The Price For Heresy

Bill Gray is the senior skeptic in our community. He has been a professor in the atmospheric sciences department at CSU for almost 50 years, and is considered one of the top hurricane forecasters in the world. Bill’s NOAA funding got cut off in 1993 after Al Gore’s team found out he didn’t support the orthodoxy. He now works without pay, driven by his passion to get the climate story straightened out.

Bill taught me more about weather and “climate change” in an hour today, than I had learned in my previous nearly 60 years. I will be talking more about this in the near future.

And those who believe skepticism is a big oil conspiracy – I will bite my tongue and won’t say what I really think about you. Or maybe I will.

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31 Responses to The Price For Heresy

  1. Dave N says:

    Bill still waiting for his “big oil” cheque, too? Given my stance, I should apparently be on the payroll, too.

    Still waiting for mine..

  2. Chewer says:

    As far as accuracy goes, Bill uses what most of us call, SCIENCE!
    His observations are what most meteorologists considered relevant, that is until $ from political forces entered the picture!
    The four sub-arctic vortex potentials that have influenced the N.H. intermittently over the past few months have made a better appearance as five beauties in the S.H over the past 50 months, and that is no joking matter.
    The 621MB – 10MB temperature and pressure changes are impressive, yet the bull-sheeters have hidden the change in hopes of a return to the El-Nino’s of 1983 and 1996-1997;-)

  3. HankH says:

    I’ve written about the shoddy math I’ve encountered in some of the more “alarming” climate studies. I’ve received my share of hate mail but sadly, I’m not getting paid anything by the Koch brothers, big oil, or any capitalist corporations for my efforts.

    Bill was one of the first on what is now a rather large list of us who are not receiving the fat checks alarmists insist we should be getting. I wish those alarmists would tell us where to sign up so we can get paid.

  4. Chuck says:

    To use a liberal term. “speak truth to power” Mr. Goddard! Don’t hold back either. Not only do I look toward the science on this blog, I get a good laugh at your comments to your detractors.

  5. NikFromNYC says:

    Remember Art Robinson, a scientist skeptic who ran for congress who has published his Access To Energy printed newsletter for years before the Climategate breakthrough, had his nuclear physics genius kids’ Ph.D. progress halted by political insiders:

    It’s time the army of pacifists that dominate the culture over at WUWT to get some testosterone therapy and start yelling fraud in the face of fraud or a whole progressive vs. libertarian culture war will be lost. Marcott 2013, since it dragged Michael Mann into a media cycle, finally exposed the team scam right out in the open above and beyond the arcane black box statistical lies that the mere voice of authority was enough to protect, for now, finally, anybody can see it clearly as can be:

    http://s6.postimg.org/jb6qe15rl/Marcott_2013_Eye_Candy.jpg

    Bill Nye is still to this very season still holding up a copy of Mann’s original hockey stick on national television. Well, Mark Morano and friends, *here* is the holy water!

  6. Otter (ClimateOtter on Twitter) says:

    I recall reading an article in the newspaper back in the 90s, in which he explained that a warming world would mean less hurricanes. The man knows what he is talking about. I’d like to hear more about him (with links to his material, Please!)

  7. R. de Haan says:

    Maybe Bill should talk to Weatherbell?

  8. Tel says:

    Ed Krug had a very similar story — working in the environmental industry, doing research, got the politically incorrect but scientifically valid result on acid rain, funding got cut and Krug blackballed from any further work.

    The guys pay for results… political results… staying on message. They don’t want to be told the truth.

  9. tom0mason says:

    It’s that damnedable green house gas!
    That stuff get everywhere.
    We need an international effort to eradicate water vaper from the atmosphere.

  10. theyouk says:

    You got to spend an hour with Bill Gray? Now THAT is cool. He’s been a hero of mine in the meteorology/Earth sciences space for many, many years. I (like everyone else here, I’m sure) am certainly eager to hear more about what you guys covered!

  11. Wendy says:

    it pains me to say that “big oil” are warmists and not skeptics. Those that think “big oil” funds skeptics are woefully inadequate in the brains department.

  12. omanuel says:

    Thanks for this story about Bill Gray. He may be related to the Cecil Gray that encouraged me to study science sixty years ago in 1954-55:

    http://www.omatumr.com/Photographs/Gray_desc.htm

    I suspect that he – like my graduate research mentor and most other real scientists – had abiding faith in the spiritual foundation of the scientific method.

    “Truth is victorious, never untruth.”

