The WAIS slipping off the continent scare story has been around for decades, and is typical of the technically illiterate people known as climate scientists. Scaled down to size, the Antarctic ice sheet is thinner and flatter than a sheet of paper. It would take thousands of years for any large scale movement of the ice. These people are complete morons.
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A sense of scale is generally lacking in much of academic science, and I consider it the main symptom of the general scientific incompetence. As I wrote in a recent blog post, “More than 30 years ago, I had already concluded that the main failing of today’s scientists was their inability to handle basic probabilities, and thus to govern their imaginations, and especially to rigorously match the strength–not to mention the kind–of their proposed causes to the strength–and kind–of the observable effects (0.04% CO2 as the ‘control knob’ of global mean temperature, for example…” In other, fewer words, keep things in their proper scale (as well as their likely area–or “kind”–of direct impact).
This is why engineers and ‘real life’ aka industrial scientists and geologists (those not working in Academia or the government) do not believe in CAGW if they bother to look at the information available.
In the wider picture (even just with respect to climate science), it is, at bottom, not about “real life” scientists versus academic/government scientists (although the intrusion by political powers in, and the subornation of all of our “authoritative” institutions to, the false climate science, makes that an easy observation to make here). I don’t believe ANY competent physical scientist CAN believe in CAGW–the science is THAT bad, as I believe I have shown with the definitive facts, on my blog. But I also know ALL of the earth and life sciences are founded upon false assumption, actually a false paradigm, of undirected evolution of the Earth and all the life on it; and all of them are full of equally incompetent, speculative theories that are based upon just that inattention to scale and cause-effect matching that I have emphasized here.
I was wondering how long Harry could post almost normal stuff before the voices in his head convinced him to once again twist off on the subject of his invisible friend.
@stewart pid:
Until you can demonstrate a comprehensive knowledge of the universe and its workings, it’s a little incautious to dismiss a theory off-hand.
We don’t know how the Big Bang started. We don’t understand the nature of 95% of the mass of the universe–chalking it up to “dark matter” and “dark energy”. We’re still struggling to unify the basic forces of the universe.
There’s evidence of an underlying granularity in the universe, a kind of static ether, as seen in propagation discrepancies of cosmic rays from different directions.
It’s a pretty mysterious place. Is it a simulation? A construct? A creation? An accident?
We don’t know. Keep an open mind.
Stewart pid, just think for a moment about the “Big Bang” theory.
ALL matter in the UNIVERSE is contained within a microdot, within zero volume. Que?
By what fantastic force?
All matter explodes forth,at a specific micromoment in time.
By what mechanism?
The Roman Catholic Church’s leisurely 6 day creation story seems rather more credible to me than Hawking’s theoretical mathematics, at least God got a day of rest, after.
& I believe in neither.
Steve,
Have you seen this article from the Washington Times?
The Crony Capitalists in the Pentagon’s industrial clique are banging the drums for the climate war.
They see Afghanistan going away, and with it their massive profits. They need another revenue source.
http://personalliberty.com/neoconservatives-wary-real-conservative-becoming-president/
Kent
It’s normal for new ice to push away old ice. But NORMAL isn’t something libs would recognize. Maybe if we put a transgender dress and makeup on the ice shelf, they’d embrace it!
OOOooh, trendy! I like it! Spray it pink, give it a persona narrated by a high lispy metro-male voice and suddenly it will be the media darling.
Then have it pronounce outrageous insults against straight white males while making a fake tittering laugh. Voila! Modern agitprop!
Oops, wrong article:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/26/sponsors-of-pentagons-alarm-raising-climate-study-/
SIGHhhh,
Well at least they are not banging the drum suggesting we go to war with Russia or worse China
Looks like they’re using Right Sector Nazi proxy troops, Gail, to provoke the Bear.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/farcical-elections-in-ukraine-staging-ground-escalation-of-conflict-hostilities/5383868
Looks like the madsters are in charge of the asylum.
