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Climate Science In A Death Spiral For At Least 10 Years
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You need to include David Barber in the 2008.
North Pole May Be Ice-Free for First Time This Summer
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080620-north-pole.html
National Geographic News. June 20, 2008. Arctic warming has become so dramatic that the North Pole may melt this summer, report scientists studying the effects of climate change in the field. “We’re actually projecting this year that the North Pole may be free of ice for the first time [in history],” David Barber, of the University …
Sadly, National Geographic have removed the article. Fortunately, people like you have recorded it, along with Prison Planet, https://www.prisonplanet.com/arctic-ice-grows-30-per-cent-in-a-year.html
I’ve got $60 with which to fade that bet, against the econazis’ $50. I trust Tony to hold the money till payoff time. Tony is always pointing to his own predictions that came true. The pseudoscientists point to the future that “may” fail to falsify their vague speculations. If there is no ice in the Arctic August 1, Sleazy Serreze wins the bet.
Those predictions were for summer 2008. I think your bet is pretty safe!
And any bet made now is going to be pretty safe in 2028 too.
‘could’ that’s an important word… none of them say ‘will be’
And yet again, given that we have lowest extent and volume for this time of year, an ice free pole this summer ‘could’ happen. Is even ‘likely’.
The state of the ice has not improved since 2008. you can show that 2008 vs 2018 cherry picked ice thickness chart all you like, or the russian multi year ice chart too – but you are just misrepresenting the state of the arctic.
‘could’ that’s an important word… none of them say ‘will be’
All predictions for climate change use the word ‘could”. It is a weasel word used a lot by the advertising industry to frighten the witless.
Ms Griff,
Even global warming bedwetters like you “could” possibly make a relevant comment under a post but it is not “likely”. For something like that to happen you would actually have to comprehend the meaning of it rather than mindlessly repeating some talking points.
You think that posting an embarrassing list of stupid claims by alarmist media is “misrepresenting the state of the arctic”. The rest of us are laughing at hysterics who take the media and their panic outbursts seriously.
Calm down. The Arctic is just as cold and forbidding as ever and you would not like it there. Where did genteel urbanites like you get the idea that expanding polar ice towards the end of an interglacial would be an “improvement”, anyway?
So griff admits he cannot understand basic charts.
REAL DATA is “somehow” a misrepresentation of the state of the Arctic ..
Seriously ?????
You are a moronic anti-science twerp, griff.
“given that we have lowest extent and volume for this time of year”
LIAR !!
DMI has volume 5th lowest volume since 2003
And, of course, both extent and volume were MUCH lower before the ANOMALOUSLY COLD Little Ice Age.
Also much less in the MWP, RWP, and in fact MUCH LESS for probably the first 9000 year of the 10,000 year Holocene
You are a manic CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER, griff.
Do you DENY that the LIA was the COLDEST anomaly in the whole interglacial.?
Do you DENY that the late 1970s was the COLDEST period in the Arctic regions since probably 1900?
Do you DENY that for much of the growth of human civilisation, temperatures have been considerably warmer than now.?
Simple yes or no to each, griff.
Try to be TRUTHFUL for once in your pitiful, meaningless life.
Then you can put forward that paper that proves empirically that enhanced atmospheric CO2 does ANYTHING except enhance plant growth
We are all still waiting for you to overcome your incompetence.
Griff is an embarrassment to humanity, but I get the feeling it is being paid to do so.
Ms Griff is a cancer, she helps kill millions annually.
‘Griff is an embarrassment to humanity, but I get the feeling it is being paid to do so.’
It is clearly a job.
If not, it is clearly a nut job.