this much BECAUSE IT WAS SO WARM BEFORE? look at this graphic, created in mid 2015
scroll down in the article to graphic 2. Notice the forecast for the warmth and then the cooling
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/38793
Now look here to see what is going on in the bigger picture against the actual 90 day trailing mean. Its cooler, because it was so warm.. but its still well above normal
http://models.weatherbell.com/climate/cfsr_t2m_2005.png
In fact November is right now ranked number 1 in the 35 year mean !
http://models.weatherbell.com/climate/ncep_cfsr_t2m_anom.png
I doubt it finishes there but top 5 as October was, certainly. Where you do have a point and why I made the forecast in 15 is the tropical oceans. ( red line http://models.weatherbell.com/climate/cdas_v2_tropics_2014.png. ) they are near normal for the first time in a couple of years and that is what you should be looking at as the earth will go the way of the main source region for the planetary climate.
BTW I outlined all this, the abnormal warmth in the polar regions in their cold seasons and why its a deceptive metric ( mixing ratios are much better to determine where the climate is going, water vapor in grams/kg) and why the warming over the poles may lead to less, not more extreme weather, here. https://patriotpost.us/opinion/43756
It is very warm right now. A team that was 0-12 going to 3-9 has made infinite improvement. But its still a losing team. The rapid drop is because it was so warm to start with. And it was predictable. By itself its nothing to write home about. In the big picture, it means nature is in control and that the warm time now is nothing new under the sun. Peace
In the end all the back and forths have changed little
The most recent
It was warmer in the 1930s than since this global warming crap started.
“But did you ever think its cooling this much BECAUSE IT WAS SO WARM BEFORE? ”
It’s cooling this much from lower TSI because TSI was higher before, 2014-15.
Same principle.
Remember the La Nina in 1955? Low solar.
David Stockwell in his paper on solar supersensitivity discussed a roughly 2-3 year lag in temps from solar activity. I empirically found this to be true.
I’ve also confirmed David Evans’ notch delay forecast for cooling in 2017.
Love your work at Weatherbell, Joe – I’m thinking about subscribing.
oh please…when did we all lose our grip
SO WARM……you wouldn’t even notice if someone didn’t rub your face in it
The main part of the planet that fed towards the warm spike of late 2015 – early 2016 was the large anomaly over northern Europe during their winter. !
Hi Joe..
Yes, TH is yanking the alarmista chain.
Why not, Its fun ! :-)
You guys all seem very intelligent, and sound like you have it all figured out. I hope you guys make it to a position that can actually make a difference in this world. Talking to you, Joe, Bob, and Andy.
Once we can get rid of this AGW scam, and start to re-direct what is left of the world’s funds to actual real problems, that will be a good start. !
When I hear the same old crap about ” 98% of all scientists say it’s real”…….. I say, okay, fantastic …. give me the list of scientists…. all of their names, where they were educated, who they work for…. do they get government grants from any country and does their livelihoods depend on it for a pay check……. what is their accuracy rate….. are they using actual data or mere computer models and then who writes the algorithms ????? You will hear crickets !!!
Bingo!
They came up with that number by polling scientists. You know, the same
Polls that predicted the Hillary victory. Oh wait a minute…
The earth’s orbit is elliptical and every 11,500 years, the earth is further away from the sun. Read Not By Fire, But By Ice written by a real scientist.
But, but,…obama and kerry insist that man is causing global warming…
It seems as if some are actually blaming the “Earth” for discriminating against poor people, because the Earth is cooling? We humans are nothing but fleas to the Planet Earth, and the Earth will purge us again as it has in the past.
To think that WE are in control of the Earth and all it’s glory and failings is quite arrogant isn’t it?
Which is why the breeders should be the people that care enough to be the good stewards of the planet. Note that “steward” here is in the old sense, where it implies ownership, management, and use of the planet, not this new “we have to make everyone else go live in caves” attitude of modern Globalwarmers.
But are the GW’s having kids? Nope. Are Alt-westers? Yep. Keep it up and we’ll breed the warmers out, given the elimination of warmer propaganda from schools.
Our climate is influenced by our Sun, more than anything else. Actually, our climate is totally controlled by the Sun. We have been at a historically low sunspot activity. If anything, we should brace for a mini (and maybe not so mini) ice age.
This correlates directly with the drop in solar activity. The fact that an enormous nearby thermonuclear explosion 50 times larger than Jupiter is never considered as a factor influencing “climate change” reveals the fact that climate change is merely a political agenda by leftist “scientists.”
Human caused climate change is merely a political agenda.
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“We call that Winter Time.” Otherwise;
GEO-spacecraft (GOES) can only Lattitude-limited information.
LEO-Polar spacecraft can get all the Atmosphere-thru-surface data.
Missing data: the CAPACITIY of the Ice caps, and other features.
Well, that just can’t be. Every month in 2016 has been the hottest on record.
Yeah, I read it on the intarwebs.
As any common sense, objective, knowledgable person has said for years. You better hope it is global warming because the loss of even a month of growing season from global cooling in the middle latitudes will lead to incredible famine. Global warming produces bounty. Global cooling will produce death.
I’m sorry to have to tell everyone this, but there are no such things as satellites.
This is selective reporting to give an inaccurate picture. Notice that this article says that these are temperatures over land. So this doesn’t tell us whether the earth as a whole is warming or cooling. It is only looking at air temperatures over land. It is not looking at air temperature over the oceans or the water temperatures. We know that one of teh reasons that air temperatures have not been rising as much in recent years is that a lot of the heat has been absorbed into the oceans. When all the data is considered, the trend is still warming. 11 of the last 12 months have set warming records.
http://climate.nasa.gov/news/2503/september-was-warmest-on-record-by-narrow-margin/
The sea temperatures are not rising and all of this “climate change” panic pushing is faculty lounge, armchair science ignoring the fact that adding CO2 to the atmosphere reduces air’s IR capture by driving water vapor out and it is seven times better at capturing IR, molecule for molecule, than CO2.