With luck Putin is smart enough not to get trapped in a situation he can not get out of peacefully.
I really do hate the Banksters and their darn False Flags.
They make the money and we pay for it in blood and sweat.
Unfortunately the politicians love a war for getting the citizens off their backs… LOOK a SQUIRREL! and Obama has more scandals to hide than most politicians.
The Nazi’s were self declared socialists. Everyone seems to forget this. And I realize it’s more complicated than that. I’ll definitely buy the notion of foreign direction in this election, but to say it is orchestrated by the US? I would ask: “who is that?” It certainly isn’t Obungler, who can’t even act to fire an administrator in the VA. The work of the Banksters is what I would suspect. What’s happening around the world is more complicated than simply left vs right. There is a range of perspectives. Kent’s first link above is a good example.
Kent has the last half of the story in his book Willing Accomplices: How KGB Covert Influence Agents Created Political Correctness and Destroyed America SEE Kent’s website
Congressman McFadden has the first half of the story. Louis T. McFadden’s Speech In the House of Representatives
For these types of speeches McFadden was driven out of Congress and when he didn’t shut up but continued to speakout he was assassinated.
I need extra coffee before I’m ready to read more comments about transgender dresses, banging and sliding off sheets.
Then I’ll be able to cope.
There’re a couple of articles on:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info
Prof. Michael Keefer makes some great points, then finishes on climate drivel.
Paul Craig Roberts latest is a must read.
& this one :
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/06/29/earths-alpha-predator-zionist-mafia/
Agenda 21 depopulation madness?
I really wish they would leave the Zionist bashing completely out of the stories. It makes people discount them as nut-jobs.
I handed something Paul Craig Roberts wrote a couple of months ago to my Husband and that was the first thing he commented on after doing a quick web search. He then refused to take Dr. Roberts seriously.
Use Bankers instead it is more appropriate and doesn’t turn off the Occupy Wall Street crowd. Also the fraud involved in Fractional Reserve Banking is very very easy to prove.
Quite agree.
Too many people are stuck in the old paradigm, thinking in terms of nationalities & countries. It hasn’t sunk in to the emotional level that countries are no longer running things, & that politicians are largely just windy glove puppets, following the lead of the 1%Banksters MSM, when their not trousering more tangible influence more directly.
Multinational crony corporations are more powerful than countries now, & the Banksters are pulling their strings.
There’s an interesting website which I see as the oldest scamster business in the world, the Roman Catholic Church, turning on the Banksters.
Way back, the RC had forced the Banksters to be the “Usurers”, when Popes had the power to call Crusades, but the world seems to have changed somewhat. 🙂
http://www.politicalvelcraft.org
& try Operation 1776. Russia & China sign Rothschilds NWO death sentence.
We live in more than interesting times.
Here is a study you might be interested in.
As you read this think of the popularity of Mutual Funds. Then think of the Johnsons who vote all the stock held by Fidelity, Magellin and their other mutual funds. (They vote a good chunk of Monsanto stock.)
This is the actual paper.
These are the people
An earlier work by the same physicists.
This is why the Zionist bashing is so off the mark. Go after the real people. We now have a good chance of identifying them or at least their puppets.
So is the fraud that Fractional Reserve Banking exists in the US. it doesn’t. It died 79 years ago. Fractional Reserve Banking only applies to a monetary system that has a gold standard, or in places like Hong Kong today. Since we, the USA, have a non-convertible currency (meaning not convertible to gold or silver or some other thing, like pegged to another country’s currency) with a floating exchange rate, and have done so domestically since 1933 and internationally since 1971, we do not and cannot use Fractional Reserve Banking. Period. Loans create deposits.
Here’s how it works in the real world today. (There are no hook-nosed Jewish bankers in some basement cabal in the City of London controlling the Federal Reserve, no matter what Eustace Mullins or Griffins or Kah or Scharf wrote.)
