Before the election Barack Obama was bragging about how great everything is, and saying that everything good in the world was his doing. But now, he says the world is falling apart and controlled by evil Russians – who have even seized control of the minds of American voters.
I wonder if Putin is also causing the climate collapse which Obama’s agencies keep talking about?
I guess the only people in this country not embarrassed right now…are the liberals
And to think, this spoiled child was once president
Russia is NOT our enemy. They are another Nationalistic Christian country with their own wants and needs. Unlike the Jihadists they can be negotiated with.
Paul Craig Roberts has several of Putin’s speeches so you can read them WITHOUT the progressive/George Soros globalist filter. link
Lubos Motl had several articles on the Ukraine and the USA/EU/NATO breaking of agreements. (Sorry I can’t find that specific one.)
Here are two:
March 01, 2014 Russia can hardly allow Crimea to become militarily hostile
Ukraine: the price of internal division — Guest blog by Mr Jack Matlock, former U.S. ambassador to Czechoslovakia (1981-83) and USSR (1987-91)
From Russia Insider:
Oct 3, 2015 Stephen Cohen Speaks Out to Top German News Site, Rips Media Demonization of Putin
Putin would never bother negotiating with a base LIAR like Obama.
Negotiations require trust, something Obama could never deliver.
Putin and Trump will negotiate well together.
Note that the Middle East is moving towards a more totalitarian ‘outlook’ since Obummer and Hillary’s meddling and Russia seems to be moving a bit more towards freedom.
Andrey Nikolayevich Illarionov is a Russian economist and former economic policy advisor to the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin. He works as a senior fellow in the Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity at the Cato Institute.
Illarionov is the guy who wrote the article about the ClimAstrologists messing with the Russian temperature data right after the Climategate scandal.
Heck Vladimir Putin’s Russia Adopts Concealed Carry!
Russia even has the sense to Issue International Arrest Warrant for Convicted Felon George Soros while the USA lets Soros control the voting machines in 16 states and fund many of the NGOs promoting violence like Black Lives Matters.
Exactly Gail…
Then the idiot kicks the Russians out of here, and is so stupid doesn’t realize we have had those buildings wired since day one. Now we can’t spy on them either.
It’s time for Christian countries to come together and face facts. This is a religions war…and no that’s not racist
Latitude,
Putin maybe KGB, but he is smart and level headed and sure beats the crazies in Political Islam. He also has a degree in economics and is playing close attention to the economy of his country so he beats the crap out of Obummer on that issue.
From Ruppert Murdock/Saudi Prince al-Walid bin Talal’s Wall Street Journal aka Russia’s enemy.
Why Putin’s Economy Survives: Conservative fiscal and monetary policies, plus an autocrat’s ability to impose austerity measures, keep Russia afloat where the Soviet Union sank
Note how the WSJ glosses over the important points:
I’m just coming from the position that Putin hates Obama and Hillary…
..so by not barking back
He made them look like ever bigger fools!
..it was obvious what he was doing when he invited the American diplomats and their children to the festivals…he just twisting the knife
But with halfwit Obama and democrats…it’s easy
Hacking has been going on for a LONG time. Nothing is safe so long as your information is accessible to anyone over the internet. Yet, today we are encouraged by commercial, financial, and tech companies to put all of our sensitive information on “the cloud”.
What I’d like to know is – did Google know these high profile accounts were being hacked? If so, did they do anything to alert the affected persons? This should be a wake-up call to anyone using an e-mail service like Gmail. This should also be a warning to anyone who gives their personal information over to “the cloud” through their cell phone and home devices like NEST or Amazon Echo…
That has been my running battle with Hubby. I want to pay using snail mail he wants to pay phone, electric, mortgage… using the internet. Since he wrote computer manuals for a living he should know better!
I’ve reposted material from this thread to climate/energy related threads literally for years. Now this pathetic Putinist propaganda is making me concerned about doing so any longer. You guys are hurting this blog’s effectiveness.
Well, there’s still wuwt, notalotofpeopleknowthat, and others.
Sorry that we are breaking down your pre-conceived notions of Putin.
Where did you get them from.. the MSM ?????
Nice turn of phrase that, “pathetic Putinist propaganda.” Russia Is still our enemy.
“Russia Is still our enemy.”