All of this nonsense has been a full-employment program for corrupt Ph.D.s that would not have jobs without it. It has long been a sellout of science for money more worthy of alchemy than modern science.
Google “Two Minute Conservative” for more.
“This is selective reporting to give an inaccurate picture.”
roflmao.. well that has NEVER happened in “climate science ™” before, has it ! :-)
And no, the picture is NOT inaccurate,
It portray exactly what TH says it portrays.
“When all the data is considered, the trend is still warming. 11 of the last 12 months have set warming records.”
And there is that childish reliance on the NON-CO2 El Nino effect, yet again.
DOH !!!
If carbon dioxide made the earth significantly warmer, we would never get out of a natural heating cycle because the warmer the earth gets, the more CO2 our oceans release. If climate change theology was fact instead of fiction, all life on earth would have been destroyed by heat millions of years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO1ukCq9vlw
Years ago I read an article where it quoted a Russian scientists who said it was not global warming, but a cooling of the earth that was coming.
All of this “global warming,” “climate change” panic is baloney. The facts are very simple:
CO2 is a “trace gas” in air and is insignificant by definition. It would have to be increased by a factor of 2500 to be considered “significant” or “notable.” To give it the great power claimed is a crime against physical science.
CO2 absorbs 1/7th as much IR, heat energy, from sunlight per molecule as water vapor which has 188 times as many molecules capturing 1200 times as much heat producing 99.9% of all “global warming.” CO2 does only 0.1% of it. Pushing panic about any effect CO2 could have is clearly a fraud.
There is no “greenhouse effect” in an atmosphere. A greenhouse has a solid, clear cover trapping heat. The atmosphere does not trap heat as gas molecules cannot form surfaces to work as greenhouses that admit and reflect energy depending on sun angle. Gases do not form surfaces as their molecules are not in contact.
The Medieval Warming from 800 AD to 1300 AD Micheal Mann erased for his “hockey stick” was several Fahrenheit degrees warmer than anything “global warmers” fear. It was 500 years of world peace and abundance, longest ever.
Vostock Ice Core data analysis show CO2 rises followed temperature by 800 years 19 times in 450,000 years. Therefore temperature change is cause and CO2 change is effect. This alone refutes the anthropogenic global warming hypothesis.
Methane is called “a greenhouse gas 20 to 500 times more potent than CO2,” by Heidi Cullen and Jim Hansen, but it is not per the energy absorption chart at the American Meteorological Society. It has an absorption profile very similar to nitrogen which is classified “transparent” to IR, heat waves and is only present to 18 ppm. “Vegans” blame methane in cow flatulence for global warming in their war against meat consumption.
Carbon combustion generates 80% of our energy. Control and taxing of carbon would give the elected ruling class more power and money than anything since the Magna Carta of 1215 AD.
Most scientists and science educators work for tax supported institutions. They are eager to help government raise more money for them and they love being seen as “saving the planet.”
Read the whole story in “Vapor Tiger” at Amazon.com, Kindle $2.99 including a free Kindle reading program for your computer. We have an inexpensive demo-experiment that proves CO2 increases have no effect on IR heat giant until 10,000 ppm and they cool the atmosphere by driving water vapor out!
Google “Two Minute Conservative” for more.
It “could be” and it “might be.” wow that’s really helpful
The number one factor influencing our weather is the sun.
Study the solar cycles and see how they correlate to temperatures in cycles here on earth. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/12/winter-is-coming-warns-the-solar-physicist-the-alarmists-tried-to-silence/
The GLOBAL WARMING TOOTH FAIRY is on vacation in Maui. Business as usual will follow.
I do not understand why eight months would be a period used for comparison of temperatures. Unless eight is simply the number of months which, at this time, most dramatizes a point you want to make. But please correct me: Does the eight-month period find regular employment in climatology?
Front page Drudge right now…..
Despite an obvious error in the graph!!
There is nothing wrong with the graph
The graph is totally accurate from the data.
It portrays exactly the data that TH has said it does.
The UAH equivalent is very similar.
That warming scare paper is pure fraud, following in the footsteps of alarmist sneer-monkey Richard Alley, who looked at the tiny size of past CO2 changes that he was trying to use as an explanation for paleo temperature history (Alley studied ice cores), and instead of drawing the logical implication–that CO2 CANNOT have been “the biggest control knob”–he claimed the opposite: that the tiny temperature forcing effect of CO2, together with the ASSUMPTION that past temperature change WAS driven by CO2, implies that the tiny forcing effect must be getting multiplied up many times by water vapor feedback effects (“climate sensitivity”). The tinier the CO2 forcing effects the more they must be getting multiplied up if they are to account for observed warming, which similarly multiplies up the warming that Alley and others predicts will be caused today’s tiny CO2 forcing effects.
Yup, that is their trick. The smaller they estimate past CO2 forcings to have been the more potent they claim CO2 to be as a driver of global warming to be. This latest study apparently found that CO2 forcing effects are so tiny compared to the warming they are trying to explain by it that these tiny forcings would have to be multiplied up SEVEN TIMES by water vapor feedback effects, a level of climate sensitivity that is radically unstable, while paleo temperature history clearly shows global climate to actually be wuite stable.
The real implication of their findings is that CO2 IS NOT THE EXPLANATION FOR PAST OR PRESENT CLIMATE CHANGE, not very much of it anyway, and not at any significant multiple of its very small tenperature forcing effect. The very data they are looking at shoots down their CO2 warming theory, but being a cadre of fraudulent political propagandists they claim the opposite.
