Arctic Sea Ice Volume Up 20% Since 2008

The animation below show the huge increase in 1+ meter thick sea ice in the central Arctic since 2008.

Sea ice volume is up 20% since 2008, and is also higher than 2007 and 2016.

2008   2017

The really sad thing for climate alarmists is that there will be a huge increase in the amount of Multi-Year Ice in three weeks, which will get very thick during the winter.

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77 Responses to Arctic Sea Ice Volume Up 20% Since 2008

  1. gator69 says:

    You would think that ice lovers would be celebrating. Do they secretly hate ice almost as much as they hate poor brown people?

  2. Kris Johanson says:

    Surely the Pope will be announcing a year of jubilee and celebration, and one can already hear Mother literally breathing a sigh of relief

  3. Events have shown that eco-nihilism has acquired its own ideological momentum. With no Soviet Altruria to command allegiance, the New Left has simply morphed into a floating strain of ecological international socialism. The anti-nuclear lies generated by the machinery of coercive statism are as venerated as a Turin Shroud or homily about the Resurrection of Lazarus manufactured over 150 years afterward. Millerites of 1844 persist as 7th-Day Amnesiacs with nary a flutter. Prohibitionism against electricity came too close to doing to kilowatt-hours what Methodist Bryanism did to light beer, cacti and other herbs. Maxwell’s equations emerged as energy-slaves replaced chattel slavery, but a glance at Germany shows idiocy can, as in 1933-45 reverse the process.

  4. dave1billion says:

    Griff,

    Why does your first chart (presumably for 2017) reference Ice Speed and Drift?

    If we’re using non-sequiturs to argue AGW, I like toast.

  5. Ruth Mottram says:

    Can you tell us where you got these images from – because the actual one shown on the DMI website is not the one you’re showing here.

    You cn check for yourself here:

    http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icethickness/thk.php

    • tonyheller says:

      If you look closely, I masked out all the ice less than 1 meter thick, and I explained that quite clearly in the image title. But thanks for the conspiracy theory.

    • Jim Hunt says:

      Welcome to the blog of fools Ruth!

      • AndyG55 says:

        Says the most moronic clown on the web.

        Jimbo, the snivelling cowardly clown.

      • Gator says:

        Welcome to the blog of fools Ruth!

        Now I know why Genocide Jim keeps coming back, he mistakenly (big surprise) believes this blog is for himself and his peers.

      • sunsettommy says:

        Notice that Jimboy, didn’t try to dispute Tony’s answer at all.

        Tony was right all along talking about 1+ Meter thick ice,so he masked out the thinner ice to make the comparison more visible.

        By the way why is he still posting here? as he is a dishonest commenter. He was BANNED again at WUWT today.

        Anthony erased Jim’s dishonest comments and Mine too since I replied to his crap.

        LOL

        • Jim Hunt says:

          What “crap” was that then Tommy?

          I was unaware that the comment of mine to which I assume you are referring, and which was so efficiently [snipped], ever saw the light of day at WUWT.

          • Gator says:

            What “crap” was that then Tommy?

            And here we see the problem, Genocide Jim does not know crap from science.

            Why do you hate poor brown people GJ?

          • Jim Hunt says:

            Thanks for the heads up Tommy.

            I’ve now located the evidence in my extensive records.

            ROFLMAO!

          • AndyG55 says:

            Jimbo, you truly are an arrogant self-important ignorant low-life, on top of being a snivelling coward

            No-one has to publish your moronic slime post anywhere if they don’t want to

            Crawl back into the sewer that is your con/scam /LYING , deceit of a web site.

            And if you can over come you abject COWARDICE, answer this question.

            What SHOULD the current level of sea ice be, Jimbo.

            Give reasons for your answer.

            Should it be up there with the extent of the LIA..

            or should it be much lower, like during the MWP and the first 7000-8000 year of the current interglacial?

            Awaiting your clown-like response. But as always, you will be too cowardly to answer

          • Jim Hunt says:

            Tell you what Andy. Why don’t you help Tommy dig up some evidence for these scurrilous allegations of his?

