Global Warming Targeting Switzerland

Global warming has long targeted women and children of color, but it now plans to go after Switzerland too.

Global warming to impact Switzerland at twice average speed, researcher warns

Your SUV has been melting Swiss glaciers for over a century.

22 Aug 1935 – GLACIERS WON’T BE LONG – Trove

11 Feb 1915, Page 3 – Mexico Missouri Message at Newspapers.com

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54 Responses to Global Warming Targeting Switzerland

  1. ЯΞ√ΩLUT↑☼N says:

    If by “global warming” they mean Muslims.. Yep.

    • Griff says:

      A stupid and ignorant remark.

      • Stewart Pid says:

        Said Griff, village idiot & expert in stupid comments!

      • spike55 says:

        Oh look, griffool puts a heading to his post..

        And then.. EMPTY.

        Typical griffool. !

      • arn says:

        As an Englishmen,Mr Ed Griff ,you should be very well aware of
        the systematic organised racist childrape committed by muslims and sugarcoated with the Word grooming
        the overall increase in Rape or that Acid attacks are the new normal.
        Or that since many years muslim children are 50%++ of all handicapped born children in britain as result of incest.

        Or stabbing,which they(MSM,politicians)blame asians for
        (in Europe they call them Southerners)
        though everyone knows it is muslims.

        Or to quote Winston Churchill who lived several years
        in the orient:”Islam is to men what rabies are to dogs”

        He was spot on with all his comments btw.

        • Griff says:

          Yes, there are such crimes. And they are horrible. But restricted to a minority of the muslim population… and not unique to it.

          Every day I meet and work with muslims who are tolerant, law abiding and thoroughly British.

          Perhaps you need to get out more and meet more people, rather than repeating rote racist nonsense.

          • Gator says:

            There were Nazis who were tolerant, law abiding and thoroughly German.

            Perhaps you need to get out more and meet more people, rather than repeating rote racist nonsense.

          • Spiritus Mundi says:

            I’m going to go with a blanket statement and say that anyone who thinks a child rapist is a prophet of god is not a good person.

        • Colorado Wellington says:

          See their faces, arn, they are all happy. And their tolerant imams let them choose western fashion. Just look at all the fashionable spring colors!

  2. Klaus Berger says:

    This movie is from Austria, not Switzerland.

  3. Dave N says:

    The *artificial* lake pictured in that lenews article is regularly drained of all water in late winter/early spring before the snow up higher melts (clearly it is winter because the tree has no leaves). But hey, why let a misleading photo get in the way of alarmism?

  4. Griff says:

    Well of course it is affecting Switzerland:
    https://qz.com/1223017/swiss-residents-are-wrapping-glaciers-in-blankets-to-keep-them-from-melting/

    Klaus is quite right: the sound of Music is set in/filmed in Salzburg Austria. Where paradoxically the locals have never seen it: it wasn’t shown there till very recently, they have no idea what the hordes of tourists are chasing after.

    • Rah says:

      No reason to “chase” anything. The whole area from southern Bavaria over into Austria, and down through the Brenner into Sud Tirol is all gorgeous.

    • spike55 says:

      Poor griffool.

      Ignorance of cycles and history yet again

      • Griff says:

        and if now they retreat rapidly and faster than in previous times and the main driver is climate change….

        • Gator says:

          Faster than which times Ms Griff? Faster than during the height of the last glaciation? Nope. But certainly not faster than at the end of the LIA.

          … and the main driver is climate change….

          Is it your hatred of poor brown people that makes you say this kind of stupid crap?

        • pmc47025 says:

          Please try again. Include logic, coherence, precise terminology, and a point.

        • Robertv says:

          Isn’t the main driver ALWAYS changing climate ?

        • Lasse says:

          Griff has a point!
          Climate change is real.
          Climate change due to mankind perhaps but not due to CO2.
          Dimming (1950-1980) and then brightening since then.
          It is the sun shining more hours and giving us more energy.

        • spike55 says:

          Imagination playing havoc with your tiny mind, yet again , griffool ??.

          Many of those glaciers didn’t exist or were much smaller in the MWP.

          Has there been some melting after the anomalous COLD of the LIA..

          of course, but it started long before any possible human instance, and was actually fastest in the period 1920-1940.

          If you REALLY want to go back to LIA conditions and forego the massive benefits of the natural warming since… then move to Siberia.

        • spike55 says:

          Get some perspective, griffool !!

          Learn about something a bit bigger than your insignificant existence.

