Had Exxon’s leadership been using their brains, they would have financed skeptical scientists who had been cut off Al Gore. Instead they fed the green crocodile and are now its next intended meal. They could have established a large body of evidence that government climatologists are political hacks, not scientists.
But the good news is that I have done their job for them. In the 1970’s, our top government climatologists were worried about global cooling, not global warming.
11 Jul 1974, Page 1 – at Newspapers.com
After the PDO shift in 1976, they began to detect warming and started shifting to the global cooling bandwagon but there was no agreement. Schneider said :
This is a game of values, not so much a game of science…. science can not give certain answers about the future.
MIT professor Jule Charney summed it up quite succinctly.
I don’t think we can predict climate now, and I wouldn’t trust anyone who said he could…. Anyone who says he can tell you more than a few days in advance what the weather is going to be, is practicing necromancy.
There is overwhelming evidence that government funded climate scientists are incompetent political hacks who tamper with data to jack up their failed theories. Exxon needs to pull themselves together and mount an aggressive defense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei-_SXLMMfo
At around the 5 minute mark is when a glacier expert talks about the drop in temps over north.
John Daly examined Schneider in detail, the site is still maintained:
http://www.john-daly.com/schneidr.htm:
Schneider S. & Rasool S., “Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols – Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate”, Science, vol.173, 9 July 1971, p.138-141
“We report here on the first results of a calculation in which separate estimates were made of the effects on global temperature of large increases in the amount of CO2 and dust in the atmosphere. It is found that even an increase by a factor of 8 in the amount of CO2, which is highly unlikely in the next several thousand years, will produce an increase in the surface temperature of less than 2 deg. K.
However, the effect on surface temperature of an increase in the aerosol content of the atmosphere is found to be quite significant. An increase by a factor of 4 in the equilibrium dust concentration in the global atmosphere, which cannot be ruled out as a possibility within the next century, could decrease the mean surface temperature by as much as 3.5 deg. K. If sustained over a period of several years, such a temperature decrease could be sufficient to trigger an ice age!”
This could be a big moment if Exxon/Mobil actually puts up a fight. All of what is talked about here would come out in Federal Court in New York City. That is exactly why it will never happen, this is not to be taken seriously and is merely a political sop; I can’t even call it a grandstand because nothing will ever come of it.
So the Witch Hunts begin.
If Exxon settles out of court (which they will) or if it drags on for years (Think Dr Tim Ball and Mark Steyn) The damage is done. Now a precedence has been set that if you open your mouth to ‘deny the CAGW religion’ we will BANKRUPT YOU IN COURT!!!!
Additionally RICO (the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) has “Those found guilty of racketeering can be fined up to $25,000 and sentenced to 20 years in prison per racketeering count. In addition, the racketeer must forfeit all ill-gotten gains and interest in any business gained through a pattern of “racketeering activity.” — WIKI
Gail, It’s becoming obvious that all of Tony’s and most others good work on the dissent side is getting us nowhere. Just in our country we have the MSM, the dumbasses in the WH, most of the dumbasses in congress plus many of our local elected officials working to build a case against us. Then we have the dumbasses in the public who think they know everything AND the true dumbasses who actually know nothing, all rooting for the case makers…I kinda know what the folks at the Alamo and Dien Bien Phu felt like.
Somehow, and we’ve got to begin to more effectively neutralize those bastards, the loudest first, until we get the odds a bit more even. To determine just how to do that is way above my pay grade, my energy level and my financial ability to help.
I can see it now…the sun gradually morphs into a solar minimum similar to the Maunder Minimum of the late 1600’s, the world is unable to feed everybody and chaos reigns supreme, ALL because the dumbasses of the world had everybody leaning the wrong way.
Keep your powder dry!
Well put.
I am firmly convinced that the Movers and Shakers took the Global cooling warning to heart and have been shifting assets to the south in preparation for major cooling since the 1970s. They also want to make darn sure the rest of us can not follow them. Hence no transportation except public and a very timid and dependent population plus the introduction of carnivores, wolves coyotes, jaguars and “Pleistocene rewilding [that] has already begun in North America….”. (Also see the Rewilding Institute and their PDF ) Then add in Transit villages (Green dots- normal use) and “Wildlands” (Red) and Restricted (yellow)
http://lh3.ggpht.com/-7AqeEhd0FJ0/T8KeVcDrsVI/AAAAAAAANk0/8VYCpWRGn-k/wildlands-map-2010_Merrit_thumb%25255B1%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800
Think about it. When did we start getting major regulations crippling the US economy? The 1970s. When did the socialists really gear up their brain washing? The 1970s.