Read this: http://www.dailypaul.com/279537/how-banking-actually-works-in-fiat-world
If you really want to understand how it works, buy Frank N Newman’s book, Freedom From National Debt, published in April 2013. It’s 87 pages. He was Deputy Secretary of the US Treasury. He is to the monetary system what this Morgan guy that I read on here is to how the greenhouse gases work, because I believe what this Morgan says. I don’t have the physics to be able to say that Morgan is right, but my gut–yeah, I know that’s not allowable–says he is correct. So is that Mike Sinacola or whatever his name was, who posted something in late January.
It does not matter how it works in the “Real World” today. It is still fraud and was originallymorphed from Fractional Reserve banking. It is “Accepted” because it is what we pay our taxes with and that is how governments get fiat accepted. In plain English, fiat money has value because it is the only money you can use to pay taxes. So the tax liability is a necessary pre-condition for fiat currency to work. This was KNOWN and why the IRS was put in place at the same time as the 1913 Federal Reserve Act.
The final end to the morphing from gold/silver to fiat currency, especially with idiots/greedy fraudsters controlling the printing press is hyperinflation and the repudiation of irredeemable currency. You are starting to see a bit of that already. Especially with the BRICS countries stockpiling gold and trading in currencies other than the US Dollar.
Our Constitution point blank says GOLD AND SILVER only for state coins and Senator Daniel Webster said in Congress in the debate over the reauthorization of the Second National Bank of the U.S. in 1832.
Which the Turncoat Sentor Aldrich turned around and quoted at a dinner party, no doubt from the point of view of the banksters.
Policycritic, this is what the banking scam means to me.
It means that only ~3% of money is created as coins or paper money. the coins are debased alloys, not gold or silver. The paper can no longer be redeemed for gold or silver, as per original promises, essentially they are illusionary, a worthless promise.
A fraud, if you like.
For example, since the sneaky inception of the FED, Christmas eve 1913, the US $ is now debased to ~ 3 cents purchasing power.
In the UK, for some comparison, our £ is now worth ~7p, since the 1970s.
This means that ~97% [ now there’s a real 97% consensus for you 😉 ] is created as debt, out of thin air, by the click of a mouse, they don’t even have the paper & ink expenses of creating paper monopoly money, it’s now “virtual” monopoly money.
When a starry-eyed young couple goes to the bank to sign on for a 30 year mortgage, to buy their first house, the money is created then, upon their signature. That’s an immorality, & an illegality, because to lend out money you don’t have, at interest, is technically a fraud. This is why no bank will sign a mortgage, only the dumb mortgagee signs their life away.
It’s a modern form of slavery.
Here’s another immorality :
The Banks(sters) 🙂 charge full interest on the non-existent money they’ve lent out, but give below inflation interest on the real savings of people who’ve worked to put real money, earned by their labour or/and talents, away for retirement or a rainy day.
That’s stealing peoples lives, & that’s another form of …slavery.
I know it’s way more complex, but one has to start somewhere.
This is not even the foundations of our financial morass, it’s not even lining out for the foundations, but not a word is untrue.
I’m not interested in economic theories, my interest is people.
@jdseanjd: really well-said; a great summary of the big picture.
Our system of fiat debt-money is designed to suck the wealth and productivity out of a nation. It’s an ages-old game of usury and fraudulent lending, perfected by the Rothschilds in the 1700’s and propagated world-wide today.
It’s an absolute scam. And it’s doubly sickening because it’s so open, but so subtle, that its poor stupid victims don’t even understand how they’re being robbed.
I carry around a couple of learning tools in my wallet–a 1964 Kennedy half-dollar (90% silver), and two Zimbabwean notes–one, denominated as 500 million Zim dollars, the other–put your pinky to the corner of your mouth like Mike Myers’ Dr. Evil–100 Trillion dollars mwa-ha-ha-ha!
It’s wonderful to see people’s eyes light up when they get it. “See this? 50 cents? No. It’s about eight bucks’ worth of silver. Used to be just fifty cents. Guess what? It’s still worth two gallons of gas!”