        • spike55 says:

          By the way, griffool,

          Have you found ANY scientific evidence that atmospheric CO2 causes warming , yet?

          Or are you still your normal empty sack of ****

          Just like every other AGW “apologist” when asked for actual empirical evidence.

          • Griff says:

            sure. Masses of it.

            And you too can access the wonderful world of scientific evidence if you just leave off reading these political blogs…

          • spike55 says:

            “Masses of it.”

            ROFLMAO….. AGW apologists all say that..

            but are NEVER able to actually PRODUCE any.

            Why are you TOTALLY UNABLE to produce one tiny little piece of this “evidence” griffool ;-).

            Bluster and fantasy is NOT scientific proof , griffool. But you KNOW that it is all you have.

            PRODUCE EMPIRICAL PROOF or STFU !!

  5. Anon says:

    /Twice the average rate/

    The first thing I would do is check for a Math Error:

    Major Math Error Puts Widely-Cited Global Warming Study On Ice

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-07/major-math-error-puts-widely-cited-global-warming-study-ice

    Holy F_uck is all I have to say. Princeton-Scripps-Nature… For any non-scientist here, you probably don’t realize the significance of this. When you peer review in the basic fundamental sciences, at bare minimum you always check the author’s calculations before signing off on the paper.

    It appears all they did here was check the grammar before allowing this to be published in the world’s most prestigious scientific journal and then sounding the alarm through the world’s best (ahem) media organizations.

    I can remember back in the 1980s when Pons & Fleischman claimed that they achieved bench-top Cold Fusion; when the results could not be duplicated, their careers were over. The retraction of a Nature article used to have career altering consequences. Now it is a joke…

    Watch what happens here, their results have probably already been incorporated into CIMP5 and they will all get a pat on the back – with a reminder from Phil Jones to never release the data upon which they build their calculations.

    If it takes Roger Pielke Jr. a couple of hours to debunk the work, it indicates a GRAVE problem with the CAGW peer review process. This was no innocent mistake, but negligence, scientific malpractice at the highest level, from both the researches and the reviewers… and possibly fraud.

    It is bad enough that I have to now fact check the BBC and New York Times… but now I have to fact check Nature also. WTF!

    /Twice the average rate?/rolmao!

    • Gator says:

      I wish I could say I am surprised, but this is par for the course, and not just in climate science. Just visit retractionwatch.com and see for yourself.

      The peer of a fraud is a fraud.

      I have had no substantive response from her, despite subsequently sending a further email containing the key analysis sections from a draft of this article.”

      Likely because the math is over their heads.

      • Anon says:

        Hi Gator,

        Just to illustrate how egregious this is, do this thought experiment.

        Imagine that Tony Heller & Willie Soon got together and submitted a paper to Nature with the exact same methodology the Resplandy, etal. used and the Heller-Soon study showed that the Oceans were absorbing 60% less heat than was currently believed.

        I guarantee, it would not have taken more than hour to debunk Heller & Soon here. But because the conclusion of Resplandy etal. gave the politically correct and desired inflection, it was not even examined.

        • Gator says:

          Correct. As long as the conclusion of the paper is pro CAGW, it will sail through pal review. And if it isn’t?

          “I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!”
          -Phil Jones

    • arn says:

      One does not need to be an expert to realise that major math errors are the modus operandi in AGW.

      Whenever data is to be adjusted in an unbiased way
      the chance is always 50:50 wether it will get adjusted up or down.
      Even a 60:40 to whatever side would be a huge anomaly in the long run inside such a system

      But somehow inside global warming the adjustment is almost 100% up as endresult.
      (they throw a bone to us from time to time
      to have an excuse/proof that they do not ALWAYS adjust up,
      but that’s just a strategical preemptive excuse from them)

      • Anon says:

        Arn,

        That is a really good point and one that has bothered me about the Climate Models. All of them overestimate the amount of warming. Now think about a spaghetti model of a Hurricane path, they are all over the place, and generally provide a “cone area” of potential landfall.

        One would expect to see the same from climate models. Some getting the predictions right, some over or underestimating the warming and some that predict no warming and possibly even cooling.

        Now suppose you were a researcher with a model that predicted a cooling trend. Where do you think you would be right now? Would you have any research money, or even a career?

        We are now at the ludicrous point of a Hurricane having made landfall in Charleston while the models insist the landfall was in New York. (And the CAGW researchers are furiously trying to alter this reality by adjusting the climate data to fit the models.)