When did the Malthusians like Holdren and Erhlich start pedaling their Population bomb crap? The 1970s. the EU, Canada, the USA and Australia all have level to negative population growth as a result.
E.M. Smith has a few of good blogs on Demographics:
Killing Women or Importing Men?
Thorium, China, India, PIIGS Demographics
China, Debt, Demographics
There is a lot more like that such as the land grab in Africa and Latin America, and the transfer of US and EU manufacturing to India, China and Brazil.
Then there are the present wars in the middle east. Let the Islamists get really really uppity let them spread to the EU and USA and get in your face and then you have a really really good excuse for genocide — think the Holocaust. (War on terrorism and the rest) This wipes out a large portion of humans in the middle east and Africa and also gets rid of a lot of Americans and Europeans into the bargain.
It also explains why no matter what facts are tossed at the head of the ClimAstrologists and politicians the march to a World Government and the stripping of assets from the EU and USA continues with the blessing of those IN the EU and USA. It explains the insane policies of the EU and USA towards a religion that hates all but their own kind and even then they kill each other.
The other explanation of course is our leaders are all stark raving mad. Either way we lose.
I have no idea who you are or what your agenda is, but you have no idea what you are talking about.
Tony, the key is what was happening around the early 1970s along with the fact we know the government & MSM LIES. Remember that was the time period when Shackleton and Hays and others were validating the Milancovitch Cycles.
In I972 the First Earth Summit was chaired by Maurice Strong.
Why was he talking of GLOBAL WARMING in 1972?
After all the 1974 CIA report you have linked to was talking about the problems caused by cold weather in the early seventies. That just doesn’t make sense unless the elite either had a much better idea of weather cycles than we think (Gleissberg was already published) or they were really dishing out the propaganda to confuse the public.
And Tony,
I toss out the coming glaciation mainly to tick-off the rabid Warmists.
Which way it flops is up in the air (from the papers I have read) and dependent on a lot of other stuff besides Solar Insolation at 65N.
I don’t think we can predict climate now, and I wouldn’t trust anyone who said he could…. Anyone who says he can tell you more than a few days in advance what the weather is going to be, is practicing fraud.
James Delingpole exposes WHO was behind the lynching of EXXON
Exposed: The Green Activists Who Cooked Up The RICO Conspiracy Against Big Oil
http://michellemalkin.com/2015/11/03/go-figure-exxon-stopped-fueling-the-clinton-foundation-around-the-time-hillary-called-for-its-investigation/
Obama Expected to Reject Construction of Keystone
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/us/obama-expected-to-reject-construction-of-keystone-xl-oil-pipeline.html?_r=0
And the sun rises in the east… 🙂
http://pre00.deviantart.net/8907/th/pre/i/2015/125/f/4/dragon_and_rising_sun_by_kluv8-d1onmsa.jpg
The Sun is rising in the East indeed thanks to the traitors Bill Clinton and Al Gore
I really wish ordinary citizens had the ability to bring charges of treason against these people.
I’m glad someone else remembers Bubba’s contributions to the economy. He may be responsible for more jobs being created than any one else in history… IN CHINA.
Does anyone else remember Ross Perot’s “giant sucking sound?” But he was just crazy. The idea that America could lose a third of it’s manufacturing jobs in only 10 years is just absurd.
https://macromon.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/u-s-employment-in-manufacturing.jpg
“And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast. And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?” And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. … ”
Apocalypse (“Revelations”) 13
666 = Carbon dioxide? 6 protons, electrons, neutrons. Carbon currency = Mark of the Beast?
Only half-joking!
“And I saw a beast rising out of the sea,”
Satellite photos obtained by The Post show that China has continued the construction of military bases on several man-made islands
…….
“with ten horns and seven heads,”
Brics countries launch new development bank in Shanghai and Australia Enters Direct Currency Trading Agreement With China and US frets as major EU powers join new China-led ‘World Bank’
B = Brazil
R = Russia
I = India
C = China
S = SouthAfrica
Plus the EU and Australia = 7
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“with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads.”
