Children Just Won’t Know What California Looks Like

Four feet of snow in 24 hours, and almost ten feet in the last week.

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30 Responses to Children Just Won’t Know What California Looks Like

  1. Colorado Wellington says:

    What? I want to know what Porter Fox has to say about it:

    “As for the Western part of the country, it will lose an estimated 25 to 100 percent of its snowpack by 2100 if greenhouse-gas emissions are not curtailed — reducing the snowpack in Park City, Utah, to zero and relegating skiing to the top quarter of Ajax Mountain in Aspen.”
    ———-
    “There will still be a sliver of winter. That sliver is going to get smaller and smaller.”
    ———-
    “Nothing besides a national policy shift on how we create and consume energy will keep our mountains white in the winter — and slow global warming to a safe level.

    This is no longer a scientific debate. It is scientific fact.”

    -Porter Fox, Features Editor at Powder magazine and the author of “Deep: The Story of Skiing and the Future of Snow

    Bringing it Home: Sochi highlights ski industry’s climate-change challenge, By Porter Fox, The Aspen Times

    The End of Snow? By Porter Fox, The New York Times

    Ha! I knew that End of Snow was a scientific fact. Stop confusing people with these fake news. Hopefully, Griff will come soon and straighten you out.

    Crested Butte Mountain closed Monday because of too much snow
    Resort is winning the state’s snow tally, but with the blessing comes burdens
    By Jason Blevins | jblevins@denverpost.com
    January 9, 2017

    It was yet another week of Snowmaggedon for Crested Butte. Last week saw Crested Butte Mountain Resort harvest a state-leading 47 inches from a hydrological hammerdrop. The resort’s powder-cam snow stake on Monday was buried beyond its 18-inch top by midday and the resort, struggling with a windy, damp and bountiful storm, made the very rare call of closing early.

    “CLOSED. For the safety of our guests and employees, we are shutting down operations early for the day,” read the announcement on the powder cam.

    http://www.denverpost.com/2017/01/09/crested-butte-mountain-resort-closed-too-much-snow

  2. Brad says:

    With all that snow, why aren’t any of the runs open?

  3. Latitude says:

    You guys would know this…
    How do you convert inches of snow…to inches of rain??

    I thought it was about 6 inches of snow = 1 inch of rain

    • SteveKeohane says:

      12″ of snow is about 1″ of water. I’ve been collecting and recording both since the 80s.

    • Rud Istvan says:

      Depends on the snow. 12 inches of dry powder a lot less water than 12 inches of heavy soggy snow. Shoveled plenty of both kinds from my former Chicago driveway. Probably a specific location will over time have a typical mix. My farm is usually more powdery than Chicago.

    • Latitude says:

      as a rule of thumb…would you say about 8-10 inches of snow = 1 inch of water??
      …that would cover powder and slush

      • David A says:

        IMV much more variable then that. I have shoveled “Sierra Crud” wet western slope snow, and very cold dry Colorado snow, and I am certain the Sierra shovels weighed about three times as much, minimum. ( My backmonitor snow water content method, better then CAGW scientists)

      • SteveKeohane says:

        Here are nine snow depth (SD) measurements with accompanying snow water equivalent (SWE) measurements:
        SD SWE (both in inches)
        3.8 .24
        7.5 .40
        4.5 .35
        4.8 .67
        3.6 .31
        1.5 .14
        2.0 .15
        5.3 .39
        4.2 .32
        37.2″=3.0″ Totals Roughly 12″ snow= 1″ water

      • Ronald Lawrence says:

        I know that in Tennessee and NC that I’ve seen powder melt and not even fill the creeks and rivers, but 2-3 inches of the wet stuff I’ve seen cause floods. Of course there are a lot of other variables, but powder is very little water.

  4. Fred Harwood says:

    Between 5:1 to 20:1, depending upon temperature in the falling column profile.

