The Climate Control Knob

Sunspot Numbers – Maunder Minimum – Wikipedia

Prior to the widespread adoption of the superstition that a 0.0001 mole fraction increase in CO2 over the past century controls the climate, scientists took a more rational approach.

Completely blank sun.  April 28, 2018

The first director of NCAR – Walter Orr Roberts – was a brilliant solar physicist. He understood that the sun controlled earth’s weather.

In 1973, Roberts predicted a drought based on sunspot cycles.

27 Sep 1973, Page 38 – El Paso Herald-Post at Newspapers.com

The drought occurred, exactly as he predicted.

climate-assessment-1981-1990.pdf

In 1951, Roberts discovered a critical relationship between solar activity and weather.

22 Sep 1951 – SUN’S EFFECT ON THE EARTH

In 1967, National Geographic understood that the sun controls glaciers.

National Geographic : 1967 Feb, Page 194

In 1931, meteorologists were certain about the relationship between sunspots and the weather.

TimesMachine: July 2, 1931 – NYTimes.com

In 1936, the Australian Medical Congress was certain about the relationship between sunspots and natural disasters.

28 Jan 1936 – SUNSPOTS – Trove

In 1932, scientists showed a close correspondence between sunspot cycles and past climate.

12 Dec 1932, 12 – The Atlanta Constitution at Newspapers.com

In 1994, astronomers showed a correlation between the length of sunspot cycles and Earth’s temperature.

08 Apr 1994 – Sunspots linked to global warming – Trove

The relationship between sunspots and grain prices has long been known.

10 Aug 1886 – Sunspots and Grain Prices. – Trove

This idea was first proposed by British astronomer William Herschel in 1801, and confirmed 200 years later.

Sun set food prices in the Middle Ages : Nature News

Scientists now claim that a 0.0001 mole fraction increase in CO2 over the past century controls the climate.  This is because the Sun can’t be controlled, scientists can’t pretend they know how to prevent bad weather, and politicians can’t use sunspots as an excuse to raise taxes and control energy policy.

The 1:10,000 increase in atmospheric CO2 over the past century is equivalent to packing an extra two people into Madison Square Garden

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31 Responses to The Climate Control Knob

  1. Robertv says:

    Great monuments like pyramids and cathedrals can only be built in the land of milk and honey when daily survival is not the problem and you can plan 100 years or longer in advance.

    And in those days people even didn’t understand how BIG this little star is in comparison with Earth.

  2. Griff says:

    yes the sun is a major influence on climate climate… except it isn’t now the only climate driver. Human CO2 now has an additional overriding effect…

    Let me refer you to your favourite website to point out a new Maunder would barely dent the current warming
    https://www.skepticalscience.com/grand-solar-minimum-mini-ice-age-intermediate.htm

    • AndyG55 says:

      “Human CO2 now has an additional overriding effect…”

      ARRANT BULLS**T

      There is ZERO empirical evidence that enhanced atmospheric CO2 does anything except enhance plant growth.

      CO2 warming is a load of ANTI-PHYSICS GIGO !!

    • Anon says:

      /CO2 now has an additional overriding effect/ – so Griff has been “told”

      /would barely dent/ – the Future – models can’t even reproduce the past, without modification of the data and now we are “told” they are ALL running too hot.

      As far as the skepticalscience website goes – it all hangs on the 97% Cook consensus – as that is bogus, (measuring repression and Political Correctness under the Obama Administration) – so, until they correct that, a website like skepticalscience is just basically a Globalist propaganda outlet. You can’t publish one deceptive article and then believe your other articles will be taken at face value. Once you have discovered a lie, one would be wise to be skeptical about everything else on the website.

    • GW Smith says:

      John Cook is not one I would go to for back-up if you want to sway people here.

    • Colorado Wellington says:

      Skeptical Science, eh? What other astrology websites do you read, Ms Griff?

    • Disillusioned says:

      Now I know Griff is purposefully choosing ignorance.

      • Disillusioned says:

        Two posts just disappeared after hitting Post Comment

      • Gator says:

        The weak minded seek out confirmation of their thoughts, unlike the rest of us who challenge our own ideas, ensuring we do not follow errant ideals.

        Ms Griff truly hates poor brown people, and propaganda sites like SkS enable this hatred under the guise of caring for the planet. SkS will always be her go to site as long as they support her agenda, no matter how many times their postings are shown to be completely false.

    • Texas sharp-shooter says:

      Shouldn’t we err on the side of caution? We could call it “The precautionary principle.” Civilization has done well during warm periods, poorly during cooling, you know, bubonic plague, starvation, fall of empires, and so forth. So why take a chance? Let’s turn the amp up to 11 and try to fit 3 extra people into the Garden.

    • Gerald Machnee says:

      Griff
      **Let me refer you to your favourite website to point out a new Maunder would barely dent the current warming**
      When you have some real science, Griff, let us know. However, if that location humors you, it is OK with us, but do not bother quoting nonsense from there.
      Remember, we cannot post real science there, so you got what you got, so enjoy the funnies while you can.