Just remember, every time they claim high climate sensitivity what it really means is that the direct warming effect of CO2 is tiny compared to the climate change they are trying to attribute to it. The weaker their evidence the more alarmist their predictions. That is how they turn CO2 lemons into alarmist lemonade.
Did anyone look at the data sourced for this graph? http://www.woodfortrees.org/data/rss-land/from:1995 (link provided below the graph)
The data clearly doesn’t match the graph. According to the data table, the lowest temp value occurs at (1996.25, -0.227) and the most recent value is (2016.75, 0.12).
I graphed the data and applied a linear trendline. Turns out the data actually indicates that global temperatures are gradually increasing.
Moron alert
Until… you graph it from 1998, or 1930, or…
why does looking at the source data and graphing it myself make me a moron? did you bother to look at it?
yawn. !
Don’t blame others for your incompetence.
Perhaps because you did not read what Tony wrote?
Until… you graph it from 1998, or 1930, or…
I graphed the data cited as the source of the original graph. If you have more data for me I’d be happy to graph it for you. In the meantime I just wanted to point out that the graph doesn’t match the data it claims to be using.
You are the hero.
Figure it out yourself.. OR NOT !!
As I show below, the data is easily used to match TH’s graph, as described, exactly.
Hint: Look at the title of Tony’s graph.
the graph doesn’t match the data it claims to be using.
Riley…step back….deep breath…and read what Tony wrote one more time
Oh dear , another incompetent
Where do they come from
It is very easy to reproduce Tony’s graph.
Are you using a different data set than the one linked below the original graph?
There are no negative y-values after 2014 in the data set linked below the original graph.
#Data processed by http://www.woodfortrees.org
#Please check original source for first-hand data and information:
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#—————————————————-
#Data from Remote Sensing Systems
#http://www.ssmi.com/msu/msu_data_description.html
#—————————————————-
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#File: RSS_Monthly_MSU_AMSU_Channel_TLT_Anomalies_Land_v03_3.txt
#
#Time series (rss) from 1979 to 2016.83
1979 -0.305
1979.08 -0.218
1979.17 -0.038
1979.25 -0.415
1979.33 -0.309
1979.42 -0.277
1979.5 -0.142
1979.58 -0.247
1979.67 -0.023
1979.75 0.047
1979.83 0.141
1979.92 0.259
1980 -0.149
1980.08 0.181
1980.17 -0.183
1980.25 -0.028
1980.33 0.145
1980.42 0.027
1980.5 0.046
1980.58 0.026
1980.67 -0.013
1980.75 0.127
1980.83 0.056
1980.92 -0.023
1981 0.56
1981.08 0.205
1981.17 0.051
1981.25 0.374
1981.33 -0.017
1981.42 -0.04
1981.5 0.032
1981.58 0.082
1981.67 -0.026
1981.75 -0.171
1981.83 0.03
1981.92 0.263
1982 -0.401
1982.08 -0.293
1982.17 -0.526
1982.25 -0.183
1982.33 -0.25
1982.42 -0.407
1982.5 -0.296
1982.58 -0.285
1982.67 -0.091
1982.75 -0.373
1982.83 -0.312
1982.92 0.039
1983 0.297
1983.08 0.059
1983.17 0.188
1983.25 -0.027
1983.33 -0.058
1983.42 -0.257
1983.5 0.095
1983.58 0.154
1983.67 0.174
1983.75 -0.059
1983.83 0.281
1983.92 -0.3
1984 -0.366
1984.08 -0.273
1984.17 -0.235
1984.25 -0.392
1984.33 -0.036
1984.42 -0.231
1984.5 -0.308
1984.58 -0.253
1984.67 -0.69
1984.75 -0.336
1984.83 -0.397
1984.92 -0.969
1985 -0.226
1985.08 -0.395
1985.17 -0.371
1985.25 -0.339
1985.33 -0.245
1985.42 -0.331
1985.5 -0.528
1985.58 -0.231
1985.67 -0.165
1985.75 -0.369
1985.83 -0.207
1985.92 -0.159
1986 0.115
1986.08 -0.179
1986.17 -0.119
1986.25 0.016
1986.33 -0.096
1986.42 -0.179
1986.5 -0.37
1986.58 -0.331
1986.67 -0.302
1986.75 -0.36
1986.83 -0.322
1986.92 -0.209
1987 0.192
1987.08 0.385
1987.17 -0.279
1987.25 0.042
1987.33 -0.141
1987.42 -0.05
1987.5 0.04
1987.58 -0.1
1987.67 0.06
1987.75 0.092
1987.83 0.132
1987.92 0.44
1988 0.22
1988.08 -0.22
1988.17 0.201
1988.25 0.194
1988.33 0.179
1988.42 0.264
1988.5 0.359
1988.58 0.22
1988.67 0.471
1988.75 0.179
1988.83 -0.115
1988.92 -0.025
1989 -0.379
1989.08 -0.342
1989.17 -0.113
1989.25 -0.077
1989.33 -0.115
1989.42 -0.153
1989.5 -0.029
1989.58 -0.121
1989.67 0.08
1989.75 0.049
1989.83 -0.268
1989.92 -0.007
1990 -0.225
1990.08 -0.113
1990.17 0.636
1990.25 0.072
1990.33 0.074
1990.42 0.173
1990.5 -0.066
1990.58 -0.071
1990.67 -0.138
1990.75 0.133
1990.83 0.425
1990.92 0.219
1991 -0.043