BRICS countries in the top ten gold producing countries and in the top ten for gold reserves as is most of the EU, China, Russia, India and Japan.
…….
“And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. “
Leopard = Brazil
Bear = Russia
Lion = South Africa
Dragon = China
The first head of the [BRICS] Bank is noted Indian banker K V Kamath.
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“One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, “
Brazil’s economy tanks as multibillion-dollar corruption scandal expands
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“and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast. And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?” “
Bill Gates: Only Socialism Can Save Us From Climate Change: “Representative democracy” has failed; the private sector is “inept”; and only bigger government – led by China and the US – has the power to save the world from climate change.
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“And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words,”
catholicvote.org: Rumbling and Blundering about Papal Climate Change….
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“and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. … “
Forty-two months is three and 1/2 years from now. That is after the next US election and about time for the UN to flex it’s muscles and DEMAND tribute from the USA and for Global Cooling to set in with a vengence with failed crops and spiraling cost of food.
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Interesting isn’t it? And I am an agnostic!
Well put, Gail and All, I think I would just give up if I didn’t know from this blog that some wisdom and common sense along with extraordinary intelligence still exists. I am about a third of the way through our friend Kent Clizbe’s book. _Willing Accomplices_. I actually don’t even have to finish it to know he is right about where and how political correctness -P.C. – and the opposition to any kind of dissent started. I think it was the early 80’s when I dropped memberships in Sierra Club, National G., Defenders of Wildlife, etc. I feel like a sucker now, but I did finally realize how skewed their “science”, policies and philosophies were. Having been a voting Democrat since I came of age (never voted a straight ticket, however, until my first protest! votes in 2010 and 2012). I became a Republican (We can’t seem to count on them either.) very shortly after the 2008 election when I saw what “we the people” had wrought. With only a few exceptions, all of you here give me comfort, if not a lot of hope. Hoping for early December blizzards in Paris!!!
We can show our support to Exxon. I just sent a short e-mail
CONTACT INFO for Exxon:
http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/company/contact-us
I am also using the internet to look up all the Exxon stations in my operating area to make DARN SURE I buy my fuel from Exxon and not from the traitors – Shell Oil or B.P.
http://www.exxonmobilstations.com/
Written by Naomi Oreskes:
“The New McCarthyism: How the Fear of Socialism Fuels America’s Climate Denial” – http://www.alternet.org/enviro…
What is AlterNet.org? The home of Max Blumenthal, Sidney Blumenthal’s son.
Kinda makes emails between Sidney and Hillary pertinent when you consider Sidney is asking Hillary to meet with the emir of Qatar who, who supports the Libyan civil war, the Syrian civil war…AND the Qatari emir also happens to be invested in the same green energy companies alongside Kleiner Perkins (Al Gore’s employer) who also donate to and run Obama and Hillary’s campaigns, along with the Qatari emir also buying CurrentTV from Al Gore.
How peculiar.
Ted, this chart is by the Bureau of Labor Stats who is known for painting rosy pictures….
https://macromon.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/u-s-employment-in-manufacturing.jpg
(I stripped the URL of everything after (dot)jpg to make it easier to see)
Oh, come on Gail. How could you possibly have a problem with the government’s numbers? The Ministry of Truth says everything is double plus good right now. Didn’t they just announce that Obama personally created 12 trillion jobs last month, or something like that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAyBRec0q-I
Yes, the official numbers seem like they might, on occasion, be just a bit on the rosy end of the scale. I started machining in 1998. Between immigration, and the trade policies of Papa Bush/Bubba/Junior/Obammy, a starting machinist today makes about a dollar an hour less than back then, in nominal terms. About 40% less in real terms, and that continues all the way to the top of the scale. The last time I went looking for a job was in 2008. At 32 years old, I was competing against men twice my age, for jobs that paid what those guys made back in the 80’s.
Thanks for the URL tip. I’ll try to remember that one.
Little Ice Age – Obama’s Dream world
Famines, plagues, wars. The Church blamed it on witches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c01LM466og4
The U.S. government fined VW $18 billion dollars. If Exxon does not cooperate, I’m sure the government will fine Exxon in an unprecedented fashion for abstract reasons. If Exxon does fight, good for them. The court battle will be long and cost tax payers billions. The government is obsessed with ‘proving’ global warming, which means they are losing the PR battle. Awesome! Way to go everyone!