    • Fred ohr says:

      Griff,
      They assume a climate sensitivity that cannot be documented by real world observation. Moreover, Monckton has severely critiqued model sensitivities. If the real response to doubling CO 2 proves to be only 1.5-1.8C and not 3C, then a
      .3C reduction in temps due to Maunder Minimum becomes relatively much more significant.

    • Robertv says:

      ‘Human CO2 now has an additional overriding effect…’

      The Sun calls time on topless models after 44 years

      https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/19/has-the-sun-axed-page-3-topless-pictures

  3. Texas sharp-shooter says:

    There should be a Stephen Maturin award for “fighting naturalists” and you should win the prize Sir Tony. You have proven yourself to be “prickly and difficult to eradicate.” The prize, a life-size solid plastic statue of Richard Feynman (an ideal Carbon sink so we don’t have to jam those two extra people into MSG. Tippng point don’cha know), a G5 airplane and lots of money.

  4. arn says:

    Well-who would have thought that the only energy provider of a system
    that does not exist without energy
    is the dominant force of this system :)

    Well – not those people who thought 3 decades ago that an irrellevant molecule
    called cfc that was released in irrellevant numbers and mostly in the usa and europe would instantly start to travel(by the use of marvellous superpowers)) to the poles((most of it to the southpole,as the hole is bigger there, tens of thousands miles aways)) to destroy the ozon layer there(and not at above those regions the gas is released.
    The gas is no more-the holes are still there.

    Now imagine a world that is covered with climate gas h2o.
    An increase in sun energy would increase the release of climate gas h2o by millions more tons a year-an incredible runaway effect ((that never happened,because things don’t work that way)).

    But how could an irrellevant and weak climate gas co2 become the prominant
    villain superstar then??

    By the way they talk about it.
    The trick is simple.
    They ignore the elephant in the room
    while they blame the mosquito on the wall for the big pile of poo in the middle of the room.
    That’s how the star responsible for 99%+ of our energy and therefore our climate
    was treated like a mosquito
    and a 0.01% man made co2 became a giant mammoth.

    When one reads the ipcc papers one will find out that only a handfull out of thousands pages(maybe 0.01%) is about the sun
    the rest is about/or somehow related to co2.
    Pure willingfull Ignorance on one side
    and perpetual PR and cry wolf on the other side.

    Result-
    the coming drought that will be result of the lack of sunspots
    will be blamed on co2.

  5. Richard Greene says:

    Using the Maunder Minimum
    means minimal temperature data
    are available to back up any claims,
    although there is lots of anecdotal reports
    of unusually cold weather during that minimum.

    But ignoring the three other Little Ice Age
    minimums would be cherry picking.

    The three OTHER minimums
    during the Little Ice Age
    did not have much anecdotal
    evidence of unusual cold.

    And there was some unusual cold LIA
    weather between the four minimums
    not linked to sunspot counts.

    The four minimums during
    the Little Ice Age add up to
    weak evidence that the sun
    controls the climate.

    The lack of any 11 year temperature cycle
    related to sunspots is further
    evidence the sun is not the
    “climate controller”.

    It’s easy to believe the sun controls
    the average temperature but the
    evidence so far is weak.

    Of course the evidence that CO2
    controls the average temperature
    is weak too.

    I believe the right answer
    is “we don’t know what controls
    the climate” (other than the very
    long term climate changes
    from planetary geometry)

  6. John Westman says:

    Ignorance is a wonderful state to be in Ms Griff.
    You do not carry the cares of the world on your shoulders; you do not have to think or become educated-just parrot the mantras, and hey presto, you know everything about the world.
    You are now an “expert”-so easy!
    Has anyone ever calculated the density of some human brains?

  7. John F. Hultquist says:

    It is rumored that Mayer Hillman and Griff have never been seen at the same time.

    Another rumor is that with all the extra CO2 in the air, this year, or maybe next, is the ‘Year of the Ripe Tomato.”
    What a blessing that CO2 stuff is!

  8. Brad says:

    Hottest april ever in warschau and ive seen bulgaria too. Some east europe city’s breaking all time hottest records, all because of CO2 haha. But they seem to miss the very cold north america, spain and north africa…

    • Robertv says:

      They will use ‘warmest ever’ when they mean the last 40 years when we know there was a next ice age scare at the end of the seventies.

  9. Mark Fife says:

    Meanwhile, the weather continues apace down here in the sunny south. However, they are forecasting the return of climate any day now. They said climate was supposed to have arrived today, no doubt behind a climate front coming up from the gulf. So far, and it is 3:00 in the afternoon here, weather is holding on stubbornly. They haven’t revised their forecast, despite climate’s lateness in getting here.

    Of course they say a lot of things. I am of the firm belief they are actually a room full of monkeys playing on typewriters somewhere in the bowels of the CNN headquarters. There are probably several sets of theys in similar locations throughout the US and the world. While they have as yet produced not one bit of Shakespeare, they have produced a great deal of useless but nonetheless used drivel. Much of which has no doubt found its way into Amy Schumer’s comedy. Whatever CNN, MSNBC, or other rejects as not news worthy.

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