1991.08 0.155
1991.17 0.2
1991.25 0.219
1991.33 0.179
1991.42 0.338
1991.5 0.219
1991.58 0.187
1991.67 0.105
1991.75 -0.007
1991.83 -0.006
1991.92 -0.254
1992 0.093
1992.08 -0.052
1992.17 0.045
1992.25 -0.27
1992.33 -0.338
1992.42 -0.323
1992.5 -0.525
1992.58 -0.459
1992.67 -0.598
1992.75 -0.3
1992.83 -0.327
1992.92 -0.17
1993 -0.109
1993.08 -0.165
1993.17 -0.18
1993.25 -0.347
1993.33 -0.13
1993.42 -0.138
1993.5 -0.069
1993.58 -0.224
1993.67 -0.493
1993.75 -0.173
1993.83 -0.401
1993.92 0.068
1994 -0.07
1994.08 -0.516
1994.17 0.024
1994.25 0.038
1994.33 0.122
1994.42 0.183
1994.5 0.11
1994.58 0.042
1994.67 0.251
1994.75 0.162
1994.83 0.367
1994.92 0.26
1995 0.467
1995.08 0.5
1995.17 0.135
1995.25 0.334
1995.33 0.133
1995.42 0.397
1995.5 0.238
1995.58 0.587
1995.67 0.421
1995.75 0.374
1995.83 0.47
1995.92 -0.169
1996 -0.152
1996.08 0.172
1996.17 -0.048
1996.25 -0.227
1996.33 0.134
1996.42 0.085
1996.5 0.182
1996.58 -0.008
1996.67 0.071
1996.75 0.075
1996.83 0.14
1996.92 0.048
1997 0.036
1997.08 0.066
1997.17 0.095
1997.25 0.05
1997.33 -0.107
1997.42 0.14
1997.5 0.167
1997.58 0.246
1997.67 0.317
1997.75 0.299
1997.83 0.164
1997.92 0.296
1998 0.445
1998.08 1.044
1998.17 0.516
1998.25 0.965
1998.33 0.876
1998.42 0.78
1998.5 0.845
1998.58 0.788
1998.67 0.588
1998.75 0.613
1998.83 0.149
1998.92 0.393
1999 0.416
1999.08 0.718
1999.17 0.003
1999.25 0.291
1999.33 0.282
1999.42 0.109
1999.5 0.28
1999.58 0.147
1999.67 0.367
1999.75 0.133
1999.83 0.109
1999.92 0.312
2000 -0.068
2000.08 0.297
2000.17 0.311
2000.25 0.652
2000.33 0.283
2000.42 0.198
2000.5 0.203
2000.58 0.171
2000.67 0.226
2000.75 0.014
2000.83 -0.089
2000.92 -0.063
2001 0.274
2001.08 -0.031
2001.17 0.431
2001.25 0.414
2001.33 0.574
2001.42 0.264
2001.5 0.357
2001.58 0.57
2001.67 0.24
2001.75 0.182
2001.83 0.436
2001.92 0.169
2002 0.51
2002.08 0.713
2002.17 0.549
2002.25 0.221
2002.33 0.359
2002.42 0.465
2002.5 0.598
2002.58 0.23
2002.67 0.31
2002.75 0.052
2002.83 0.361
2002.92 -0.046
2003 0.725
2003.08 0.268
2003.17 0.202
2003.25 0.313
2003.33 0.491
2003.42 0.183
2003.5 0.387
2003.58 0.394
2003.67 0.496
2003.75 0.579
2003.83 0.424
2003.92 0.683
2004 0.316
2004.08 0.661
2004.17 0.599
2004.25 0.24
2004.33 0.103
2004.42 0.03
2004.5 -0.105
2004.58 0.026
2004.67 0.163
2004.75 0.242
2004.83 0.389
2004.92 -0.028
2005 0.5
2005.08 0.248
2005.17 0.427
2005.25 0.776
2005.33 0.382
2005.42 0.422
2005.5 0.484
2005.58 0.372
2005.67 0.526
2005.75 0.612
2005.83 0.554
2005.92 0.344
2006 0.21
2006.08 0.393
2006.17 0.345
2006.25 0.268
2006.33 0.13
2006.42 0.387
2006.5 0.365
2006.58 0.339
2006.67 0.448
2006.75 0.362
2006.83 0.232
2006.92 0.451
2007 0.94
2007.08 0.43
2007.17 0.539
2007.25 0.585
2007.33 0.416
2007.42 0.315
2007.5 0.42
2007.58 0.47
2007.67 0.402
2007.75 0.325
2007.83 0.139
2007.92 0.036
2008 -0.213
2008.08 -0.116
2008.17 0.571
2008.25 0.189
2008.33 0.092
2008.42 0.193
2008.5 0.278
2008.58 0.222
2008.67 0.201
2008.75 0.449
2008.83 0.363
2008.92 0.049
2009 0.355
2009.08 0.364
2009.17 0.228
2009.25 0.292
2009.33 0.056
2009.42 0.041
2009.5 0.233
2009.58 0.339
2009.67 0.677
2009.75 0.139
2009.83 0.369
2009.92 0.099
2010 0.783
2010.08 0.635
2010.17 0.788
2010.25 0.686
2010.33 0.709
2010.42 0.628
2010.5 0.728
2010.58 0.727
2010.67 0.533
2010.75 0.382
2010.83 0.555
2010.92 0.337
2011 0.08
2011.08 -0.185
2011.17 0.019
2011.25 0.203
2011.33 0.186
2011.42 0.496
2011.5 0.516
2011.58 0.455
2011.67 0.449
2011.75 0.227
2011.83 0.02
2011.92 0.098
2012 -0.16
2012.08 -0.212
2012.17 0.052
2012.25 0.687
2012.33 0.601
2012.42 0.67
2012.5 0.522
2012.58 0.403
2012.67 0.562
2012.75 0.305
2012.83 0.332
2012.92 -0.147
2013 0.398
2013.08 0.154
2013.17 0.294
2013.25 0.139
2013.33 0.401
2013.42 0.468
2013.5 0.269
2013.58 0.274
2013.67 0.431
2013.75 0.303
2013.83 0.253
2013.92 0.067
2014 0.266
2014.08 -0.053
2014.17 0.252
2014.25 0.384
2014.33 0.445
2014.42 0.336
2014.5 0.336
2014.58 0.29
2014.67 0.246
2014.75 0.347
2014.83 0.047
2014.92 0.337
2015 0.469
2015.08 0.513
2015.17 0.481
2015.25 0.156
2015.33 0.443
2015.42 0.514
2015.5 0.361
2015.58 0.413
2015.67 0.4
2015.75 0.563
2015.83 0.551
2015.92 0.717
2016 0.805
2016.08 1.29
2016.17 1.213
2016.25 1.023
2016.33 0.654
2016.42 0.641
2016.5 0.663
2016.58 0.7
2016.67 0.735
2016.75 0.12
#Data ends
#Number of samples: 454
#Mean: 0.165487
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TH has now taken the graph back to 1980.