          • gator69 says:

            Hoo boy howdy! Yeah, genocide is nothing. Right Jim? Arguing over meaningless ice is what really counts. Right Jim?

            Why do you hate poor brown people?

          • AndyG55 says:

            You COWARDLY piece of slime

            Answer the question !

          • AndyG55 says:

            Evidence , that you will DENY as always.

            LYING is your only come-back isn’t it.

          • AndyG55 says:

            And just so EVERYONE can see what a DISHONEST LYING JERK you are, Jimbo

          • AndyG55 says:

            And more evidence, to show EVERYONE what a COWARD and a LIAR you really are , Jimbo

            http://www.ybw.com/news-from-yachting-boating-world/explorer-pen-hadow-aims-first-person-sail-north-pole-yacht-57013

          • Gator69 says:

            Nice one Andy! And… Bookmarked! LOL

          • AndyG55 says:

            Its a link that sunset gave earlier.

            Totally ignore by Jimbo the cowardly snivelling troll, of course

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            What, you say Jim Hunt lied? Did the sun rise in the morning?

          • gator69 says:

            I’m with you CW. It’s truly hard to believe that an agenda driven genocidal poor brown person hating person like Jim would ever let fly a fib.

            What next?

            Air?

          • sunsettommy says:

            You are dishonest, because you continually present half the story on nearly everything.

            You disputed there were two Ice Breakers for the already ice hardened Yachts travels. You said I was confused about the Yachts. I bring up already posted evidence that there were indeed two, you vanish.

            You claim it was a science mission only,when it was more than that,as Pen himself talked a lot about being able to reach his goal,the North Pole. Showed what he said on JULY 24 about the mission. You make it seem that you were presenting a Red Herring and or Straw man fallacy,about the Science side of the mission. Something NO ONE disputed.Then you vanish.

            Then you disputed that he changed his mission of going TO the Pole to one of going AROUND the North Pole,I presented already posted charts that supports my contention, you vanish.

            Need I go on?

            You have a bad habit of leaving out important information,while ignoring or discounting without cause ,vital information other present to you.

            Your approach in how you talk to us stinks,disagree fine, but don’t be such a jerk about it!

          • sunsettommy says:

            This is what Anthony said about you:

            ” Jim Hunt
            September 1, 2017 at 12:19 am Edit

            [snip this commenter has been banned, for thread bombing using multiple identities, and repeatedly told that he’s been banned, yet persists -Anthony]”

            You are pathetic!

          • sunsettommy says:

            Holy Cow!

            Jimmy forgot his own crap he posted at WUWT, that Anthony deleted earlier today!

            That is good since it was your typically obvious red herring statement, quoting from Hadow’s website that it was a Science mission,which NOBODY disputed in the thread!

            The post was about the failure of reaching the North Pole,not about the science side of the mission. A goal that Hadow talked about a lot BEFORE the mission started,as you long knew since you posted it on your own website about what Pen said to the BBC,July 24.

            That is what Anthony snipped out,you quoting about it being a scientific mission,which no one and the post itself argued about at all.

            Go slink away…..

          • gator69 says:

            this commenter has been banned, for thread bombing using multiple identities

            I had my suspicions about Genocide X’ers I have encountered here recently. Explains alot.

          • Jim Hunt says:

            Not that Tommy’s purple prose is a prime example of such, but can’t you guys understand plain(ish) English?

            Where’s the evidence that “Pen and his boys have been changing parts of their website to delete their original mission”?

            Whilst you go and dig that out, here is the evidence that Anthony Watts seems very keen to ensure that his faithful flock never see:

          • AndyG55 says:

            DISHONEST JIMBO.

          • gator69 says:

            Scumbags just cannot smell themselves, as evidenced by Genocide Jim’s ghoulish glib demeanor, and refusal to slink away quietly. Leftists really have no shame.

          • Jim Hunt says:

            Evidently you don’t understand plain English Andy. Let me endeavour to assist you.

            P.S. I’m still waiting to see Tommy’s evidence for his scurrilous assertions.

          • AndyG55 says:

            TO THE NORTH POLE.

