Cold Southern Hemisphere

Sea surface temperatures south of 20S are running well below normal.

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And cold air from Antarctica is spilling across most of Australia.

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But never mind the cold.  Experts say Australia “could” get really hot.

Sydney and Melbourne could face 50C days ‘within decades’ – BBC News

If we keep pumping CO2 into the atmosphere, Australia might even get as hot as it was when CO2 was below 300 PPM.

TimesMachine: August 18, 1896

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23 Responses to Cold Southern Hemisphere

  1. gregole says:

    2018 and one would think the dreaded polar amplification posited by warmunists would simply be dominating climate by now. With CO2 at dangerously high levels and all.

  2. RAH says:

    If one takes away the polar regions and just looks at the temps in the temperate and tropical zones, global temperatures are pretty much average. IOW “global warming” is occurring at the poles and nowhere else. Is this because of residual water vapor pumped into the atmosphere during the last El Nino? The sleepy sun? Or some other factors?

    • Josh says:

      Bastardi and Dr. Maue state it is water vapor left over from the strong El Nino.

      • RAH says:

        I know what Joe says and agree with it but also believe there could be other factors and was thus querying for knowledge or information I may not possess.

        Joe has also been saying almost all year that there would be an El Nino, probably of the weak to moderate Modoki type and it looks like it is going to come to pass. You should have seen the crap I got from the alarmists on WUWT and Dr. Spencer’s site when I posted that prediction back in March or April. I noticed that nobody else from either side of the climate debate supported that claim on those boards at that time either. Well here it comes. NOAA started acknowledging it’s probable emergence in June as I recall. And now even mentioned it in their August 9th Atlantic Hurricane update as an excuse for lowering their estimates because the sheer will impact the later portion of the season. The proof is in the pudding. Joe stick his neck out and appears is going to nail it. That is why I respect and like the guy so much. He’s not always right and when he blows it he admits it and explains why, but he and the guys at Weatherbell are out there way ahead of the government and most university sources when it comes to long range weather forecasting.

        • Josh says:

          Compare the predictions from Joe compared to NOAA. Joe is way more accurate. Funny how the “experts” with million dollar models, cannot accurately predict the upcoming seasons.

      • AZ1971 says:

        Bastardi and Dr. Maue state it is water vapor left over from the strong El Nino.

        Water vapor has an atmospheric residence time of ~2 weeks. How can it be left over from an El Niño that ended more than a year ago?

  3. John of Cloverdale, WA, Australia says:

    Drought and floods, droughts and floods, this is Australia.
    “I love a sunburnt country,
    A land of sweeping plains,
    Of ragged mountain ranges,
    Of droughts and flooding rains.
    I love her far horizons,
    I love her jewel-sea,
    Her beauty and her terror –
    The wide brown land for me! ”
    From Dorothea MacKellar- (My Country, a poem published in 1908) born in Sydney, 1885, during the great 1880-1886 drought and a teenager during the great Federation Drought (1896-1902).
    The Bureau of Meteorology may alter the historical temperature record through homogenization but the rainfall record is what it is.
    Example image shown is the historical rainfall record of Gunnedah, a country farming town in NSW, Australia, now in drought. The blue bars on the graph represent the rainfall of nearby weather stations where it is missing from the Gunnedah station record. We must keep things in historical perspective because people like our useless Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull said, a few days ago, this current drought is because of Climate Change (think CO2 emissions). He also said droughts are worse and more frequent now than they were in the past.
    Cheers, JB.
    PS keep up the good work, Tony.

  4. spike55 says:

    Tony, a bit of a mistake equating Sydney, Melbourne, to county Australia.

    Yes Sydney and Melbourne do get nice and warm at times, but the country areas mentioned in the news article are generally MUCH warmer than the east coast in summer. Very different indeed.

    Adelaide is different again, and because of its position regularly gets the scorching heat coming down from the centre of Australia. Melbourne and Sydney are sheltered somewhat by the mountain ranges.

    The BBC article is, of course, just idiotic crystal ball gazing, based on nothing.

    I still reckon Sydney’s hottest temperature was in 1939.

    The 2013 “record” is clouded by UHI effects (as your recent post about Observatory Hill showed), and definitely is dubious in it origins.

    I saw the AWS summary the next day, and it read 45.3ºC, same as 1939.

    Where the extra 0.5ºC came from has NEVER been satisfactorily explained.

    • John of Cloverdale, WA, Australia says:

      Yep, Australia, like the US is a big country. We are surrounded by three oceans which drive our climate not some piddly gas in the atmosphere. I live in Perth and it is a rainy year in the SW, like last year. Incidently, Perth has more annual rainfall than Adelaide Melbourne, Hobart, San Francisco and Madrid among many other cities of greater population.
      If the politicians had any brains, they would be trying to solve our water storage problems through engineering, like the Romans did 2000 years ago, then worry about a piddly gas they deliberately call Carbon.
      An example of WA’s government incompetence is shown on this graph where it is clearly seen that catchment efficiency is at a near all-time low (graph from Warick Hughes climate blog).

    • tonyheller says:

      You should probably actually read the article before saying that I made a mistake.

      “Adelaide 127 degrees.”

      • spike55 says:

        But the BBC article is about Sydney and Melbourne.

        Different climate from Adelaide. Adelaide can get much warmer than the east coast. As is obvious from the past temperatures.

        It looks like you are comparing the Sydney, Melbourne idiocy of the BBC to Adelaide past temperatures.

  5. griff says:

    Its, like, the Antarctic winter down there….

  6. Only 1/9 of humanity lives in the Southern Hemisphere, so if people put holes in ozone the thing would be over the North Pole, where there is no volcano spewing chlorine in recent millennia. The high-pressure substitutes for real freon break air conditioners. Is it possible the same government pseudoscience bureaucracies promptly altered temperature records to invent global warming and explain away the problem they themselves caused?

    • R Shearer says:

      There are several differences between the North and South poles that make ozone depletion more likely in the South, such as air circulation patterns and temperature.

  7. spike55 says:

    The alarmists have often said the snow will disappear of the Snowy Mountains.

    OOPS !

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