It is still totally correct as described using the data given
Poor Riley
Figure it out.. OR NOT… bozo.
What are the x and y values graphed as your last point? Visually, it looks to be approximately (2016, -1.2). However, the last few points in the source data are as follows:
2015.92 0.717
2016 0.805
2016.08 1.29
2016.17 1.213
2016.25 1.023
2016.33 0.654
2016.42 0.641
2016.5 0.663
2016.58 0.7
2016.67 0.735
2016.75 0.12
roflmao.
read the description of the original graph
THINK !!!
And the UAH equivalent
I see now that the following calculation is being performed on the source data:
x=time
y=temp
z=values graphed in OP’s graph
z(x)=y(x)-y(x-2/3)
The source data was unlabeled so it was not clear to me that a calculation was being performed. It’s unfortunate that you repeatedly chose to call me names instead of explaining how the calculation was performed. I wasn’t taking a political stance, I was just trying to understand the information being presented. Please correct me if I’m still missing something.
Sorry, but we are used to people coming in and saying “wrong graph” and we get a bit tired of it.
So if I came across as somewhat grumpy.. that’s life. I though you took an accusatory tone from the start, so reacted in kind.
I regularly check TH’s graphs from data, and I have yet to find a major error.
His graph is clearly marked as an 8 month difference. A very simple calculation.
I understand your frustration. I see that a lot of people in here are similarly confused by the data. It is indeed a simple calculation. I think this issue is that people (like me) didn’t realize a calculation was being performed. Tony’s graph is well-labeled, but the source data doesn’t have titles, so people assume the y-values should be the same as on Tony’s graph. Since so many people are confused, maybe you or Tony could use my explanation to make thing more clear.
I have a thick skin, so you can name-call if you want. I just wanted to point out that it doesn’t further your argument. Instead, it alienates people and makes it harder for anyone to reassess their preconceived notions in light of new data.
Riley.. if it alienates alarmista… I don’t really care. :-)
Maybe they should find a “safe space” !
From 2016 Riley noted:
“Riley says:
November 14, 2016 at 6:40 pm
What are the x and y values graphed as your last point? Visually, it looks to be approximately (2016, -1.2). However, the last few points in the source data are as follows:
2015.92 0.717
2016 0.805
2016.08 1.29
2016.17 1.213
2016.25 1.023
2016.33 0.654
2016.42 0.641
2016.5 0.663
2016.58 0.7
2016.67 0.735
2016.75 0.12”
On Easter, 2022, I copied the following data from woodfortrees:
2015.92 1.025
2016 1.108
2016.08 1.627
2016.17 1.526
2016.25 1.279
2016.33 0.848
2016.42 0.844
2016.5 0.877
2016.58 0.968
2016.67 1.037
2016.75 0.538
2016.83 0.674
2016.92 0.414
2017 0.808
The data has obviously been fiddled with to produce the desired change.
Data 2016 Data 2022
2016 0.805 2016 1.108
2016.08 – 1.29 2016.08 – 1.627
2016.17 – 1.213 2016.17 – 1.526
2016.25 – 1.023 2016.25 – 1.279
2016.33 – 0.654 2016.33 – 0.848
2016.42 – 0.641 2016.42 – 0.844
2016.5 – 0.663 2016.5 – 0.877
2016.58 – 0.7 2016.58 – 0.968
2016.67 – 0.735 2016.67 – 1.037
2016.75 – 0.12 2016.75 – 0.538
Riley’s data cuts off after 2016.75
Between what Riley posted in 2016 and what I copied and pasted today, Easter, 2022, every line of data has been changed, and was probably changed shortly after Tony C&P’d the data to produce the graph shown above. Anyone and everyone who has read the emails in the CRU leaked zip in 2009 and 2011 has read the HARRY_README.txt file and knows how the data has been manipulated to produce the “hockey stick”, even to the point of replacing all the thermometer readings from 1960 to 2000 with “synthetic” data, i.e., pulled out of thin air in order to make the temperature data conform to their hockey stick graph. As they say, if you torture the data long enough it will confess to anything.
And, you will notice that there are no data points showing a negative value.
Thank you GreyGeek! The data tampering continues unabated; the fiddlers keep fiddling and Rome keeps burning down.
The leftist’s holy grail has always been population control. By Any and all means. Global warming is just the latest avenue. Other people’s children, not theirs of course.
Once it’s clear that global cooling is the reality and that AGW was not only wrong but a redistributionist hoax, how does the left explain to the world’s people that they wrongly confiscated and spent trillions on this asinine and discredited theory?
Why do you think they changed the meme from GoreBull Warbling to Climate Change?
Now no matter what they are correct because the weather ALWAYS changes.
That change in terms tells you right off they were lying.
Some very good… and factual information here. Too bad the “millenials” can’take read well enough to understand it – but then they get all there news from Myley Cyrus anyway.
