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He doesn’t get any better than that!
Jimmah Carter is grinning ear to ear. He is no longer the worse US president.
Clearly, Obama is in the running for the most stupid president, but the title of worst president must go to Abraham Lincoln, whose obsession with the “federal union” resulted in the deaths of 600,000+ Americans, and the radical expansion and centralization of power in DC. I know Obama wished he could have achieved that level of destruction, but … drugs.
Yeah? Well, that’s just your opinion, man.
I completely agree. I get so sick of hearing Lincoln’s praises for being a bastion of conservatism, and “ending slavery,” and when that wasn’t his goal at all. If you read his own speeches and letters, you find that he was a Federalist who basically wanted to destroy the 9th & 10th Amendments, which were passed in order for the Anti-federalist states to ratify the Constitution. In his relentless pursuit of federal power, He
-suspended habeas corpus and the right to a trial
-instituted the first illegal income tax
-Invaded the South without the consent of Congress
-Started the nation’s first compulsory draft
-Imprisoned between 12-30,000 Northern anti-war protestors without trial
-Declared martial law that put millions under military rule
-Blockaded Southern ports without a declaration of war (forcing the South into a fight),
-Deported representatives that publically opposed him (Clement Vallandigham),
-Confiscated private property, including guns
-Jailed owners and editors of newspapers that criticized him & censored all newspapers and telegraphs (can you spell NSA?)
-Nationalized the railroads
-Arbitrarily created three new states to boost the Republican Party’s electoral vote, and…
-Ordered troops to interfere in Northern elections on the side of Republicans (REAL vote rigging. And it wasn’t the Russians)
“the 9th & 10th Amendments, which were passed in order for the Anti-federalist states to ratify the Constitution.”
Partly right. The Constitution was ratified June 21, 1788 (NH) and the Bill of Rights was passed by the First Congress and ratified Dec 15, 1791. Having a list of rights was a key discussion point in VA, but the Constitution was ratified without it.
The deal for the BOR to be implemented in the first congress was made between the Federalists and the Antifederalists to allow ratification to happen in the first place. The Federalists, despite their papers, simply did not have the votes without making that agreement and thought the BOR while not damaging to the Constitution was not needed because the Constitution granted the Federal Government no power to infringe upon the rights and powers of the states beyond those specifically stated. It would have taken a second Constitutional Convention to include the BOR in the base document of the Constitution and so the deal was struck to avoid that.
I have always been amazed how so many of the founders which understood the evils inherent in any form of government thought that the guarantees of fundamental liberties and rights of the individuals and States were self evident in the Constitution since it gave the Federal government no mandate to infringe upon them beyond those articles that granted specific powers to the government and that and that there was no need for a BOL. That was their argument all along even during the Constitutional Convention when the majority of the delegation from Pennsylvania contingent first proposed a BOR.
Excellent summary of St Lincoln’s crimes and misdemeanors.
And you didn’t even get into his war crimes–his complicity in Sherman’s “total war” devastation of civilian infrastructure.
Lincoln’s crimes against the South make Obama’s unconstitutional drone assassinations of American citizens small potatoes.
The Union won and Lincoln led the Union during that win. He was also re-elected during the war despite the tremendous casualties far outnumbering what Americans suffered in any war. So get over it.
It is quite disingenuous to claim that those that revolted against the government and fought against it were at the same time protected by that Governments Constitution. No government could survive that for long and the Constitution was not and hopefully never will become a death pact for the Union. Besides the claim that a Union blockade of any southern port caused the war is pure Bull Shit! And I guess you figure the formation of the nation of Taiwan was illegal also.
Some think, Zachary Taylor, if he had lived would have prevented the Civil War.
It is thought that Taylor was poisoned. Interesting take on the results of recent findings. I am going to include excerpts since we are interested in Junk Science and Fake News and this ‘Not poisoned’ certainly looked like another case.
The question was asked on the forum “. I take it you don’t believe the results of the testing that was done when Taylor’s remains were exhumed and examined?”
The reply was long but these are the interesting parts.
So it sure looks like Taylor died of acute arsenic poisoning.
Who would benefit from a Civil War? Why England and France who wanted their colonies back and could have easily taken over the USA once it was exhausted from a Civil War.
Why didn’t they? Because the Russian Tzar threatened to attack from the east if they did.
Interesting that the US/EU bankers not only funded the Bolshevik Revolution but helped transport those intent on overthrowing the new Russian government. These are the same people who completely wiped out his family five decades later.
Lyndon Johnson was the worst. He was the one mostly responsible for getting thousands killed in Viet Nam, and gave us his war on poverty which only locked poverty in with government handouts. He knew he couldn’t win a 2nd term. Carter didn’t have the blood of thousands on his hands. Obama merely got us in hock to the tune of $20 Trillion.
And yet the 3rd ship of the DDG – 1000 class (AKA Zumwalt) is to be named for him. Mabus is the worse SECNAV ever.
…plus the O set the ME on fire, put millions on food stamps, set race relations back 50 years, enabled Iran to pursue nukes, doubled cost of health care, created millions of new regulations…
To sum it up …
Subject: OBAMA RATED 5th BEST PRESIDENT IN OUR HISTORY
I know you will find this hard to believe….
Texas A&M Study Calls Obama 5th Best President in America .
Good research work by a fine institution.
OBAMA RATED 5th BEST PRESIDENT IN OUR HISTORY
>From a total of 44 US Presidents: Obama is rated as the 5th best. The A&M’s Public Relations Office released this statement “After 8 years in office, Americans have rated President Obama the 5th best President ever.”
These are the details according to Texas A&M:
1. Reagan & Lincoln tied for first,
2. Twenty three presidents tied for second,
3. Seventeen other presidents tied for third,
4. Jimmy Carter came in fourth, and
5. Obama came in fifth.
Tony, look at it again:
2+23+17 = 42 presidents in the first three places
That puts Carter at #43
amd Obumber at #44 out of 44 presidents.
Should have had a sarc tag.