They told us for decades that land temperatures heat up faster than the ocean.
Then land temperatures quit rising, and the scumbags started claiming that all the heat is now going into warming the oceans.
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They told us for decades that the poles will heat first. When they saw that the south pole was not heating, they decided Australia was close enough.
Your just jealous Mike. Continental drift only split Australia from Antarctica a short while ago so near enough should be good enough. 😀
According to Earth Matters, we only just squeak in to the top 10 despite some amazing measurements! 156.7 effin degrees F!!! Makes me proud to be an Aussie. Most poisonous snake, most poisonous spider, longest +100F Heatwave, big MoFo sharks and crocodiles and now heat that will Fry Your Eyeballs!!! Death Valley should be renamed “slightly off color with a tummy upset Valley”!!
“In 2003 — a year of particularly severe drought due to the 2002 El Niño-Southern Oscillation — a NASA satellite equipped with MODIS picked up a land surface temperature of 156.7 degrees Fahrenheit in the so-called Badlands of the Queensland Outback.”
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/climate-weather/photos/10-of-the-hottest-places-on-earth/australias-badlands
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. The Wizard from Omaha was really an Aussie.
Hey Andy, what precautions do you take to keep from getting tagged by a funnel web?
I’d be a little creeped out with those things running around the house.
Aussies have developed an immunity to funnel webs. Not so to stingrays and sharks. Too soon?
http://youtu.be/m-YWYdwcexU
Meanwhile on Saturday just gone another Aussie becomes shark bait.
http://youtu.be/kcRBOFElXsw
They told us that there would be a hotspot in the tropics’ troposphere. When there wasn’t, first they ignored it, then they changed the data and claimed to have “found” it.
http://joannenova.com.au/2010/10/is-the-western-climate-establishment-corrupt-part-9-the-heart-of-the-matter-and-the-coloring-in-trick/
“Scumbags” is putting it mildly.
They told us that 11 years of no warming would disprove AGW.
then they told us 13 years … whatever 🙂
Phil Jones said 15 years…
Santer?
said 17 years…
(Too lazy to go check)
This could be the year to tip the scale all the way back to 1995. You can bet Gavin is already cooking the books.
Here is a kicker.
They told us winters would be warmer with less snow.
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They are responsible for 65 deaths a day in winter in the UK alone. “Scumbags” is a polite term for these ….
They also lectured endlessly that more CO2 would lead to more heat, more hurricanes, more tornadoes, deeper droughts, more “acidic” oceans, more forest fires, accelerating sea-level rise, and any number of other, “unprecedented” (TM – the Team) calamities.
They’ve been dead-ass wrong on every one. But contrition is outside their skill-set.
As Steve McIntyre is fond of reminding, it’s important to keep your eye on the pea, not the thimbles.
They even got all that bass-ackwards. It’s cooling that causes storminess. A warm world is a placid world.
The ability of a heat engine to do work is proportional to the difference in temperature between the hot and cold reservoir.
Climate science predicts a smaller temperature difference, therefore less energy is available for their doomsday scenarios.
I guess their doomsday energy is super-efficient…
That’s not true. It’s the efficiency of a heat engine that’s proportional to the temperature difference between the hot and cold reservoirs. The amount of work done is a product of the efficiency and the heat input.
Australia voted the corrupt scumbags out in September.
Neither the Greens or Labor want anti corruption inquiry.
http://m.smh.com.au/comment/labor-and-greens-shout-no-no-no-to-ending-corruption-20140205-321gu.html
They have an incentive to be lying scumbags. The bigger the lie, the bigger the scare, the greater the fear mongering hyperbole, the more secure is their funding, the more attention they get from a useless, clueless and enabling media and they closer they get to the big fat pension and a nice soft life.
Link their pensions to the accuracy of their predictions and the problem is solved. These morons and scumbags would not dare do what they do now if there were consequences, real personal & financial consequences.