31,000 scientists have noted there is no evidence of man-made climate change – 31+ times the 900, or so, from the IPCC that preach the disproven theory they receive government funding to support, who totally ignore the sun’s cycles, which are the primary determinants of global temp cycles.
And the Pope and various government leaders conveniently ignore the real science, because it doesn’the support there political agenda of global wealth redistribution from the developed nations to the undeveloped nations.
It’s just that simple.
Of course temps are cooling. It is called a “moander minimum.” The climate has been changing for the past 4.5 billion years or so and will continue to change until the sun explodes and destroys this little blue marble.
I predict further cooling through the middle of February, with warming to begin by the first of March. This trend will continue well into the mid part of August, when cooling will again set in.
Well done TH.
You have pulled all the ignorance of the AGW alarmista out in one simple post. :-)
And its a massive roll-up ! :-)
Anyone who cannot see the earth is warming is not looking. All over the world we see glaciers melting and mountain tops losing their ice. End of story
Here’s a partial list of the glaciers that are growing…
http://www.iceagenow.com/List_of_Expanding_Glaciers.htm
As a rather maniacal observer of, as I put it, “what makes people do the things they do,” and layman on this subject, I must say that this is one of the most entertaining climate change feeds then I’ve had the pleasure to read. Of course, there is no way in God’s green earth (little g-reen) that anyone (over the last two decades) has convinced me that Chicken Little isn’t alive and well. A certain party has not convinced the majority to believe that the end of times is imminent over this. What I love, or despise, about this cacophony of arrogance, is that it was fomented by this certain party to create a problem that doesn’t exist in order to declare themselves the only one capable of fixing it, advertising 101. Forgive me for intruding in this debate, but I simply couldn’t help myself. I am offended by the abuse of, or should I say desperation of the pro CW…now CC…later, who knows what word play… in order to keep grant funding, popularity, etc. I have become a complete radical against anything green, now. I consider this the fault and responsibility of the overfunded Chicken Littles. I live part-time in three different cities, two of which couldn’t care less about all the green hoopla. The third, being Aspen, quite the reverse, of course. I thank God every day for not being as gullible as half the population seems to be. If anything will destroy this world, it will be the spiteful rhetoric, ignorance and global sporting event for ultimate power permeating these times. A little more heat or a little more cool won’t matter in the least. Moot. Period. So those of you declaring 98% of the experts agree are an immediate write- off to me, and totally deserving of my distain. Do I need to say there are many people out there like me, maybe even 98%. No need to remark on my statement, I’m moving on. Just food for thought. Terrific discourse here, however, thanks!
+1
Lola, couldn’t have said it better myself!!!
maybe the Universe will get lucky and the planet will freeze over and the end of the most destructive species in the Universe will disappear.
I see, so you are convinced we are all alone out here….
Millennial here… soaking up some real knowledge. Thank you.
It seems clear that GW is a total Hoax to spend tax money on “science”. I wonder where that money really goes. I’ve read this entire thread, some really good info here.
Global warming (aka climate change) is the religion of the stupid. Sheep, lemmings, and Leftists are easily manipulated.
zazzle.com/firstprinciples?rf=238518351914519699
And when the cold comes and the crops fail , what then? Imagine a a year without a summer in modern times. No food for you climate change propagandists.
Its still sauna weather at NOAA HQ!
I’ve been saying for years we’re entering a cooling phase. My source is “Old Reliable.” What is that? The Vostok ice core data that goes back over 400,000 years. It’s very cyclical and consistent. The data graph strongly points to a long-term trend on the horizon. I believe the primary causes of the consistency of the data are the sun’s cycles and the earth’s axial and orbital wobbles.
Of course, ocean currents, water vapor, and volcanic activity also contribute to changes in some regions. For example, the Sahara Desert was lush with green 11,000 years ago and the glaciers were in the process of receding from upper North America.
how our buddies on the left spin this which you know absolutely they will
Even if we are responsible for some of the warming that occurred during the last century, it is a very, very insignificant contribution. It is very possible we have been contributing to global cooling. Again, it would have been an insignificant contribution. What we ARE responsible for is air, land, and water pollution caused by human beings. No doubt about that! And if we have a nuclear war, we will be significant contributors to global cooling, depending on how many monster mushrooms we create.
The solar output is probably the biggest contributor to the earth’s temperature. The sun is currently at a very low historical level of activity. That is why global temperatures on Earth and Mars are dropping. It has nothing to do with global warming because we are actually seeing global cooling. So for you global warming worshipers cooling is the opposite of warming.
It has been forecast that we may achieve a Maunder Minimum around 2030. If that happen the only thing you can do is buy farmland near the equator. Then you can expect a small ice age in the Northern Latitudes. That is what happened the last time we experienced a Maunder Minimum in 1645.
Temperature dropped from 1.21 in March 2016 to 0.12 in September 2016. This is indeed surprising. But why was there such a large drop?
I noticed that 1.21 is a record high value for March of any year in the data set, whereas 0.12 is a pretty typical value for September. Is this large drop simply due to the record high temperature in March this year?
It was called an El Nino transient.
Alarmista want to use it to claim record warming, even though El Nino are absolutely nothing to do with CO2..
Why shouldn’t TH use it to show the massive rate of cooling after that El Nino transient.! :-)
It is actually a BRILLIANT post ! :-)
I like it… ;)
The personal behavior of 1% of the U. S. population results in their CO2 footprint being 50 TIMES the average of the other 99%. Not surprising to anyone. What does surprise people is when they realize this means this small group is responsible for more than 33% of ALL U. S. CO2 emissions (all CO2 emissions are attributable to people) and were this small group to only emit 25 TIMES the average of everyone else, OVERALL U. S. CO2 emissions would immediately (not over decades) decline 17%. Could ANY of you AGW folks please explain why all the plans being implemented and proposed will allow this small group to continue their behavior unabated while financially hammering the lower income and middle classes, just for being alive. Please hurry with your explanation, for it is an emergency, you tell us. YOUR explanation for this could change many of those rubes minds about the existence of AGW. BTW, NO ONE has been able to explain this……………………………………………….because it is just part of the scam. THANKS! Should we all wait here for your explanation?