Common sense could change that. Why do you think Trump chose Rex Tillerson.!
Why have them as an enemy when you could at least be neutral or even slightly friendly?
Do you really WANT then as an enemy ?
I have a suspicion that many things are going to be changing for the better over the next 4 or 8 years.
The question to ask is HOW did Russia suddenly become out enemy after Obummer was in office and Hillary in the State Dept.
That is why I read what Lubos Motl had to say instead of our propaganda rags.
Finding out our good buddy George Soros had his sticky fingers all over the mess in the Ukraine didn’t surprise me since he had his sticky fingers all over the ‘color revolutions’
Zero Hedge: Leaked Memo Proves Soros Ruled Ukraine In 2014: Minutes From “Breakfast With US Ambassador Pyatt”
Investment WatchGeorge Soros Leak proves link to Turkey, Armenia, Ukraine, Russia, etc… Hillary lies and diverts attention when asked about George Soros
Soros is one scary dude. I prefer Putin when taking sides.
George Soros: ‘I Am A God, I Created Everything’
George Soros Says He Feels No Remorse For Collaborating With Nazis During WWII to Send His Fellow Jews to the Death Camps, Steal Their Property
I don’t agree with that at all…
Russia is not our enemy….they are just in competition with us
Thanks for articulating what I was trying to say.
It is China I am much more worried about. China HATES OUR GUTS and our government has been ignoring the threat.
Lessons of history: China’s century of humiliation and China blames the UK and the USA for that century of humiliation.
China Picks at the Scab to Keep the Wound Fresh
“A passage from an essay by the Australian defense analyst Paul Monk is very telling on the subject of what President Xi intends for Asia’s near future:”
To win his election Bill Clinton traded the US economy plus trade and military secrets for Chinese campaign donations. Bill Clinton bought by China
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2010 — Pentagon Losing Control of Laser Guided Bombs to China’s Monopoly
I swear we were separated at birth…
…look at what I responded to TA LOL
Latitude,
I would gladly trade you for my brother!
Yep…we were
and you for my sister…..LOL
Sounds like a mix and match made in heaven.
Lets go for it.
ROTFL…You’re on!
It would make me proud!
“… pathetic Putinist propaganda…”
SO does that mean you want a war with Russia, probably nuclear with Russia?? Beause that was were Hillary [Soros] was headed.
You do not have to ‘love’ Putin to be able to negotiate with him so how about taking the Globalist blinders off.
Remember the last president of the Soviet Union now lives in California and is buddy buddy with Al Gore and active in US politics.
And while you are at it ask yourself WHY, if most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi Arabia. If Saudi Arabia has a very nasty slave based society and even Hillary in one of the E-mails says Saudi Arabia is funding ISIS… Is the USA wiping out SAUDI ARABIA’s ENEMIES and NOT Saudi Arabia. Not to mention allowing Saudi Arabia to fund and direct US mosques. link
THIS is what not negotiating looks like:
excellent point Gail..and I agree 100% with you
And “you guys” would be exactly who, Bruce, since you didn’t address any poster or argument specifically?
I have been following Tony’s blogging for a long time. I agree with much of what he says but not with every single thought. The same goes for some of the commenters. Do you find the diversity of opinion here disturbing?
I am very aware of the danger Putin’s Russia represents to the people of the Baltics, for example, and others. I also follow some of the Russian media directly and I have a reason to believe I’m much better informed about who is who there, what is pro-Kremlin propaganda and what is published by Putin’s pro-democracy opponents. Putin is a ruthless man but if you are a resident of Moscow whose family member was blown up by an Islamic Chechen “black widow” you will probably develop a more “nuanced” point of view. There seems to be some diversity of opinion and a lively discussion among the Russians themselves in this matter.
And while I was typing this, I have received from a Commie acquintance yet another reference to the “news” from our media that the Russians “hacked our elections”. I clearly must have not known what I was doing on November 8 because the Russians infiltrated my mind and made me vote against Hillary the Inevitable.
Or do you think that’s a “pathetic Democrat propaganda”? I need to wrap my mind around it or I will not be able to sleep tonight.
+1
You know…the difference is culture.
I would never think to tell Putin how to run his country and his people. They are all coming from a completely different place than we are. They are coming from a position of being ruled…to having more freedom…
We are coming from the opposite.