Then I whip out the Zim dollars. BTW, they were printed less than a year apart. THAT’S how fast hyperinflation happens.
Nicely said jdseanjd.
A couple more points. The present fiat system is unconstitutional.
The Obligation of Contracts in regard to bank mortgages was tried in a court of law in a landmark Minnesota case and legal precedence was set. In First National Bank of Montgomery vs. Daly (1969) Justice Mahoney stated:
Like Congressman McFadden, Justice Mahoney died of poisoning.
The actually progression.
The international bankers intentionally created a mess in US banking.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was supposed to rectify it by making the US government liable for the bankers debts.
In 1915 J. P. Morgan interests bought the influential newspapers.
The USA abandoned its isolation policy and got involved in WWI on April 6, 1917.
The bankers made another mess making loans in Europe and FDR confiscated private citizens gold to bail them out. (Foreign banks can exchange $$$ for gold and did so.)
The Rothschild bankers in London set the gold exchange rate.
After WWII the USD became the World Reserve Currency and the IMF and World Bank were formed.
US gold continued to flow out of the USA despite McFadden’s speeches until Nixon had to detached the dollar from gold.
The US dollar no longer has a working economy supporting it and the BRICS countries are ditching the US dollar as the reserve currency.
@Gail,
Fiat money was unknown in 1913. None of this was in place. Read Robert Latham Owen’s presentation to Congress in 1939, which didn’t get read because of WWII.
“National Economy and the Banking System of the United States — An Exposition of the Principles of Modern Monetary Science in Their Relation to the National Economy and the Banking System of the United States”
76th Congress, 1st Session, Senate Document 23, Sent to Government Printing Office, January 24, 1939
Google it.
@Gail,
You’re dead wrong. All of this was completed obliterated by the Legal Tender Cases of the 1870s. The law determined that anything that has the US Great Seal on it and is determined to be Legal Tender is US Currency.
Yes, Gail, I’d seen this study, thank you.
In short, as I understand it, out of 43,000 + international corporations analysed, 147 control 40% of global annual business by volume, ( turnover, as I think of it.), & 60% of world assets.
Simply staggering figures.
Ally this with the fact that 90% of American media are controlled by 6 corporations, in turn owned by the 1%sBanksters.
Google or youtube 6 corporations control media
The implications lead straight to the Fascist, Orwellian world we inhabit.
You can Also toss in the IMF.
In a September 2012, study on Finance & Development they come right out and say:
And then last fall when the Republicans shutdown the US government during a power struggle with Obummer, the IMF had an emergency meeting and issued this!
I prefer Iceland’s solution. Jail the (selfsnip) Banksters and refuse to use the public purse to pay their private gambling debts!
This is the article to hand out to EVERYONE with homes just before the next election. With the question How many of your friends can liquidate enough assets to pay that 10% ESPECIALLY when everyone else is doing the same?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/26/sponsors-of-pentagons-alarm-raising-climate-study-/
There’s another 97% study…. sheeesh
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=237124
“Climate change” agenda = Obama’s golden parachute. He wants to outdo Clinton Global Initiative.
You heard it here first.
Here’s Mark Twain on the movement of glaciers, from A Tramp Abroad:
“I was aware that the movement of glaciers is an established fact; so I resolved to take passage for Zermatt on the great Gorner Glacier. The next thing was how to get down the glacier comfortably. I marched the Expedition down the steep and tedious mule-path and took up as good a position as I could upon the middle of the glacier–because Baedeker said the middle part travels the fastest. I waited and waited, but the glacier did not move. Night was coming on, the darkness began to gather–still we did not budge.”
Here is what’s sliding in my neck of the woods. More of the persistent drought do to excess plant food.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/27/No-sign-of-3-men-missing-in-Colorado-slide
With respect to comments above–it’s not about evil conspiracies or cabals of world-grasping, powerful people (for example, the bankers are as incompetent as the climate scientists, as the 2008 economic crisis should have taught everyone, once and for all), it is more fundamental; it’s about the masses who accept the lies they are told–accepting dogma unquestioningly–rather than seeking, first, last, and always, only the truth:
“Casting Off Fearful Dogmas Is the Key”
We are in a time of the general ascendance of dogma over dispassionate reasoning, in the minds of ordinary men and women (and remember always, it is the various dogmas that are dividing us all). It is a testing of mankind, according to a much higher design, to teach mankind the hard way, TO THINK WELL AND TRULY.