They don’t even believe their own s c a m…..
If they did, they would know that they are going to die too
…or possibly just move
Because we all know it’s only USA CO2 that’s dangerous
But, but, but gorebull warming!!!eleventy!!!111!
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Meanwhile here’s what’s making the news – compliments of the Associated Press
“2016 set to break heat record despite slowdown in emissions”
http://www.latimes.com/nation/sns-bc–un-climate-talks-20161114-story.html
This will also correlate the fact that in 99 years, all of human kind who are living today will be wiped out by death during that time. Oh sure, there will be some survivors, but withing 120 years they will be gone, too. And it is all natural, not man-made.
I liked the ‘wiped out by death’ part myself…
Climate Change is real ….the only issue is whether or not mankind’s contribution to it is a problem. The Gorebots – including Obama, Kerry and the several fatuous ‘celebrities’ – DeNiro, DeCaprio, and a whole bunch of other followers, simply ignore the science that disproves their claim and blindly glom on to the fraudulent studies produced and promoted by the original global warming advocates from the East Anglican University in the UK.
“glom” ? derivative of Scottish “glaum”
Not a word you see often !
“Climate Change is real”
Actually, during the satellite era, and in fact back to around 1900 the climate has been remarkably stable.
Some El Nino solar-forced energy balancing events during the latter half of last century.
but other than that, quite benign.
That may be about to change as the effects of the sleepy sun start to bite harder, some time in the next year or so.
Great post on NoTricksZone repeating what I have said hundreds of times before.
NO WARMING in the satellite temperature data apart from El Nino effects.
http://notrickszone.com/2016/11/14/since-1982-temperature-records-show-no-warming-other-than-that-due-to-natural-el-nino-warmth-inducing-events/#sthash.xw4Yp381.dpbs
archie,
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Pleistocene Epoch (last Ice Age) began about 1.8 million years ago and lasted until about 11,700 years ago. It ended without a car, truck or airplane in sight. Gee Wiz, the Earth gets hot & cold without Man!!!! Could Climate Change be from the Sun or the Earth’s orbit around it. Lets sue somebody!!!!
Darn it.. I wish this thread wasn’t here.
I have other important work I have got to do ! :-(
roaring laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!…..
A terribly inconvenient truth.
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The data in:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/data/rss-land/
Does not seem to be the same as is on the chart for 2016.
Tell me where I am wrong.
Thanks.
Why are you using an 8 month comparison period, why not a 12 month or 3 month?
Genuinely interested in reasoning of chosen window
John, it’s a stand alone period. It’s the fastest 8 month drop in temps.
The past 8 months saw a record drop in temps. The rest of the graph just shows it’s a record drop in temps for the past 8 months. There are no other 8 month periods on the graph where temps went from that high..to that low…this fast
Here is 6 month. Still obvious.
8 months just happens to be the time since the peak of the El Nino transient.
So it is the obvious period to look at.
….bingo!
Uh oh. A LOT of global-warming leftwingnut fruitcakes are not going to like this news. They’ll be demanding that CNN, CBS, NBC, and ABC retract this “cooling” news immediately. Matter of fact, it may never even make it to the “news’.
Google: Sea Level NOAA Battery. the graph there shows no trend change back to 1850 when world pop. was 1 billion. It’s now 7 billion and burning of hydrocarbons has increased even faster, yet increased polar ice cap melting has NOT occurred.
Not to mention the fact that melting pack ice has no effect on sea level. Aside from the fact that the pack ice represents an absolutely trivial amount of the total water in the oceans, floating ice already displaces its own mass of liquid water. That’s why it floats.
Fill a glass with ice and water to the rim, and wait for the ice to melt. Does it overflow? No, it does not.
Its not the USA that is leading the world in air pollution its China. I don’t see them doing anything to lower their Co2 emissions. They are building coal fired power plants at a rate of 1 a week with no end in sight. As far as population goes, if we didn’t feed all the stupid starving people in the world who can’t control their own sex drives, there wouldn’t be a population problem. Whatever you subsidize, you create more of. Give poor people money to have babies and you will get more babies. Of course, this serves our Democratic Party well. The more people depend on the government for their income the less likely they are to leave the plantation.
Orwell had a word for this: “Doublethink.”
For years they’ve hammered the notion that global warming is proof of “climate change.” Now that it’s cooling they say, “See? Told you so.”
Without skipping a beat, and without a hint of irony.
Gee, how awkward for ManBearPig and all the knuckleheads who swallow his global warming BS hook, line and sinker. Sheesh.
Could it be that the Russian scientist are correct that the sun is going into a very low energy level and the sun’s own magnet fields are shifting. Very close to what happen in the 1840/1860 when it snowed on in Kansas and New England in June, July, August.
Want to know what’s going on
Go to Youtube…Adapt 2030
https://youtu.be/2bvbaBdN34A
Fossil fuels allow Millennials the luxury to be more concerned about their gender and which bathroom to use than how they eat, heat their homes, transport themselves, find clean water, sip their fair trade coffee with extra foam.
If the grid goes down for even a day….
I live in South Australia this month are average temp for high and low are 3.4 c below average and summer starts on the 1st of December.
This eight month cooling anomaly is most likely due to the effects of direct climate engineering operations. The climate analysis from the same source shows signification warming of the troposphere over the last 35 years:
Tropospheric Temperature
There are three tropospheric temperature datasets available from RSS, TLT (Temperature Lower Troposphere), TMT (Temperature Middle Troposphere), and TTT (Temperature Tropical Troposphere, after Fu and Johansen). Using these datasets, we can investigate whether there have been significant changes in the tropospheric temperature over the last 35 years, and whether or not the spatial patterns of these changes agree with those predicted by climate models.
