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GUNNYG!!!!!!
More news of imaginary snow killing people in avalanches:
http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2014/02/12/12-people-dead-in-avalanches-nationally-this-season-after-2-killed-in-oregon/
Steven, I am gathering that you like your privacy. Perhaps you ARE just doing this for fun, in which case we’ll all continue to enjoy. However, cooperation is cooperation and it cannot hurt.
-Extending the hand, again, but not for the last time,
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Where did they come up with this idea? Global Warming?
You should be commended for providing access to well researched article. You call it stupid because you can look out the window and see snow, belying the title of the article “The End of Snow”. I’m sure you got a fresh new long list of post of places where it is snowing. Like Drudge Report, the bumper sticker headline is the story, certainly not the article. Everyone knows that January and February in the U.S. have been cold and snowy. Long term climate trends showing less snow are irrelevant. It would be interesting to poll the commenters on this post who actually read the article. It won’t matter, it’s just more fraud.
Where are those?
In the article we are posting about.
Ah, so you dodn’t read the article.
Steve, where could I find the full context of that graph?
In the graph.
You seem like a suitable candidate – Will you contribute to my ‘Healing the Planet Anti-carbon Campaign’ to stop global warming? If so, please advise and I will send you an address to send your money order. Thanks in advance for your financial sacrifice to save the planet!
Matayaya, you, like many people are not paying attention and simply taking the lunatics at their word ….. Here’s the last 30 year trends broken down by seasons …. http://suyts.wordpress.com/2014/02/09/another-uninformed-writer-who-doesnt-read-suyts-end-of-snow/
We don’t have less snow, we have nearly exactly the same as 30 years ago. All we’re seeing is a cycle of the seasons, as more snow is happening in Fall and Winter, and less in the Spring. I can provide more details if you wish, but, then, you’d have to confront the notions you hold.
I disagree. I can’t look out my windows. The snow is so high this year, it’s over the tops of my windows. I can’t wait until I can look out of my windows.
Matayaya,
If our long term computer models are “dead on balls accurate” can we apply their mathematical prowess to our short term models? I’d really like to know what my weather will be next week.
Here is a the scientific forecast discussion from wunderground.
“Models indicate that a weak shortwave will cross Colorado Sunday
night. Though it will remain dry over nm…downsloping winds will
keep temperatures warm overnight across the plains. Otherwise…
continued zonal flow will continue through Tuesday with bouts of
breeziness. Models diverge starting Wednesday with the strength and
timing of the next potential upper level trough. Ec is more bullish
and brings a shortwave across nm…with some precipitation associated with
it. GFS shows a much broader wave with no precipitation. Oddly…though
models diverge middle week…they both show a wave impacting nm next
Friday. Stay tuned.”
Winter snowfall extent in the Northern Hemisphere trending up since 1967.
http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_seasonal.php?ui_set=nhland&ui_season=1
Winter snowfall extent in North America trending up since 1967.
http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_seasonal.php?ui_set=namgnld&ui_season=1
Rutgers online graphics start in 1967 and recent years show nothing unusual.
What was your point again?
The point of the NY Times article was the long term trend of snow and ice, not just the past 6 weeks. That long term trend shows significant, steady decrease in snow packs across the world. Six weeks of snow and ice on .4 percent of the globe hardly disproves the long term trend. The more reliable indicator would be NOAA’s recent posting of global temperatures for January 2014 showing them to be the 4th warmest on record. Of course that doesn’t mean anything to you if you buy in to the conspiracy theory that the world’s leading climate scientist lie about the data.
And don’t forget!!
If you like your computer generated long term climate model results, you can keep your computer generated long term climate model results!!!
Why would those paragons of virtue and scientific inquest known as climatologists follow the lead of the current occupant of the Whitehouse when it comes to truth or accuracy???
Any other conclusion than the one promoted by the Whitehouse is a racist conspiracy theory!!!
Seeing the world as black and white is the same as seeing the world thru conspiracy theories.
This one made me laugh!! Only 16 more days of NH winter left.
Celebrate “Spring Break” with Free Skiing!!!
http://www.international.to/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=43452:celebrate-this-spring-break-with-free-skiing-and-the-top-snow-conditions-in-canada&catid=309:pitchengine&Itemid=446
Perhaps once Porter Fox takes a break from spruiking his disastrous snow prediction book, he might enjoy some of the record snowfall in Big White! Especially when he remembers 1980 as the best snow ever. Let’s not forget that it was very cold in the late 70’s.
“In 1979, Snow fell in the Sahara Desert in southern Algeria for the first known time.”
http://www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/6732951/the-almanac-weekly
Yep, and it was repeated this winter with snow in Israel, West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Tunis and Morocco.