How many times does mankind have to remind itself, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me”, in order to remove the scales of dogma–of ideological bias–from its eyes?
Leftists are blind to the reality: it’s not workers vs owners; it’s workers vs retired workers. Not 99% vs 1%, but a majority of households are vested in retirement plans and pensions of some sort. And that means the majority owns stocks.
It’s not Wall Street vs Main St. They’re both the same now, thanks to leftist demands that everybody should retire — even the office workers who could really keep working part-time instead. But noooo, they must retire and they’ll need cheap illegal alien labor to do their yardwork and healthcare, too.
Retirement funds drive Wall Street, as more and more plans are made in lieu of old school union pensions. Unions are in bed with the owners.
SIGHHhhh
See my comments above.
Retirement funds FUND wall street but the retirees DON”T CONTROL THOSE FUNDS.
That is a KEY POINT. The other one is the retirees take all the financial risk and the owners of the mutual funds get a guaranteed cut without any risk from owning the stock.
Here is an example I looked at several years ago (2009). Some one said Retirement funds owned Monsanto so I went digging. However retirement funds own shares in mutual fund that then use those funds to buy Monsanto stock.
85% of Monsanto is held by mutual funds and Institutional (financial) Holders. Divisions of Fidelity hold total shares: 39,127,443 or 7.15% The founding Johnson family controls most of Fidelity Edward C Johnson 3rd is chairman of the group and has power of attorney to vote the shares.
The Johnson family controls
FIDELITY GROWTH COMPANY FUND – 5,819,978 shares
FIDELITY MAGELLAN FUND INC – 5,117,600 shares
FMR LLC (one of the Top Institutional Holders) – 28,189,865 shares
The family also owns Pyramis Global Advisors, LLC (“PGALLC”)
That was the info I dug out in just a quick and dirty look on the Johnson family (I may have missed some of there mutual funds.)
Another fund:
VANGUARD GROUP, INC. (THE) – 17,816,692
VANGUARD/PRIMECAP FUND – 6,351,460
VANGUARD 500 INDEX FUND – 5,250,119
VANGUARD STOCK MARKET INDEX FUND – 4,259,093
VANGUARD HORIZON FUND-CAPITAL
OPPORTUNITY PORTFOLIO – 3,819,486
total shares: 37,496,850
John Bogle, the founder and retired CEO of The Vanguard Group, has an estimated net worth of $80 million. (Vanguard is client owned)
This is old info so links may be dead.
REFERENCES:
Who owns Monsanto:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=mon
Power of Attorney:
http://idc.api.edgar-online.com/efx_dll/edgarpro.dll?FetchFilingConvPDF1?SessionID=csbHWxGCWm3FTfS&ID=6419107
http://www.indopedia.org/Monsanto.html
Hang on a minute there, Harry. What happens if we all agree that paper (fiat) money is worthless?
We first make sure we have gold and silver coins that we bought with out fiat funny money dollars. THEN we tell the FED to stuff it.
So, can you call this academic incontinents?
Remember that in the 1970’s and global cooling was the danger of the day, our fabulous science czar, Holdren, writing with his eugenicist friend, Paul Ehrlich, mused that a giant chunk of ice could fall off the Antarctic causing a tsunami of untold proportions
The preposterous choice of Holdren was an omen of bad things to come.
Got that right.
Squared.