    • spike55 says:

      Thing is, That if you look at the graph, you can see it is steeper at the start than at the end.

      The Linear fit is not particularly good.. why always assumptions of linearity anyway?

      A second order fit would clearly show the DECELERATION of the heat gain

  6. Gator says:

    I have scanned the comments section of the article to which Tony linked, and I cannot find a single comment from Ms Griff, or Phil, about how alarmists are using a grossly misleading photo to further their wild claims. I thought Phil was a champion for truth and accuracy.

    The waters of Lake Gruyere reservoir in Switzerland are lowered annually as the spring snowmelt approaches in the Alpine country, as reported in dramatic aerial images made available by epa Wednesday.

    https://www.efe.com/efe/english/technology/bird-s-eye-view-of-swiss-reservoir-offers-unique-lake-bed/50000267-3552974

    The grounded boat has nothing to do with any form of climate change, except annual climate change. Surely Phil will be along any minute to correct this gross error by le News.

    • Phil. says:

      Just saw this article for the first time, puzzled why an article about Switzerland has scenes from an Austrian movie and what relevance the dry lake bed had.

      • Gator says:

        Have you corrected the author yet? I’m not seeing a comment from you Phil. And maybe you fell asleep before the movie ended, but the Von Trapp family escaped Austria and landed in Switzerland.

        You are a nit picking, cherry picking joke Phil.

        • spike55 says:

          “nits” is the only thing phool’s tiny mind can cope with.

        • Phil. says:

          And maybe you fell asleep before the movie ended, but the Von Trapp family escaped Austria and landed in Switzerland.

          Didn’t sleep through the movie but I did sleep in their house in Salzburg a few years ago. Another fact you have got wrong is that they left on the train to Italy not Switzerland and ended up in Vermont by way of the UK.

          • Gator says:

            You are a liar Phill, my facts are not wrong. In the movie they escaped from Austria by crossing into Switzerland.

            Why are you such a shithead Phil?

            PS – My family is from Salzburg.

          • Phil. says:

            Gator you do understand that the movie is fiction don’t you? Actually as I said they left by train to Italy (from Aigen station, just down the road from their house, ask your family). By the way the movie shows them crossing into Germany! (As pointed out by Colorado Wellington, Berchtesgaden.) Walking to Switzerland would have been a long walk from Salzburg, over 100 miles!

          • Gator says:

            Once again, the Joker moves the goal posts…

            puzzled why an article about Switzerland has scenes from an Austrian movie

            We were discussing the “movie”, per your bitch-picking Phil.

            This is what makes you a joke Phil, you cannot win an argument without cheating, and then you still lose. LOL

            Find another blog to troll Phil, your time here is wasted as we have all properly identified you as a large and unfunny joke.

          • Phil. says:

            Once again, the Joker moves the goal posts…

            “puzzled why an article about Switzerland has scenes from an Austrian movie”

            We were discussing the “movie”, per your bitch-picking Phil.

            As I said it’s what I termed an Austrian movie, it’s about an Austrian family, set in Austria and the scenery is Austrian (with the exception of some hills in Germany). Which is why I found it weird to use those scenes in a post about Switzerland. Having visited Strazburg and stayed in the Von Trapp villa and what I know about the family reinforces that view. That you prefer to refer to a fictitious movie scene purporting to be in Switzerland which was actually impossible is rather odd.

          • Gator says:

            In spite of your best hand waving Phil, you remain a joke, constantly moving goalposts to support your childish bitching.

            Find a new hobby, you suck at this.

      • Colorado Wellington says:

        What Austrian movie? Never been to Berchtesgaden?

        So a Schmarrn, du Saupreiß, du österreichischer.

      • Gator says:

        Once again, the Joker moves the goal posts…

        puzzled why an article about Switzerland has scenes from an Austrian movie

        We were discussing the “movie”, per your bitch-picking Phil.

        This is what makes you a joke Phil, you cannot win an argument without cheating, and then you still lose. LOL

        Find another blog to troll, your time here is wasted as we have all properly identified you as a large and unfunny joke.

    • Griff says:

      On the other hand, you could find plenty of pictures of the Danube around Budapest at record low levels last month due to (wait for it!) climate change

  7. Steven Fraser says:

    And, on a rainfall note (La!)… With Thursday’s DFW rainfall (.29″), 2018 total to date is 51.18″, passing 1938 (51.03″) to become the #3 all-time DFW rainfall year.

    The #2 year (1991) is 2.36″ away.

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