If I remember correctly it was the NYTs that predicted the end of famine in the Ukraine.
It was NYT that had Walter Duranty and won a Pulitzer Prize. It was revoked after it was found Duranty was ERRrrrrrr less than honest about the Ukrain Famine.
More on the NYT at the present time at Tallbokes: New York Times has Vested interest in Climate Alarmism
My comment (first one) has a lot of stuff on the rest of the bought and paid for MSM.
The New York Times the FINEST Propaganda Money can buy!
Gail,
The NYTs still hangs Duranty’s Pulitzer in their “hall of fame”
They refuse to recognize his reporting errors. They have been evil for a long time.
Not evil, just wrong again and again and again………………..
[my brackets]
“150 Years of Global Warming and Cooling at the New York Times”
http://newsbusters.org/node/11640
“Fire and Ice” [Cooling and warming scares from the past]
http://www.mrc.org/node/30586
“A Century Of Cycles: Do You See A Pattern Here?” [We must act then!!!]
http://www.almanac.com/sites/new.almanac.com/files/1895_cvr1_0.png
Shock News: Global Warming Devastation. Salisbury breaks 70 year record for coldest day.
http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/20140130/NEWS/301300062/Weather-Service-Salisbury-s-temperature-today-breaks-low-record-from-1940?nclick_check=1
The NY Times article is based on a study. What’s so hilarious is that the study points how if we don’t solve this global warming then skier visits are going down and goes on about how important that it is our economy. The MORONS don’t realize if the global warming theory is correct, the ONLY way to solve this is to make everyone so poor that they couldn’t even possibly consider thinking about spending $150/day (actually more with equip etc) or 2K on a ski vacation! They don’t get it whatsoever that just changing a few light bulbs or putting up a couple thousand wind turbines or miles of solar farms will do very little to cut carbon emissions and it will absolutely nothing to stop the very poor people in other countries who don’t even have a car to drive to a ski resort but want some of the prosperity that we have. It’s all Stupid, Stupid, Stupid!!!!
glennez, your house probably won’t burn down either but you have fire insurance.
Spot on – So, will you contribute to my ‘Healing the Planet Anti-carbon Campaign’ to stop global warming? If so, please advise and I will send you an address to send your money order. Thanks in advance for your financial sacrifice to save the planet!
No, there is no such thing as “insurance”. The only insurance is to make us all poor so we couldn’t even possibly consider going skiing. We probably have a couple ten thousand wind turbines up, millions of acres of ethanol, many square miles of solar, expensive light bulbs – could you please tell me has that helped “the problem”?? You live in a fantasy world. Actually many fantasy worlds of many ignorances of all of this. The cycles, the trickery, the deceipt, natural factors, the enormous energy use that gives us the opportunity to use these computers, live in a nice house, the entire society is built on energy and prosperity. And all of that prosperity is linked to Carbon = CO2. Even if you are poor. I serve the poor every day in my business, and they are not anywhere close to being truly poor. The STUPIDITY and inability to accept basic fundamental math is outstanding in our society. Why? POLITICS!!!! You pick your story and you stick to it. Do you know we’ve had the snowiest winters in HISTORY (blah blah blah – history is only 30 yrs long) in the past 5 years in the N. Hemisphere?
And to add to that. EVERY SINGLE GREEN IDEA WASTES ENERGY (YES I’m SHOUTING!!!). Every wind turbine, solar panel, enthanol gallon, silly light bulb, just about every single green idea uses more energy and creates more CO2 than so called traditional sources. They ALL cost more. And that’s just fine with the Greens, because they want us all to be POOR!!!!
I rather have my house burn down than live in the 1700s and that is exactly what reducing CO2 by 83% will do!
The average energy use for the USA is 335.9 million BTUs per person. (wwwDOT)nuicc.info/?page_id=1467
The U.S. in 1800 had a per-capita energy consumption of about 90 million Btu. (wwwDOT)bu.edu/pardee/files/2010/11/12-PP-Nov2010.pdf
Farmers made up about 90% of labor force in 1790.
Farmers made up only 2.6% in 1990
About 250-300 labor-hours required to produce 100 bushels (5 acres) of wheat with walking plow, brush harrow, hand broadcast of seed, sickle, and flail in 1830. (Steel plows were later BTW)
In 1987 – 2-3/4 labor-hours required to produce 100 bushels (3 acres) but that takes lots of oil.
1810-30 saw the transfer of “manufacturing” from the farm and home to the shop and factory. It wasn’t until the 1840?s that we saw factory made farm machinery, labor saving devices and chemical fertilizers became at all common. It was in the 1860?s that kerosene lamps became popular.