“The bigger the lie, the bigger the scare, the greater the fear mongering hyperbole, the more secure is their funding, the more attention they get from a useless, clueless and enabling media and they closer they get to the big fat pension and a nice soft life.”
We have identified the positive feedback loop.
Also Myles Allen, a UK climate scientist, now says climate sensitivity “actually doesn’t matter very much”.
See http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2014/1/28/ar5-hearings.html#comment20748500
And they say this after decades of claiming climate sensitivity is very high and very important.
What a load of bollocks! Climate sensitivity is at the absolute dead centre of the hypothesis. Without a large, positive climate sensitivity it is completely impossible for CAGWing to take place.
settled science
Normally I would be very skeptical of any climate announcements from Colorado State Uni via the Chicago Tribune. But the exception might prove the rule.
http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79195999/
If all the heat is collecting in the oceans, why have we gone so long without an El Nino?
Record increase in Antarctic Sea Ice and decadal increase in the winds that drive the the Antarctic Circumpolar Current. (more wind from Ozone, solar UV changes?)
If you look at this Sea Surface Temperature map it has a good image of the tongue of cold water from the Antarctic Circumpolar Current just before the constriction at Drake Passage, where it heads up the coast of South America to Galapagos.
Retired EPA scientist F.H. Haynie (he is one of the good guys) said:
“If I were asked to pick a single point on earth that most likely has the greatest effect on global weather and climate, it would be 0 and 90W (Galapagos). This is where El-nino winds, the deep sea Cromwell current, the Panama current, and the Humbolt current meet. These flows are not constant and each has different cycles and those cycles are not constant. Cycles on cycles create extremes in weather and climate. These extremes have an effect globally. I suspect these cycles are also controlling our observed atmospheric concentration of CO2. CO2 is very likely a lagging indicator and not a cause of climate change.”
I wonder what happens in a decade or two if the Antarctic Sea Ice starts blocking Drake Passage a bit more? Although some scientists suggest the Antarctic was 2-3C warmer during the LIA. [The Antarctic Circumpolar Ocean Current A review of its influence on global ocean currents and climate within Antarctica and Europe James S. B. Mason]
This article seems to indicate that the freezing of sea ice is the source of the cold water so that seems contrary to the other paper.
http://www.livescience.com/27390-antarctic-bottom-water-current-found.html
The James S.B. Mason paper has some intriguing bits:
Given the other paper’s work on the origin of the cold water feeding the current, I see no reason why the beginning of this paper states:
Although another paper Can we predict the duration of an interglacial? indicates the bipolar seesaw mark the beginning and end of interglacials.
Yes, they certainly have been “at it” to say the least. A long line of charlatans, kooks, and outright liars – here’s a good summary:
http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2014/02/04/a-historical-perspective-on-hysterical-rhetoric/
Overheated oceans now… do tell!
Actually that paper I mentioned above, link Shows that as more sea ice forms in the Antarctic the more cold water forms.
I think that trumps any piddling little ‘warmth’ from CO2 at 1.4 Wm2 for a change from 300 ppm to 390 ppm CO2.
Yes, the mechanism they proclaim is that CO2 absorbs radiation, turning it into heat, which heats the atmosphere, which IN TURN, heats the land and ocean. If there’s no heating of the atmosphere, it kinda foils their story.
This is going to be an unpopular view but I’m not sure the inflammatory language moves the debate along…
Hey Clovis! You may be right, but consider this: We know with a high degree of certainty that at least the upper tier of CAGW proponents are lying. Yes, “lying” is an inflammatory word, but the record of the last couple decades has shown a consistent pattern of altering data, threatening contrarians, interfering with publications, and misrepresenting historical events. “Lying” seems to me to be the best fit for the circumstances. These CAGW pushers have consistently refused to fairly and honestly present their case or to follow scientific procedures. If reason and sweet persuasion fail to influence someone who is pushing an idea which leads to poverty and death for millions of people, what should we do? Personally, I would prefer a gentlemanly debate based on the facts — but that has already proven to be a lost case against people who trample on facts. Ridicule, scorn and social shunning seem like the best approach that is available.
