FBI statistics show that the Feinstein/Bloomberg gun grab has no factual basis. American’s odds of being killed by an assault rifle are close to zero.
WASHINGTON (CBS DC) – Annual FBI crime statistics show that more people are killed with clubs and hammers each year than by rifles or shotguns.
In 2011, there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. There were 356 murders in which a shotgun was the deadly weapon of choice.
FBI: Hammers, Clubs Kill More People Than Rifles, Shotguns « CBS DC
By contrast, there were eleven million automobile accidents and more than 35,000 people killed in automobile accidents in the US in 2011.
h/t to Dave G
The ego is a terrible beast in those who think least.
If the anti-gun crowd is really serious about saving lives, then why are they not trying to ban smoking?
“More deaths are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined.”
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/health_effects/tobacco_related_mortality/
The taxes! Won’t someone please think of the taxes?!
“If I had a hammer,
I’d hammer in the morning,
I’d hammer in the evening,
All over this land,
I’d hammer out danger,
I’d hammer out a warning,
I’d hammer out love between,
My brothers and my sisters,
All over this land.” – PETER, PAUL & MARY – IF I HAD A HAMMER LYRICS
I never knew how dangerous those hippies were.
Bang! Bang! Maxwell’s silver hammer
Came down upon her head
Bang! Bang! Maxwell’s silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead
The Beatles – Maxwell’s Silver Hammer
First: I’m a gun owner (shotgun, rifles, semi-automatic pistols, revolvers). I am adamantly and vociferously opposed to gun control laws. I do not vote Democrat and I despise every single thing about Feinstein and Boxer though I (unfortunately) reside in California.
That said, this is a foolish argument that only hurts the cause because it’s so easily refuted and makes those who make it easily dismissed and even parodied by those who would make gun ownership illegal: 1) No one ever contemplated, let alone carried out, mass murder in a school or movie theater with a hammer; and 2) Hammer murders are always up close and usually crimes of passion (of course, by deranged people as are almost all murders). For carrying out premeditated murders, mass murders, murders for the purpose of headline seeking, etc., firearms are indisputably the weapon of choice.
I repeat: I DO NOT state this as making a case for gun control. I abhor such governmental overreach and intrusion. But there are better arguments than this – please stick to those.
Bullshit. You have no idea what you are talking about
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/fourth-attack-school-kids-china-preschoolers-hit-hammer-attacker-sets-fire-article-1.170023
Gee, and here I thought we were talking about the United States. You need to get a grip and be willing to say “yeah, you’re right” when your bullshit gets called out. In other words, grow up.
The worst school massacre in US history did not involve any guns. Your argument makes no sense and smells of a rat.
Looks like the Two trolls are flaming tonight like that dragons breath. that err hot flashes. 😆
Red herring. And, of course, bombs are illegal and dynamite is heavily regulated in the way that gun control advocates would like, so I’m not so sure that the Bath School massacre is really an example you want to cite.
I smell a rat.
They were illegal 85 years ago too and yet a lot of kids died anyway.
Could it be because it was man whose brain that went on sanity strike?
Come on are you that clueless?
Anyone can buy explosive material dirt cheap. Gasoline, gunpowder, primers, magnesium, thermite, etc. etc.
Murrah came down with diesel fuel and fertilizer. Both readily available and perfectly legal. Steve is right. You started out with a disclaimer that seems to be more of a lie.
Yes, when all else fails, make accusations and call people names. Lose the tin foil hat.
Anytime I see someone arguing against their claimed point of view, the alarm bells go off.
BINGO!
Bombs are illegal, and it didn’t stop someone named Ted did it. 😆
I bet Ted didn’t like guns either!
My point of view is as I stated it. I abhor gun control, I own many firearms. It’s as simple as that. You can like it or lump it as we used to say in third grade, but them’s the facts of the matter. And I think that you hand the gun control advocates a soft target when you argue that, because crime stats show more people are killed by hammers, the fact that hammers are legal implies that guns should be legal. It’s a bad argument, easily dismissed and parodied. There are lots of good ones, many of which you’ve made on this site. I’m suggesting sticking to those. As an example, all the statistics I’ve seen have indicate that Australia’s gun buy back and gun control laws had no effect on the trajectory of homicide rates. The Chicago statistics are another example.