Also up until the 1850?s dung and wood were the major source of energy. http://dieoff.org/page199_files/image002.gif
For an 83% reduction like Obama wants your talking 17% of the current usage or 57.1 million BTUs per person. In other words for the USA to use onlyabout 2/3 the energy per person that was used in 1800. SO we must abandon ALL factories and 90% of the population must return to subsistence farming WITHOUT animals because animals produce CO2.
This is what you want and I am NOT interested!
What’s so crazy is your very sensible post is completely lost on about 90% of people!
Matayoyo believes that “carbon” is killing the world, yet she still uses electricity. I mean, seriously: turn off your computer. Go live the lifestyle that you claim will fix everything, every inch of it: no plastics, no food delivered by anything but ox-cart or bicycle, no concrete, no lumber harvested with chainsaws, no tires made in Taiwan, no electricity made by coal or gas, no solar panels shipped over on container ships, none of it.
And my insurance rates are based in risk. If I do things that improve my fire safety (fire detectors, asbestos shingles, clear brush away etc), that lowers my risk, and my rates.
But if my neighbors continue to purposely pile up dried brush against their house, it raises the risk for the entire neighborhood.
Even if the US could magically drop their CO2 use to zero (which should lower the GLOBAL risk of CAGW), it wouldn’t matter as long as my neighbors (China and India) pile it up faster than ever.
this is absolutely right.
Snow was going to be a rare event in the UK. Latest ski reports.
Glen Coe
Soft snow everywhere, runs basically irrelevant as you can ski anywhere. Possible to ski to car park.
For the very latest snow updates check out our new Twitter feed at http://www.twitter.com/glencoemountain
Cairngorm
Amazing cover from mid-station up, the Gunbarrel is completely full, so much snow that snow as having to be removed from under the Cas T-bar upline. Even a good portion of the new taller snow fences are buried.
Glen Shee
Last Update 22.23hrs on Wednesday 12th Feb 2014
Ongoing snow has blanketed the entire ski area with too much in places. Good skiing/boarding over the entire area with fresh snow on a packed base or, if you prefer, freeriding over the snow field that is Glenshee.
Ben, I wish they had some of that good snow at the Winter Olympics last night instead of the slurry some of the athletes were being dragged down by.
We could have more snow if only you would contribute to my ‘Healing the Planet Anti-carbon Campaign’ to stop global warming. Please advise and I will send you an address to send your money order. Thanks in advance for your financial sacrifice to save the planet!
The average low for Sochi in February is 37°. Water freezes at 32°.
Only an idiot selects a subtropical location for a Winter Oympics event.
Only mega idiots start complaining about lack of snow and wining about AGW.
When will people use their brain?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/12/an-attempt-to-politicize-the-winter-olympics-over-climate-change-fails-to-demonstrate-climate-consensus/
“Only an idiot…”? Don’t be fooled by the media hype.
The Russian government spent at least $9 billion. Need we ask who received the money. ( Hint VP)
He and his mates will now own the premier and most modern sea side holiday city in Russia. It will have vacationers year round like Vegas. And no gays allowed. The annual liquor sales alone will be massive.
Sure I’m speculating, but big Vladimir is no dummy. Sochi will be his personal 401K.
Andy I am a fan of Putin but you are not entirely wrong!
“Ben, I wish they had some of that good snow at the Winter Olympics last night”
If the Winter Olympics hadn’t been held in Sochi, a holiday resort on the Black Sea where snow is a relatively rare phenomenon, perhaps there would have been.
Here are the temperature data for Sochi, note that that the average low temperature never drops below zero.
http://www.worldweatheronline.com/Sochi-weather-averages/Krasnodar/RU.aspx
Here’s the probability of snow.
Accumulation at this location in February is very unlikely. The chances of there being snow on the ground are highest around February 1, occurring 7% of the time.
http://weatherspark.com/averages/33852/2/Sochi-Krasnodarskiy-kray-Russian-Federation
Dear me, you just don’t get it, do you?
25 – 100%. Climate science precision right there.
Right, and Breckenridge had almost 300 inches of global warming so far this year, and they have about 1/3rd of the snow year yet to go. I can’t bear this STUPID world I live in anymore!
Man, I hope his error bars are on the order of 200% of his stated range, or else he’s still going to end up wrong.
And if certain Geologists are correct (and CO2 is not a magic gas) Glacial inception already occurred probably during the Little Ice Age.
The key phrase is “…Thus, glacial inception occurred ~3 kyr before the onset of significant bipolar-seesaw variability…” translated that means the melting of the Arctic ice and the increase in Antarctic ice comes 3,000 yrs AFTER the transition.
Another earlier paper:
And if other scientists are correct what saved our Ar$e was an energetic sun.