Over the past decade, we have been collaborating with Ben Santer at LLNL (along with numerous other investigators) to compare our tropospheric results with the predictions of climate models. Our results can be summarized as follows:
Over the past 35 years, the troposphere has warmed significantly. The global average temperature has risen at an average rate of about 0.13 degrees Kelvin per decade (0.23 degrees F per decade).
Climate models cannot explain this warming if human-caused increases in greenhouse gases are not included as input to the model simulation.
The spatial pattern of warming is consistent with human-induced warming. See Santer et al 2008, 2009, 2011, and 2012 for more about the detection and attribution of human induced changes in atmospheric temperature using MSU/AMSU data.
The only warming in the satellite era has come from El Nino events.
http://notrickszone.com/2016/11/14/since-1982-temperature-records-show-no-warming-other-than-that-due-to-natural-el-nino-warmth-inducing-events/#sthash.oj5NYgVS.dpbs
The spatial pattern of warming is ONLY consistent with El Nino type warming.
1. No warming in the UAH or RSS satellite record from 1980 to 1998 El Nino
2. No warming between the end of that El Nino in 2001 and the start of the current El Nino at the beginning of 2015.
3. No warming in the southern polar region for the whole 38 years of the satellite record.
4. No warming in the southern ex-tropicals for 20 years.
5. No warming in Australia for 20 years, cooling since 2002
6. No warming in Japan surface data for the last 20 years, No warming from 1950-1990.. ie, a zero trend for 40 years through their biggest industrial expansion
7. No warming in the USA since 2005 when a non-corrupted system was installed, until the beginning of the current El Nino.
8. UAH Global Land shows no warming from 1979-1997, then no warming from 2001 – 2015
9. Iceland essentially the same temperature as in the late 1930s as now, maybe slightly lower
10. British Columbia (Canada) temperatures have been stable, with no warming trend, throughout 1900-2010
11. Chile has been cooling since the 1940s.
12. Southern Sea temperatures not warming from 1982-2005, then cooling
13. Even UAH NoPol shows no warming this century until the large spike in January 2016.
That is DESPITE a large climb in CO2 levels over those regions and time periods.
THERE IS NO CO2 WARMING EFFECT……NONE, NADA…..
The ONLY warming has come from regional El Nino and ocean circulation effects such as the PDO and AMO.
Over the past 35 years, the troposphere has warmed significantly. The global average temperature has risen at an average rate of about 0.13 degrees Kelvin per decade (0.23 degrees F per decade).
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.23 per decade X 3.5 decades = .805 F
…well I certainly felt it
My coffee was 0.8ºF too cool this morning.
My life is over !!
These guys are so, so funny, aren’t they. Lat. !!
..but it was significant!!!!
ROTFL
“most likely due to the effects of direct climate engineering operations.”
WTF is that meant to mean?
It means no sudden movements….don’t make eye contact
…and back up slowly
Santer is a liar and a fraud. Just like Hansen, Schmidt, Mann, Schneider, Jones, Karl, Petersen, Dessler, Hayhoe, Alley, Wigly, Holdren, Erlich, and the rest of the cabal that make up the “consensus.” And he also has a propensity toward violence against his fellow scientists who disagree with his fraudulent positions.
Give the data to NASA. By the time they get through adjusting the numbers they will have you convinced the oceans are boiling.
Of course the planet is cooling.
Obama explained that he healed the planet in return for the nation electing him in 2008.
All hail the self-anointed Obamessiah!
This rapid cooling is due to global warming!
It’s all documented in that really scary movie ‘The Day After Tomorrow’.
Folks, There’s only one solution left:
Everyone has to pay Carbon Taxes, lots and lots of Carbon taxes!
I hope everybody saw this cartoon. :-)
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Doesn’t this happen every year? I think it’s called “Winter”.
These are anomalies…. and they are global.
In case you didn’t know, that means the seasonal cycle is taken out of the data…
.. and in the Southern Hemisphere.. it is coming into summer, anyway.
Try again…. when you can get you mind around it. !.
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The CLUB OF ROME, just ONE of MANY ~ FRONT ORGANIZATIONS ~ of the Western “elites” is the organization that came up with “global warming”, back in 1991, in their publication, entitled THE FIRST GLOBAL REVOLUTION.
“In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution,the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.” — excerpt from THE FIRST GLOBAL REVOLUTION, by CLUB OF ROME, 1991.
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/14/2016-will-be-the-hottest-year-on-record-un-says
2016 will very likely be the hottest year on record and a new high for the third year in a row, according to the UN. It means 16 of the 17 hottest years on record will have been this century.
The scorching temperatures around the world, and the extreme weather they drive, mean the impacts of climate change on people are coming sooner and with more ferocity than expected, according to scientists.
The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) report, published on Monday at the global climate summit in Morocco, found the global temperature in 2016 is running 1.2C above pre-industrial levels. This is perilously close to to the 1.5C target included as an aim of the Paris climate agreement last December.
Utter nonsense. Are you a bot?
and the extreme weather they drive,…
All of the “extreme weather” is down…..way down
…even earthquakes……….LOL
King Cnut is laughing
Quoting anything the Gruniad writes shows you are NOTHING but a GULLIBLE, BRAIN-DEAD, IGNORANT TWERP.
..it’s worse than that
It was the guardian quoting the UN
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According to the independent scientist who authored Planet X, Comets and Earth Changes and Principia Meterologia the Earth is warming and relaxing (mountain land slides) from a close fly-by of a planet sized comet (comet Venus) that caused the last cooling event.
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