    Kuroda never said that verse from the Upanishads, but he practiced his faith privately when consensus scientists tried to

    1. Block publication of his 1956 papers showing that natural nuclear reactors burned spontaneously on Earth about two billion years ago, and later

    2. Gave credit and a Crafoord Prize to another scientist for Kuroda’s

    _a ) 1960 discovery of fission products from extinct Pu-244 in the Earth

    _ b) 1965 discovery of fission products from extinct Pu-244 in the Pasamonte meteorite.

    Prior to the release of Climategate emails and documents in late Nov 2009, the public had no idea of the private cost that real scientists paid for telling the truth.

    Again, thanks for pulling back the covers on the “consensus science” community.

    • omanuel says:

      Steven,

      Cecil Gray was a science teacher in Wichita, KS who encouraged me to study science in 1954. He was very devoted to science.

      Since Wichita is not so far from CSU, I wonder if Cecil could be Bill Gray’s father or uncle?

  13. InMAGICn says:

    Omanuel

    Interesting your point on natural nuclear reactors. I had no idea the notion came out in the’50s!

    You see, I visited the COMUF uranium mine at Oklo, Gabon in the late ’70s and saw the strip of ore that was left in place for future scientists. That was part of the”core” of an ancient natural nuclear reactor. It’s abandoned and likely flooded now.

    • omanuel says:

      Kuroda’s 1956 papers were limited to two, one page papers. I will send the references.

    • omanuel says:

      Oklo is on the East side of the African continent and may have contributed to the break-up of the original (Pangaea) continental mass. Kuroda showed Oklo’s location relative to the fragmentation of continents in Figure 4.3 (page 48) of reference [1].

      Kuroda’s two, one-page papers in 1956 on natural nuclear reactors [2,3], his 1960 and 1965 reports on fission products from extinct Pu-244 in air [4] and in meteorites [5] are also shown below.

      References:
      1. P. K. Kuroda, The Origin of the Chemical Elements and the Oklo Phenomenon (Springer-Verlag, Berlin, 1982) 165 pp. Oklo’s location in the fragmentation of continents is shown in Figure 4.3 (page 48): http://www.amazon.com/Origin-Chemical-Elements-Oklo-Phenomenon/dp/3642686699

      2. P. K. Kuroda, “On the nuclear physical stability of the uranium minerals,”
      Journal Chem. Phys. 25 (1956) 781- 782.

      3. P. K. Kuroda, “On the infinite multiplication constant and the age of the
      uranium minerals,” Journal Chem. Phys. 25 (1956) 1295- 1296.

      4. P. K. Kuroda, “Nuclear fission in the early history of the Earth,” Nature
      187 (1960) 36-38.

      5. M. W. Rowe and P. K. Kuroda, “Fissiogenic xenon from the Pasamonte
      meteorite,” J. Geophysical Research 70 (1965) 709-714.

      • Robertv says:

        So a meteorite impact could provoke a natural nuclear reactor . How much heat can such an impact generate ? Could a plasma flow between two space objects do the same? Let’s say a short circuit between them.

      • omanuel says:

        CORRECTION:

        Oklo is on the WEST side of the African continent FACING SOUTH AMERICA across the Atlantic Ocean

      • inMAGICn says:

        Oklo is in Gabon. It is right under the lIne in WEST Africa.

  14. Larry Fields says:

    Hi Oliver,
    Speaking of Natural Nuclear Reactors . . . There’s informed speculation that the Deccan Traps (naturally terraced mountains) in India, were the result of a huge NNR.

  15. omanuel says:

    Larry Fields,

    Hot Springs and geysers are heated by natural radioactivity in the Earth.

    My research mentor P. K. Kuroda studied these heat sources when he was on the faculty at the Imperial University of Tokyo during WWII and later after coming to the US.

    I understand mainstream media are starting to get interested in the activity at Yellowstone.

  16. inMAGICn says:

    omanuel

    Thee is radiometric evidence that certain uranium deposits in Colorado and other US states were indeed part of another natural nuclear reactor.

  17. inMAGICn says:

    omanuel

    Thanx for the references.

  18. omanuel says:

    Western society’s price for ignoring heresy may soon be apparent, as the US National Academy of Sciences and the UK Royal Society follow the UN’s IPCC in continuing to

    1 . Ignore nine pages of precise experimental data that show the Sun is a pulsar;

    2. Issue more predictions of CO2-induced global warming; and

    3. Prepare to blame economic collapse of the West on Russia !

    http://coto2.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/ukraine-navy-is-no-more-joins-crimea/#comment-43993

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