            Tell me Jimbo, how does it feel to be know as the most DISHONESTY piece of human excrement on the planet ??

            Yes we know, and WUWT admits that there was a minor scientific aim to their FAILED journey.

            The ONLY person being DISHONEST here is YOU, Jimbo

            And it really is TOTALLY PATHETIC and TOTALLY COWARDLY how you are slithering around avoiding answering a simple question..

            What SHOULD the current level of sea ice be, Jimbo?

            Give reasons for your answer.

            Should it be up there with the extent of the LIA?

            or should it be much lower, like during the MWP and the first 7000-8000 year of the current interglacial?

            Have some guts for once in your miserable life.

            You really are the most cowardly ,piece of slime in the universe , aren’t you.

          • Latitude says:

            Jim…honestly, you can’t spin this around like that

            They tried to sail to the north pole….and couldn’t

            If they intended to just tool around, they wouldn’t have said “north pole”

    • AndyG55 says:

      Ruth, if you can’t figure out that all Tony has done is mask out sea ice less than 1m thick from the DMI chart……

      How did you get employed??

      Did you work up from tea-lady !

    • AndyG55 says:

      WOW..

      MANIC FAIL from Ruth.

      Unable to put up anything to back up her garbage argument..

      Or, more likely, just realised that she stuffed up, and is just too EMBARRASSED to comment further.

  6. kyle_fouro says:

    Let me get this straight, people are losing their minds just because you masked out a portion of the 2008 sea ice thickness graphic to better portray the increase of thickness into 2017?

    • sunsettommy says:

      Kyle, it was LESS than 1 meter thick.

      Tony was showing 1 + Meter difference from the two data points,he said it himself:

      “The animation below show the huge increase in 1+ meter thick sea ice in the central Arctic since 2008.”

      1+ Meter thick sea ice

      That is what Ruth missed.

      • kyle_fouro says:

        I understand. Just seems bizarre for people to get worked up over what’s essentially a visual aid.

        • Colorado Wellington says:

          Well, the verbiage didn’t exactly suggest Ruth was worked up but Tony knows his repeat commenters better and he has less patience than I do with people asking questions they could answer themselves. After years of attacks and accusations everybody’s forgiveness would wear thin.

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            I only saw Ruth Mottram’s comment above when I responded yesterday. I did not know there was the whole conspiratorial back story and accusations on Twitter as described here:

            https://realclimatescience.com/2017/09/how-government-climate-alarmists-operate

            She worked herself into a lather in her tweets accusing Tony of manipulating the DMI data of “her colleagues”. It shows perfectly how these people operate and we know that many of them want to prosecute those who challenge the official Party line.

            The Soviet Union is gone but Marxism-Leninism is alive and well in the West.

          • Gator says:

            Tony must be over the target.

    • AndyG55 says:

      You do know that the late 1970’s was a period of EXTREME sea ice, don’t you Jimbo

      Just like you KNOW that the current sea ice levels are still WAY above those of most of the last 10,000 years.

      But just keep pushing your SLIMY MIS-INFORMATION agenda, Jimbo.

      Based on LIES and WILFUL IGNORANCE.

      What SHOULD the current level of sea ice be, Jimbo.

      Give reasons for your answer.

      Should it be up there with the extent of the LIA..

      or should it be much lower, like during the MWP and the first 7000-8000 year of the current interglacial?

      Awaiting your clown-like response.

    • Gator says:

      Who died from melting Arctic ice Jim? Why do you hate poor brown people?

      • AndyG55 says:

        Got to remember, Jimbo chooses to live in the much warmer climate with the other global warming trougher of the Exeter region.

        Fossil fuel power for heating in winter and all that.

        He couldn’t give a crap about those people living and freezing up in the Arctic region.

        He would rather DENY them the massive benefits of a more open Arctic sea like before the Little Ice Age..

        What a SICK, PUTRID, piece of low-life humanity Jimbo really is.!!

    • sunsettommy says:

      Notice that warmists like PIOMAS the most, as it consistently produce the LOWEST sea ice values.

