Rumor has it that I predicted last year that the Northwest Passage would not open this year.
No NW Passage in 2014 – TO MUCH ICE FORECAST – CANADA TO PUT ICEBREAKERS INTO SERVICE?
Looks like some creative editing, because I didn’t actually say anything like that. That isn’t even my writing style. This is what I actually wrote.
Anyway, my imaginary forecast which I didn’t make appears to have turned out to be correct. The ice is not going to melt
What ya going to do BAD BOY? Go or Wait? THE DECISION IS AGONIZINGLY HARD!
h/t to chewer
He is also illiterate – it should read “TOO much ice”.
And of course the link to your article proves him a liar. On August 22, 2013, you said “this year”, not 2014. 2013 is not 2014. You might want to archive the post. It is going to go away fast given the ignorance and outright lying the clown is foisting on the idiots (normal people would check the link and see the error immediately).
the bloke is a dick, only allows comments he filters on his pages,despite saying other wise in comment policy. this may be of interest to jim hunt http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/134632/scfs-tanker-first-to-transit-northern-sea-route-in-2014/
from the above article Icebreaking assistance was provided to the Anichkov Bridge by icebreaker Vaygach of FSUE Atomflot.
As informed, ice conditions during the voyage were more severe than it is typical for this period of time.
Press Release, August 20, 2014
so jim can let the guys on the artic sea ice forum that the cruise ship attempting that route he highlighed the other week with the nice picture of open water will not be making the passage through the northern (north east) passage without the assistance of a nuclear powered ice breaker.
Thanks Chilly. Amongst other things that answers your own question for you! Regarding your final paragraph, particularly around the Vilkitsky Strait conditions were worse last year, yet numerous vessels ultimately made it through the NSR:
http://econnexus.org/the-russian-northern-fleet-takes-a-trek-along-the-northern-sea-route/
How many make it through this year, with or without assistance, remains to be seen. In case you hadn’t noticed, the ice is still melting.
is this the first vessel to make the passage jim ? some 2 months or so after the date the first passage has taken place over the last few years. using nuclear powered ice breakers hardly implys a natural passage.
you may want to look at air temps and sea surface temps before you make the claim about the melting in that region as well,if you have a friend working in the region,it also helps to know exactly what is occurring as opposed to what some forecasters think is happening jim,makes life so much easier 😉
There you go Chilly. Especially for you and your friend. SST and air temperatures conveniently gathered together in one place for your education and edification:
http://GreatWhiteCon.info/resources/arctic-sea-ice-graphs/#DmiSST
In his recent “Arctic Shipping Update” Steve/Tony suggested the NSR would be “closed for business” this year. He now seems to have changed his tune?
… crickets.
Oops – should’ve pressed ‘refresh’!
My Arctic Ice Forecast: if we repeat 2013 at the end of the melt season, it’ll be a miracle.
Reason: solar radiations are high, considerably higher than last year and above what I thought they’d be at this time.
DMI graphs for ice extent and NP temps are already reflecting this “forcing”: In the last few days NP temps have been at the “daily mean reanalysis” values or above (DMI green curve)
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
while in 2013 they were lower than the climatology expected values.
I hope I’m wrong. 🙁
Mmmm. Perhaps you may want to glance at that chart again. The horizontal blue line indicates 273 Kelvin to the nearest increment. And note that the trend of green curve is now downward and below the blue line, as is the red line for this year. In fact, the melt season has ended. Winds, incursions of warmer water from the Pacific and Atlantic can still affect ice cover, but the melt season really is over. While the weather may indeed be clear, each day the angle of incidence is more acute, which means less energy reaches the ice and thus less sublimation (ice can still vanish into vapour without melting if it is not renewed).
Yes, there is very little melt left, but the present numbers/trend both in DMI and from NORSEX, if extrapolated, give a 2014 ice extent below 2013 at the end of the season.
Even if the trend continues I don’t think the difference would be large though, but it’d give the alarmists fuel enough to continue their babbling for another year or so.
I hope it will revert in the next couple of weeks, if the solar radiations stabilize at low levels again as it was at the beginning of the month.
The oscillations of the intensity of the radiations have been dramatic in the last ~ 5 months, after a strong peak in February.
Meanwhile back in the Real World:
https://twitter.com/jim_hunt/statuses/503890463708155904
Impressive – they’ve completed 0% of the Northwest Passage.
🙂
out of interest ,how many ships have made the northern passage so far jim ?