Now Jason, we mustn’t do anything that might injure the self esteem of lying scumbags. Firstly they are ‘truthfully challenged’, and secondly we owe them a debt of gratitude for gathering and sequestering so very much scum.
Remember, even Hitler was a human being, and had feelings. 😉
I agree. Steve is technically correct but his statement is not useful. It doesn’t advance the discussion to say we are dealing with scumbags any more than stepping into something in a park and saying we are dealing with dog poop.
There is useful inquiry to pursue. What are the root causes of dog poop in the park? What is the native culture of the dog’s companion? Was social justice served? And most importantly, how do our actions and thoughts affect the rights of children?
I refuse to speak about foreign scumbags. They come from different cultures that we don’t understand and that are equal or superior to ours. On average, foreign scumbags also use fewer natural resources than American scumbags. Let’s limit our talk to Scumbag-Americans only.
Ever adult American scumbag was once a child. What do we know about their upbringing? Little or nothing. Most of them were probably little scumbags even then. They had to be to confront the social conditions of their lives. If mom and dad denied them candy because of their own failed upbringing, the little scumbags had no choice. They had to lie, cheat and steal to get their candy. We can’t judge them and we can’t judge adult scumbags either.
There. It feels good to say the right thing in the morning.
What can you judge then Colorado?
Actually, you are wrong. The first step in solving any problem is find the root cause. Identifying dog poop as dog poop is the first step in stopping more dog poop.
Dave G says:
Dave G says:
I apologize for my tardiness, Dave. This was a tough challenge and I needed time to think it through. You were right; I have not properly considered the multi-disciplinary implications of our problem. As a result I have overstated my case and failed to list some key qualifications. So in the interest of advancement of world peace, social justice and environmental ethics here is my updated statement:
“Scumbags of the same nationality, gender, class, race, ethnicity, religion, culture, age and sexual orientation can under certain conditions judge other scumbags of the same group.”
[corrected; with proper formatting]
Clovis, I wouldn’t call Steven’s efforts here a debate any more than I would call the efforts to expose Bernie Madoff’s activities a debate. And I don’t think that anyone would mind if I called Madoff a scumbag.
Steven is producing mounds of evidence on a daily basis that proves that fraudulent and criminal activity is taking place in the climate science community. IMO these scumbags belong in prison right there next to their colleague Mr. Madoff.
4 years ago as I was seeing the light I may have agreed but now I have seen for myself what these lying tax payer thieving b******s have been up to and the dirty, dishonest way they have conducted themselves, Steve’s language is moderate. They deserve a very long stretch inside for the murder of millions they advocate just so they can keep their cushy jobs in Ivory Towers to keep swanning all over the globe telling us to ‘do as I say, I’ll do as I please’ like they are communist party leaders. I’m sure the billion $ per day spent might have helped a few poor people who are now quite dead but is better in their pockets. If I robbed your house do I deserve pleasantries? Yes you might understand why I I robbed you but I deserve consequences. Stop defending scumbags and asking for respect for them – respect is earned and a two way system. Yes they might seem reasonable people when you meet them but reasonable people don’t advocate genocide to further their cause. Zealots do. Fanatics do. We have suffered enough fools. Anyone who makes you fear, not respect, nature is either a fool or a dangerous control freak enamored by only their own self worth. I may not agree with much of Steve’s politics but I’m struggling to see where he’s wrong most of the time. But hey keep voting democrat/republican/tory/labour just keep the lube handy 😉
After a decade of watching US government corruption that kills people, starves babies… It is tough to stay polite.
Read: DEMOCIDE: Death by Government
That is people murdered by their own government mostly within my life time – sickening.
Yes, anyone who deliberately uses propaganda and creates misinformation to enrich themselves at taxpayers’ expense, then tries to hide behind the facade of “settlled science” would easily meet the definition of “scumbag” in most people’s opinion.