    • sunsettommy says:

      By the way Jim, another year of no Summer ice prediction has failed.

  7. Buck Turgidson says:

    Sounds like the Arctic has stopped screaming. Thank goodness President Trunp got us out of the stupid Paris accord! Just in the nick of time! Hillary would have had us bombing the North Pole

  8. sunsettommy says:

    It is clear Jim Hunt doesn’t know what a RED HERRING is, since again he tries to make it appear that someone disputes the Science mission part,which he NEVER points out!

    Anthony made a post about Pen and his sidekick making a statement that they STOPPED trying to sail to the actual North Pole,never did Anthony or anyone else in this thread, disputed the Science mission part at all. Didn’t hide it either since Anthony himself pointed it out by quoting about the existence of a science mission

    Here is what Anthony QUOTED straight off Hadows website:

    “by Pen Hadow & Erik de Jong

    Arctic Mission’s furthest North was 80 degrees 10 minutes North, 148 degrees 51 minutes West, reached at 22:04:12 (Alaskan Time, GMT-9hours) on 29 August 2017 by yachts, Bagheera and Snow Dragon II.

    Arctic Mission moored its yachts to an ice floe on 29 August to conduct one of its 24-hour marine science surveys, while drifting with the sea ice. The strategy for any future northward progress had been to monitor the sea surface currents, sea ice, and weather conditions (both observed from the yachts and through satellites imagery downloaded onto our computers), and decide how to proceed as we approached the end of the 24-hour survey.

    A meeting of the four skippers was held led by Erik de Jong, with Pen Hadow present, and it was agreed further northward progress would increase considerably the risks to the expedition, with very limited scientific reward. The decision to head south, back to an area of less concentrated sea ice in the vicinity of 79 degrees 30 minutes North, was made at 18.30 (Alaskan time).

    Arctic Mission has demonstrated that commercial fishing and shipping vessels can now access and exploit a new, unexplored and vulnerable ocean region on the planet, the Central Arctic Ocean, due to the melting of its sea-ice cover. Approximately 1 million square kilometres of the Central Arctic Ocean is likely to have been ice-free this summer, having had year-round ice cover throughout human history until the 1980s, and likely has had for many tens of thousands of years.

    The commercial activities made possible by this loss of summer sea ice puts at risk the extraordinary wildlife that has evolved to survive in this extreme environment. Polar bears, whales, seals, fishes, seabirds, invertebrates and microbes all contribute to a unique and special ecosystem which is unlike any other on earth.

    Arctic Mission has undertaken an extensive oceanographic, wildlife and ecosystem research programme during the voyage, led by Tim Gordon of the University of Exeter (UK). This has included work on acoustic ecology, copepod distributions and physiology, microplastic pollution surveying, inorganic carbon chemistry, seabird range expansion and microbial DNA sequencing. Scientific findings will be released following comprehensive data analysis and formal publication in peer-reviewed journals in 2018/19.

    It is believed Arctic Mission has sailed further north from the coastlines surrounding the Arctic Ocean than any vessel in history without icebreaker support.

    Its vessels were the first to reach the international waters surrounding the North Pole (aka the Central Arctic Ocean), without icebreaker support and without freezing in.

    Its vessels have set the first furthest north within the Central Arctic Ocean without icebreaker support.

    Arctic Mission’s northernmost position was 590 nautical miles (678.5 statute miles) from the North Pole.”

    Did you read it? It clearly states that they are on a SCIENCE mission while they were trying to reach the Pole,but after meeting too much ice,decided to end that goal, but continue to do some more science research as they sail back toward Nome.

    Yup Anthony quoted all that into his blog post.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/31/arctic-climate-explorers-give-up-sailing-to-the-north-pole-because-theres-too-much-ice/

    Here is the HEADLINE showing he was talking about the ending of the North Pole quest,never said anything against the science mission itself at all:

    Arctic Climate Explorers give up sailing to the ‘melting’ North Pole because – there’s too much ice!

    But Jimmy boy somehow thought Anthony and others were discounting or ignoring the Science mission part,by posting a comment that said this,that was later deleted:

    “While breaking sailing records, and even reaching the North Pole itself, can make news headlines, the main purpose of Arctic Mission is intended to have value many years from now.