Another key, is that the Little Ice Age was coined to describe the Neo-Glaciation of the Sierra Nevada….Glaciers originating only in the last 700 years. Most are still here, so technically we are still in the Neo-Glaciation…
The way things look outside right now, I am hoping I have glacier damage insurance for my house!
That is the same for glaciers in Norway. Norway Experiencing Greatest Glacial Activity in the past 1,000 year (Discussion of a new paper)
And
The solar insolation for 21 June at 65? N and CO2 for termination of several interglacials from the paper with the link:
MIS 7e – insolation = 463 W m?2, CO2 = 256 ppmv
MIS 11c – insolation = 466 W m?2, CO2 = 259-265 ppmv
MIS 13a – insolation = 500 W m?2, CO2 = 225 ppmv
MIS 15a – insolation = 480 W m?2, CO2 = 240 ppmv
MIS 17 – insolation = 477 W m?2, CO2 = 240 ppmv
Current values are insolation = 479 and CO2 = 390 ppmv.
Considering the Ice Core CO2 numbers were as ‘Adjusted’ as the current temperature record, that does not give me the warm fuzzies.
Gail combs, Over the last 35 years the sun has shown a slight cooling trend. However global temperatures have been increasing. Since the sun and climate are going in opposite directions, the sun cannot be the cause of recent global warming.
The only way to blame the sun for the current rise in temperatures is by cherry picking the data. This is done by showing only past periods when sun and climate move together and ignoring the last few decades when the two are moving in opposite direction.
Where the heck did you get that information?
Cycle 23 (beginning in May 1996 and ending in January 2008) was not as strong as Cycle 22 and cycle 24 has been very weak but do remember the oceans act as a giant hot watter bottle so you are not going to see a major change so much in the temperature as in the weather patterns.
NATURE Vol. 399, 3 June 1999. Pages 437-439 A Doubling of the Sun’s Coronal Magnetic Field during the Last 100 Years The magnetic flux in the solar corona has risen by 40% since 1964 and by a factor of 2.3 since 1901. (This has a good graph)
NASA: Study Finds Increasing Solar Trend That Can Change Climate
(wwwDOT)nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/solar_trend_change_climate.html
Sun’s Activity Increased in Past Century, Study Confirms
(wwwDOT)space.com/2942-sun-activity-increased-century-study-confirms.html
Regional atmospheric circulation shifts induced by a grand solar minimum
(wwwDOT)nature.com/ngeo/journal/v5/n6/abs/ngeo1460.html
Bicentennial Decrease of the Total Solar Irradiance Leads to Unbalanced Thermal Budget of the Earth and the Little Ice Age 2012
ccsenet(DOT)org/journal/index.php/apr/article/view/14754
Here is the albedo (cloud cover etc) from the Earthshine Project: GRAPH It shows the change ~1997 at the beginning of Cycle 23 and when the super El Nino occurred.
A correlation of mean period of MJO indices and 11-yr solar variation
(wwwDOT)sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364682612000302
NOTE: the declining phase of Cycle 23 is when the sun changed character leading to prediction of a weak cycle 24.
The Holocene Asian Monsoon: Links to Solar Changes and North Atlantic Climate
(wwwDOT)sciencemag.org/content/308/5723/854.abstract
Influence of solar activity on breaching, overflowing and course-shifting events of the Lower Yellow River in the late Holocene
hol(DOT))sagepub.com/content/23/5/656.abstract
Joseph Dooley, More nit picking, ok, how about just insert “a lot”.
So, if there’s at least one year with more than 75% of the current average, he’s wrong. Too bad we have to wait till 2100 to prove him wrong, but whatever.
Maybe if your heroes showed any ability to predict the future we could actually trust them to predict the future.
“It’s tough to make predictions. Especially about the future.”
Yogi Berra
I think there’s something in that for all of us.
Yogi and Niels Bohr were on the same page.
In matayoyo’s defense, she saw “Snow melts above 32 degrees Fahrenheit.” & figured the rest must be good, too.
They should be vwery vwery careful.
If Al Gore shows up you get this THIS!
Reading down, one comes to “some computer models predict.” …………………techno astrology.
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They’ve been at it for years, here’s ‘The Independent’ from March 2000.
Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
And ‘Der Spiegel’ from Feb 2005
Global Warming Threatens Famous Alps Resorts
http://www.spiegel.de/international/global-warming-threatens-famous-alps-resorts-for-many-alpine-ski-areas-nordic-walking-may-be-the-sport-of-the-future-a-342280.html
catweazle666, CLICK HERE for the fuller list (60 quotes) of predicted warmer winters and earlier Springs – direct from the scientists themselves.