Becoming more like us is a step up for them…
…us becoming more like them would be a step down for us
Are they better off now…absolutely
…but they are coming from a strong culture where they expect to have strong rulers
We have to stop thinking or expecting that people in other countries think like we do. Just because they can watch Oprah too.
They have their history and culture, we have ours.
Our republic only works with well read well informed voters that is why the Progressives have targeted our education system.
God, how I look forward to this lying conniving little weasel leaving office. I never thought I’d see it, but for the first time in American history we have a president who hates our country, its economic system, its traditions, and half its citizens. Obama is a nasty piece of work, who conned his way into the White House with that hope and change BS, and his gentle and convivial demeanor. It was all phoniness. Obama is a hateful and destructive man, perpetually angry at white people and doing his best to hurt them.
Worst president in American history, hands down. Obama makes Warren G. Harding look like a genius, and he makes Andrew Johnson look like a loyal American.
+1
…cut them loose
I mean it….
California Democrats legalize child prostitution
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/california-democrats-legalize-child-prostitution/article/2610540
Interesting article. Since the age of consent is still 18, this does not shield the adults involved.. only the kids.
Unfortunately it does not get the kid off the street and into help. It also does not give the cops anything to twist to get the kid to rat out the pimp.
The writer of the article also missed the wider implication.
I disagree with the writer based on #25 and #26 of the Communist goals. I also added Clinton’s help in reaching goals #4 and #7 (WTO part of the UN) and the attack we have seen on Judeo-Christian religions.
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963 — From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen
We have pretty much put in place all of the goals of the Communist party in just 50 years.
I don’t trust the Russians but it seems that Putin on his worst day will outsmart Obama the Magnificent, who as we know well is the smartest man in the world and a celebrated Burkean statesman, besides having a superior temperament and the best creased pant legs.
Colorado,
You might be interested in these 2009 stories on Obama and NATO from Russia.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140706101536/http://en.ria.ru/papers/20091216/157260660.html
And no I do not trust Putin. He has his own interests. However when it comes to ISIS, I think Russia and the USA can certainly cooperate.
While I was looking for the info on the Russian Temperature data in my bookmarks I also ran across this 2009 article:
Putin: Obama “Idiot” For Adopting Socialism (SATIRE)
Looks like the PA Pundits – International was correct…
“The Russian news agency, Ria Novosti, reports that the Moscow-based Institute of Economic Analysis (IEA) revealed that researchers with the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research in England “had probably tampered with Russian climate data.”
I would like to know how CRU is allowed to tamper with Russian climate data. Did they sneak in the back door while the Russians were not looking?
And of course, the most important question is: Do the Russians still have their original climate data? If so, they need to send it to Tony and let Tony produce some before and after charts. If CRU tampered with the data, what do you want to bet they cooled the Russian past. What do you want to bet that the 1930’s-40’s was very hot in Russia during that time. :)
As for Putin and Trump getting friendly, I would hold off on any enthusiasm until we see what Putin wants. So far, Putin is not acting friendly, he is being smart and clever with his public relations. Don’t confuse that with him being a nice guy.
We might be able to work with Putin, but it all depends on Putin and what his objectives are. His objectives may not be our objecives. Such as Putin backing the mass murderer, Assad. Putin and the U.S. are at odds over Assad, and Putin isn’t going to abandon Assad now that he has him firmly in power in Syria.
Putin would have to change his ways drastically for him to be considered a friend of the U.S. That doesn’t mean we can’t cooperate on destroying radical Islamic terrorists. We both have an interest in that fight.
We’ll just have to wait and see how this all turns out. We are definitely better off with Trump handling the issue, no matter which way it goes.
Ironic that a Russia/USA alliance would neuter China…
..I trust Russia more than I would ever trust China
YES! That is exactly what I was thinking and I am sure it is what Putin is thinking.
He has the Chinese Dragon on one side and the crazy Europeans (WITH NUKES) letting in Islamic Jihadists on the other. On top of that he has Soros agitating unrest and getting NATO to point those Nukes at him.
Then you had this:
Russia, after Hillary threw a Temper Tantrum 10 minutes into a diplomatic mission thinks she is batsh..t crazy. AND The Kremlin Really Believes That Hillary Wants to Start a War With Russia
We really really dodge a bullet getting Trump instead of Hillary.