So you are crowing because the Bremen could not navigate Peel Sound as planned but has to cross into Franklin Strait via Bellot Strait???
“Meanwhile back in the Real World:”
As if you would know…
Need I say more?
https://twitter.com/jim_hunt/statuses/503973605840289792
Nope, you just made my point.
Jim is hoping to melt the ice by talking incessantly.
the northern sea route jim,i am hardly likely to ask about the the north west passage which is closed.
HAHAHA!!! Say more? Jim, I think it’s dead. The horse, that is.
just how many ships have completed the northern passage jim ?
Would that be the Northern Sea Route or the northern route through the NW Passage or????
Jim a word to the wise : The next time you photoshop the position of a ship in the Northwest passage, try not to place it slap bang in the middle of 9+ concentration ice!
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/WIS38CT/20140825180000_WIS38CT_0007834141.pdf
Anything – Ever tried DYOR? If anyone is fiddling with Photoshop it most certainly is not moi! Maybe it’s Hapag-Lloyd?
http://www.hl-cruises.com/ships/ms-bremen/ship-positions/
No need for time-consuming research when a poster provides a link, so a belated thanks for that.
The Bremen is now heading north, away from the passage, apparently to link up with an ice-breaker,
http://northwestpassage2014.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/mv-bremen-transits-bellot-strait-to.html
That SHOULD tell you all you need to know about conditions in the area.
Please educate us Jim….What stokes this fascination warmists’ have for disseminating false data?
Anything – An appropriate link was already available on a previous thread before Steve/Tony moved the goalposts.
Hugh – What false data would that be then?
Hugh, even more fascinating from a psychiatric point of view is some people’s sick pleasure when they convince themselves they found a proof that CO2 is causing a runaway warming and we will all get cooked. Did you hear about the “cannibal cop” convicted of conspiracy to kidnap and cook women?
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cannibal-cooking-inmates-guards-prison-article-1.1783911
Nice picture 😉
Reality shows a different scene!
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Today I’ve taken the decision to head for Greenland then Newfoundland. We’ve simply run out of time. There is still no sign of any significant breakup of the ice in Larsen/Franklin which will allow us to get clear of Barrow Point (Alaska) before the refreeze sets in. Given that the air temperatures in the Canadian Arctic are colder than average this summer I believe it’s likely that the refreeze will be early. I’m not prepared to overwinter in the Canadian Arctic so the decision was easy to make. This will simply be a pause in out attempt to sail through the Northwest Passage as I plan to continue next summer if conditions allow.
We’ve had a great time up here in Canada and Greenland and met some wonderful people. I hope we all stay in touch.
Good Sailing, Happy Days a hwyl am y tro! Dai
🙂 ” Given that the air temperatures in the Canadian Arctic are colder than average this summer ” just lucky the ice doesnt reach the dizzy heights of those blow torch warm air systems the frivolous kid kept posting on the arctic ice forum . maybe next melt season he will focus at what happens at sea level.
Tourist icebreaker Nat. Geog. (NG) Explorer last seen off Cornwallis island.
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shipposition.phtml?call=C6WR2
and has given up and gone east
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shipposition.phtml?call=C6WR2
Uh oh. Better get out Reggie’s blowtorch again…
http://northwestpassage2014.blogspot.com/2014/08/canadian-flotilla-to-retrace-path-of.html
Fascinating to read on the NW Passage blog for 22 Aug that the M/V Silver Explorer and a Canadian CG ice breaker sent to assist were both stuck in ice. Sounds like a spinoff television show: Ship of Fools, North Edition.
Of course the North West Passage is open. I understand that quite a few aircraft have made it through so far.
🙂
Has anyone else got a fake map and a cartoon picture to photoshop on to it?
Palm trees any one?
Jim’ll break out his crayons and give us an artist’s impression of a triumphant NWP crossing if we’re lucky.
😆
roflmao
MAINSTREAM LAST FIRST 2013
What We Are Trying To Achieve
On July 1st, 2013 four modern-day explorers hope to become the first people to traverse the Northwest Passage solely under human power in a single season – one of the Earth’s last great firsts.
Ice in Greenland… For the luv of AL, how is this possible….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzCsQsmipq0
Is MS Bremen heading back east through the Bellot Strait?
http://www.hl-cruises.com/ships/ms-bremen/ship-positions/
It certainly looks that way. To be fair, that is what Doug suggested might happen:
http://northwestpassage2014.blogspot.com/2014/08/mv-bremen-transits-bellot-strait-to.html