    Our expedition is going to explore, discover and share the stories of the spectacular marine wildlife – plants, animals and even bacteria – that live around the North Pole. Be prepared to be surprised!”

    That is what Jimmy posted at WUWT, but since there was no comment above his disputing or disparaging the Science SIDE of the mission, you posted a Red Herring.

    You are pathetic Jimmy!

    • Jim Hunt says:

      Tommy – At the risk of repeating myself, repeating myself:

      Where’s the evidence that “Pen and his boys have been changing parts of their website to delete their original mission”?

      You’re full of red herrings. This is what one looks like:

      • sunsettommy says:

        I already posted it before,showing BOTH Mission charts from Pens website.

        Here it is again since the second chart showed up AFTER they stopped going to the pole. This was pointed out to you by others in the thread you suddenly can’t remember,the ones you never replied to:

        https://realclimatescience.com/2017/08/crystal-serenity-turns-off-their-cameras/#comment-62426

        and,

        https://realclimatescience.com/2017/08/crystal-serenity-turns-off-their-cameras/#comment-62427

        Here is the second chart they added,replacing the Home page chart with this one,

        http://www.arcticmission.com/follow-arctic-mission/

        It clearly says AROUND the North Pole

        The original chart which is still there on the website says,

        “An exploration programme, led by renowned explorer Pen Hadow and skipper Erik de Jong, attempting the first voyage by yacht to the North Pole to conduct vital scientific research in this most unique and fragile environment.
        #Protect90North”

        TO the North Pole.

        They replaced the chart with a new one at this link, the original is still there on the HOME part of the website,

        http://www.arcticmission.com/follow-arctic-mission/

        Several people pointed the hard undeniable evidence to you,you suddenly vanish or never responded to them in the first place,after they replied to you.

        Give it up you thread fogger! you dishonest jackass!

      • sunsettommy says:

        Notice that Jimmy completely ignores my WUWT comment,saying Jimmy made a red herring in?

        The one where NOBODY at WUWT disparaged or disputed the science mission statement,which Anthony quoted straight off the Hadow website.

        Snicker…….

        • Jim Hunt says:

          They haven’t changed anything Tommy.

          You keep claiming two different pages on their website are the same page. They are not!

          Why not try posting a screenshot of the page that says “About Arctic Mission” at the top?

          http://www.arcticmission.com/protect90north/

          • AndyG55 says:

            DISHONESTY JIMBO !!

            You KNOW that their original web intro said “TO THE NORTH POLE”

            Its blatant and available for anyone to see.

            You are NOTHING but a DECEITFUL LIAR

          • AndyG55 says:

            And you continued childish sea-ice bed-wetting, purely to seek attention.

            DISGUSTING, and very JUVENILE of you.

          • AndyG55 says:

            Not only a very DISHONEST LIAR, But also a SNIVELLING COWARD

            Simple question for you to slither away from , yet again

            What SHOULD the current level of sea ice be?

            Come on Jimbo.

            Give reasons for your answer.

            Should it be up there with the extent of the LIA..

            or should it be much lower, like during the MWP and the first 7000-8000 year of the current interglacial?

  9. sunsettommy says:

    Also Jimmy,

    You avoid answering hard questions like this one,why?

    “sunsettommy says:
    August 31, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    Jimboy, why did they lie hard on this?

    “Arctic Mission has demonstrated that commercial fishing and shipping vessels can now access and exploit a new, unexplored and vulnerable ocean region on the planet, the Central Arctic Ocean, due to the melting of its sea-ice cover. Approximately 1 million square kilometres of the Central Arctic Ocean is likely to have been ice-free this summer, having had year-round ice cover throughout human history until the 1980s, and likely has had for many tens of thousands of years.”

    1) There are a number of Science papers published showing evidence of little to NO sea ice during the Summer.

    2) That there were several THOUSAND years of such conditions, in the early part of the Interglacial period.

    They lied on purpose,Jimmy?”

    You were all over the thread……….

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