  5. CheshireRed says:

    It’s going to be his professional epitaph. 200 years from now he’ll still have his own little place in science folklore, especially when incredulous people discuss the early 21st century obsession with something called ‘man made climate change’. My, how they’re going to laugh.

  6. Gail Combs says:

    Squaw Alpine recorded 4.5 feet (137 cm) of snow, according to its Twitter account by January 4th, link while Homewood ski area received 79 inches (200 cm) of snow in 72 hours — from On the Snow

    It is not just North America. The Death toll in Poland rises to 55, Record Snow in Istanbul, Minus -30°C in Germany (no, NOT in the Alps!) and more reported by Ice Age Now

  7. Eric Simpson says:

    Close to 10 feet of snow in a week. With more on the way.

  8. Theyouk says:

    Crazy idea: Dig tunnels in from the western slope of the Sierra under the crest that eventually lead to sloughs; divert the water to recreate ancient Lake Lahontan. Presto! Nevada becomes America’s Water Sports capital. :-) (sarc)

    In all seriousness, one can see the old waterlines up this hillsides around Nevada. There are a few ‘pockets’ of water left (Eagle Lake, Pyramid Lake, etc.). It would be interesting to see how a large body of water across Nevada would affect weather in the rest of the country (more snow in Utah; glaciers in the Ruby Mountains?). I’d once read that if the crest of the Sierra were only, say, 300-500 feet lower, enough water would make it into Nevada to restore some of the lake. Sounds doubtful, but interesting.

  9. Theyouk says:

    *the hillsides, not “this hillsides”; typed too fast.

  10. Andy DC says:

    That is virtual snow, not real snow. As you might recall, Dr. Viner said in 2000 that the only way children would be able to see snow in the future would be to create virtual snow.

    Since Dr, Viner is a leading climate expert, with access to the best climate models, that snow in the picture can’t possibly be real snow. If you think otherwise, you are a knuckle dragging denier, being funded by the Koch brothers and the oil industry!!

  11. Psalmon says:

    All that onshore moisture flow is also affecting the Wasatch and Rockies…Here is Upper CO River basin as of today…a departure from the pattern of the past several years…

    • AndyOz says:

      Hoover Dam is gonna get a lot of this.
      Luckily it has some freeboard.

      • Psalmon says:

        Unfortunately help for Lake Mead (Hoover) is a year away at least:
        -The system starts low, Lake Powell up stream and Lake Mead downstream are both only about 40% full (huge capacities…2X that of ALL the storage in California).
        -Then because of rules, they hold water upstream until Powell’s almost full (to about 24 M Acre Feet from 11 or so now).
        -THEN it has to be HUGE water years in succession and that only happened really twice in 35 years (cause they release ~9MAF (avg annual flow) no matter what, then fill Powell, then release extra)

        The good news is that CA is experiencing a rain year greater than the record 1983 year, a year also after drought, so it’s possible the pattern has returned. I think the real water story may be about whether the CO River system starts recovering. We’ll see.

  12. Gail Combs says:

    O/T bizzaro world.

    Looks like California gets snow while the Progressives get a ‘golden shower’

    4Chan is claiming they fabricated the anti-trump Russian connection hoax.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/4chan-claims-have-fabricated-anti-trump-report-hoax

    In a story that is getting more surreal by the minute, a post on 4Chan now claims that the infamous “golden showers” scene in the unverified 35-page dossier, allegedly compiled by a British intelligence officer, was a hoax and fabricated by a member of the chatboard as “fanfiction”, then sent to Rick Wilson, who proceeded to send it to the CIA, which then put it in their official classified intelligence report on the election….

    Can this election get any more bizarre?

  13. Psalmon says:

    CA deluge may continue thru end of January (model thru Jan 28 below)…83 like pattern continuing. Gonna get ugly this time if true…Reservoirs at flood capacity, bypasses full, saturated soils.

    1-5 in across CO River basin…big water year continuing for West.

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