And while we are at it…
Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention
Which is what I have said for years.
He’s got liberal socialized marxist globalization nation building on all sides..and Obama and Clinton were the ring leaders..
Or to put that another way…
Obama, Hillary, the democrat party, almost all republicans in Washington, liberals, Soros, the EU, etc etc..
…are all pushing globalization
You can’t have globalization without a good enemy..
..they made Russia the enemy
letting in Islamic Jihadists on the other…
Just like we are doing….
We need to stop calling that line in the sand to our south a border…we do not have a border.
..and they are burning people alive, cutting heads off, torturing….no different than ISIS…right next to us
They don’t talk about that because it would undermine globalization
DANG!
There was an author who wrote a book and a good article on the Mexican drug cartels (a long with getting threats) but I can’t find the blasted book mark.
……
There is also this weird worship springing up associated with the Mexican Drug cartels.
I don not know if this will show on your computer:
http://wamu.org/story/12/05/17/digging_into_the_history_of_mexicos_grim_santa_muerte/
A Virginia scholar is looking into the lore surrounding Mexico’s folk hero, Santa Muerte. The skeleton lady is now worshipped on both sides of the country’s drug culture….
http://paranormalwitness.tumblr.com/post/58453099292/the-truth-behind-the-santa-muerte-the-holy
http://faithinthefiveboroughs.org/video/la-flaca/
TA, you may have seen this already but if not, you should know it works like balm for my worried soul:
https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/814862379192352769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Like a boss! Iowahawk expertly dismantles media’s ‘election hacking’ B.S.
To paraphrase Glenn Reynolds, it’s Iowahawks’s internet, we are just visitors.
… Iowahawk’s internet, dammit!
LOL!
WHAT!
From the twitchy comments
Something About This Russia Story Stinks
It is by Matt Taibbi and he is usually reasonable for a progressive so he sees there is no real evidence. He also see that 1/2 those who voted Hillary actually think Russia hacked the vote tallies thanks to the misleading MSM headlines.
Heh. I didn’t notice your comment before I posted the same thing at the bottom of the thread.
What CRU did was drop the cold rural stations just as they did in Canada.
https://diggingintheclay.wordpress.com/2010/04/11/canada-top-of-the-hockey-league-part-1/
https://diggingintheclay.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/canada-2-ghcngiss-comparisons-with-environment-canada/
https://diggingintheclay.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/the-station-drop-out-problem/
FOUND IT on the wayback There are several articles and this is buried in the middle so here it is
I’d say Obama is not doing well with his Russians-Did-It story if even the progressive dickheads at the Rolling Stone smell a rat:
good Lord…..hacking the DNC is like saying Russia hacked some garden club
Hacking the president of Germany phone….president of Brazil…president of Mexico
….those are acts of war
That may depend on the gardeners. If it’s John Christie or this couple from Arkansas whose name momentarily escapes me …
..and everyone forgets it wasn’t that long ago that Russia threatened to go back to typewriters
…and why
From the Groiniad no less:
(WWWDOT)theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/russia-reverts-paper-nsa-leaks
……
A wee bit of Pot and Kettle there from Obummer with China the biggest Hacker of all.
2012: Hackers Linked to China’s Army Seen From EU to D.C. (Unfortunately no longer available without paying)
Another from Bloomberg headline is: China Based Hacking of 760 Companies Reflects Undeclared Global Cyber War
IIRC not only companies but university research was targeted.
Chinese Military Group Linked to Hacks of More Than 100 Companies
Oak Ridge National Laboratory was hacked using the same sort of method used for Podesta’s hack.
Top Federal Lab Hacked in Spear-Phishing Attack
(Paragraphs mixed up because I kept getting an Ad blocking the entire article.)
Chinese hack U.S. weather systems, satellite network
So why aren’t we seeing screaming and economic sanctions by Obummer AND CONGRESS against CHINA????
That is why I found this whole flap about Russia stinking to high heaven.
E.M. Smith has an interesting take on the “Russia is our enemy” crap.
Interesting thread evolving per usual
sabretoothed just tossed up this:
I really really hate the Obummer Admin…..