Antarctic sea ice has been growing rapidly over the last 30 years, because Antarctica is getting colder.
arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/timeseries.south.anom.1979-2008
Antarctic sea ice has been growing rapidly over the last 30 years, because Antarctica is getting colder.
arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/timeseries.south.anom.1979-2008
Reggie has obviously been suffering a dysfunction down south!! Oh and his blow torch isn’t working too well either 😉
Queue up the “new study” published in the “peer reviewed” journal of whatever, showing that increasing Antarctic ice is due to warming of the ocean at the deep ocean that reduces salinity in the south, and it freezes more rapidly…
The game plan is pretty obvious at this point. They always have some cockamamie study and headline to point to that shows black is white. That’s where the $29B is going. Great gig.
Look at 1979, 80, 81. I was studying geology in the middle of the global cooling scare, and noticed how the southern hemisphere was on fire. All the idiots were talking about global cooling and I was wondering why they ignored the southern hemisphere. Nothing has changed.
And the first order feedback is…..
More ice reflects away relatively more solar energy and leads to lower temperatures
We need ANOTHER study that starts with a conclusion and contorts the facts until they match.
This is an Alarmist response: But, but, it’s the ice spreading out and getting thinner from melting…….
Ice is increasing because it’s decreasing:
Zhang 2006, pal reviewed and published”
“Increase in surface air temperature results in an increase in the upper-ocean temperature and a decrease in sea ice growth, leading to a decrease in salt rejection from ice, and a decrease in upper-ocean salinity and density. This enhanced thermohaline stratification tends to suppress convective overturning, leading to a decrease in upward heat transport and an increase in sea ice.”
So the Antarctic is getting colder , is the the reason ?
Looking at this
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.recent.antarctic.png
The ice anomaly is more during the freezing part of the cycle and mainly average during the thawing. So it must be colder only half the year. Every year. Same place.If you look at earlier years it is even more pronounced.
What causes this Steve?
Andy
Andy, the map you linked clearly shows the ice area is above the mean throughout the whole period listed with the greatest anomally’s at the peaks and the minimums. Please explain to me how there can be more ice throughout the whole year if it has not been getting colder. I see this as a simple explaination, more ice during the peak means the colder air is making it down further north increasing the maximum extent and higher ice anomally during the minimum means it had to have been colder also or there would not be a high ice anomally during the minimum. Common sense right?
Totally, and the increasing negative SST anomalies in lower (south) latitudes every year confirm what common sense tells,
http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif
reflecting the increasing ice extent at the pole.
-85 F in Vostok today and -101 F at a station called Concordia. It is still a month from winter. Does not look like Antarctica is in any immediate peril.
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