Man-made, CO2, global warming, climate change?………I beg to differ:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/11/17/volcano-discovered-smoldering-under-a-kilometer-of-ice-in-west-antarctica/
Antarctica is about as wide as the United States:
http://www.neatorama.com/2009/11/09/how-big-is-antarctica/#!Rds03
The ice averages 6,000 ft thick and the United States is 2,800 miles wide or 14,784,000 feet so that thickness of ice represents 1/2464 of the width, and a piece of high quality paper has a thickness 0.005″ compared to a height of 11″ for a ratio of 1/2200.
Hmm, so much for cross section diagrams like this one:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KAAVybU9NfM/Tgs2yUNA-nI/AAAAAAAABSw/vIvMxXP4QgI/s1600/antarcticSeaIce.jpg
After all, there are *not* huge needle-like spikes of ice towers there either, and the realistic view requires squinting:
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2d828y.jpg
Thanks for that, Nic.
harrydhuffman (@harrydhuffman) says: @ May 27, 2014 at 9:18 pm
With respect to comments above–it’s not about evil conspiracies or cabals of world-grasping, powerful people (for example, the bankers are as incompetent as the climate scientists, as the 2008 economic crisis should have taught everyone….
>>>>>>>>>>>>
You really missed the lesson on that one Harry, The 2008 crisis was just as planned as the 1929 stockmarket crash. It was a giant wealth transfer to select bankers.
See: “The Great American Bubble Machine”
Full article here (with a link to Zero Hedge and another article)
For a close look at how the latest wealth transfer worked:
How the AIG Bailout Could be Driving More Foreclosures
I have tons of info on the foreclosure scam if you really want me to elaborate.
Scaled down to what size?
A4
policycritic says…
The court system in the USA has been changing the meaning of the Constitution for a long time. That is why a mud puddle in a farmers field is now a “Navigable Waterway’ and regulated by the EPA. Why veggies and wheat grown and used by a family is “Interstate commerce between the states” and regulated by the FDA and USDA.
The Sixth Amendment states:
And the Seventh Amendment states:
Yet the US supreme court has removed our rights to a trial by jury and now allows trial by a bureaucratic tribunal comprised of members of the SAME BUREAUCRACY THAT ACCUSED THE CITIZEN! This is similar to military tribunals, yet the Russian system even allows …military defendants… [to] apply for trial by jury!
This is despite Thomas Jefferson writing to Tom Paine in a 1789 letter,
Now, “… modern jurists consider civil jury trial neither “implicit in the concept of ordered liberty,” Palko v. State of Connecticut (1937), nor “fundamental to the American scheme of justice,” Duncan v. Louisiana (1968).”
http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/amendments/7/essays/159/right-to-jury-in-civil-cases
I personally consider of the supreme court as packed with Tr..tors.
“I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012.” ~ Supreme Court Justice Ruth Ginsburg
policycritic says…
The Banksters packed the universities with THEIR people by funding seats in Economics. Keynes was a Fabian and Harry Dexter White who wrote the Bretton Woods agreement (IMF & World Bank) was a soviet agent ( code names—JURIST, LAWYER and RICHARD) White also gave the soviets US treasury printing plates.
Even E.M. Smith (ChiefIO) who was trained as an economist defends Fractional Reserve banking as a system. Heck even Ludwig von Mises was funded by the Rockefeller Foundation, and David Rockefeller was personally tutored by F.A. Hayek while at the Fabian founded London School of Economics!
On “Fiat Currency”
Anything can be “money’ obsidian points, shell beads, Hudson Bay blankets, silver, copper… as long as it is durable, divisible, and relatively rare people will use it to facilitate trade. Heck you could use chicken eggs!
The problem with fiat money is it is NOT rare and it is controlled by the greedy.
That last question is the critical question. Why has the US government “with power to create money, give that power away to a private monopoly.” Who has used that power to suck the wealth out of the US economy for the last hundred years and left the country impoverished and on the brink of bankruptcy.
For an explanation on US banking I prefer A PRIMER ON MONEY. SUBCOMMITTEE ON DOMESTIC FINANCE. COMMITTEE ON BANKING AND CURRENCY. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES – 88th Congress, 2d Session chaired by democrat Wright Patman.