So then it must be a climate change thinggy with ya is that it?
The foolishness on this site with respect to that isn’t worth the bother to reply. I read that stuff occasionally for (I guess since Steven “nom de plume” Goddard uses vulgarity I can too) shits and giggles. And, rarely, I can’t restrain myself from commenting. But my point of view is never hidden.
So it is a climate change thinggy then, Thanks fer clearing that up!
You are classic fake, pretending to be something you aren’t. Pathetic and lame
That doesn’t even make sense. Perhaps a course in critical thinking? I know you aren’t stupid, possibly you just lack the tools.
😆 enough said about that!
You should learn how to reply to a specific comment so that we have some clue what it is you are complaining about.
Exactly!
Fair enough. I was replying to your comment “You are classic fake, pretending to be something you aren’t. Pathetic and lame.”
Ridiculous misleading article. “in 2011, there was 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs.” No that is false, there were 496 murders committed with blunt objects, which could include thousands of other things besides hammers and clubs. There are many times more different blunt objects than riffles, so this is comparing a small category with an extremely large category, of course there are going to be more murders committed with blunt objects. Also the 323 murders committed with a rifle represent a much higher percentage of overall rifles that the 496 murders with blunt objects do overall blunt objects, so obviously any one riffle is much more likely to be use to commit murder than any one blunt object. Should we also add to that the number of riffles used to commit suicide compared to the number of blunt objects used to commit suicide?? In America in 2011, 8583 people were murdered by guns, less than half that amount, 4,081 were killed by every other weapon known to man, and yes I know that this article is only about riffles, but those stats to give a greater perspective.
While you are at it, how many angels can dance on the head of pin?
You are far more likely to be killed by a texting teenage driver than by a rifle. People who commit suicide are nuts, just like progressives who make anal comments like yours.
So it’s anal to correct your errors?? Maybe people who twist facts to fit their agenda like you are the nutty ones, but I think you are probably pretty sane, just not very honest…have you been watching Fox News for pointers on arguing a point??
What are the stats on texting teenage drivers?? You’re probably right, but do you know this for a fact, or are you just guessing? But either way that is a good reason why we need laws to prohibit dangerous practices like texting while driving, just like we need sensible gun regulation.
Don’t get mad at the fact I destroyed your funny little opinion piece and resort to insults, try a sensible considered reply with truthful info, it’ll make you look a little more credible.
Have a nice day 🙂
You picked a nit. You did not destroy his thesis or points. It is for that nit picking that he castigated you. And you respond like a wounded animal, lying and accusing.
Yeah pointing out the errors that make this completely misleading and just plain incorrect is nit picking, makes perfect sense. Not a single thing I have said is a lie, unlike the author…although to give him the benefit of the doubt he probably didn’t realise what he was posting was untrue. I didn’t realise wounded animals responded by pointing out errors in another’s argument……
I don’t have a television.
Your odds of being killed by a car (34,300 in 2011) are 100X higher than being killed by a rifle (343 in 2011.) Get a grip.
See again you are comparing groups that represent vastly different numbers, but ignoring that huge problem in your argument, the fact that cars are inherently unsafe does not change the fact that gun crime is a huge problem, that owning a gun, including a riffle, decreases your safety and the safety of your family…or the fact that your original opinion piece is wrong and uses misinformation to make a point. The fact that one thing causes more deaths (in this case cars, which are subjected to constantly changing regulation to increase safety) does not discredit the need to increase safety and improve regulations on another. More children are abused at home than at schools, should we not still work to decrease the amount of abuse that occurs in schools?? There is vastly more money lost due to corporate fraud than welfare fraud, should we not still work to decease welfare fraud??
I agree that riffles are being targeted for no good reason above other firearms, but I do not think that making false arguments helps any cause, and greater gun regulation is desperately needed, not just riffle regulation.