The 97% consensus quoted daily by Barack Obama is based on a few fraudulent studies of a handful of published papers.
The only study which actually asked the scientists was done by the American Meteorological Society in 2013. It showed that only 52% of professional members believed the cause of global warming was “mostly human.” Among professional forecasters, the number was closer to 38%. No group came anywhere close to 97%.
http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/BAMS-D-13-00091.1
Tony, you are a voice of reason!
52%? Just wait until the CAGW enthusiasts “adjust” the poll for time of observation and urban heat island effect. ” Wow! 143%! Highest percentage evah!”
I’m a member of the American Chemical Society, which wouldn’t dare ask for fear of the same result.
I WAS a member of the American Chemical Society for close to forty years. When they came out with their endorsement of CAGW WITHOUT asking the membership I quit.
Where the hell is Martin to spew a pack of lies? I am overdue for my daily dose of troll mocking.
I banned him.
I’m not normally a fan of banning, but when you have a troll that is a serial liar (like Drewski and Marty), it really is best to squash the noise. Debate is good, lying is intolerable.
And here I was thinking he was just out getting his ID# 10t input controller error on the computer keyboard fixed.
Tony, I don’t blame you at all. Martin is an odd case. You have posted an extraordinary amount of information that supports the idea that the temperature records are not only being changed, but they are being changed in a fraudulent fashion. I could understand if Martin’s response had been, “I see what you have posted, but I still do not think it is adequate documentation for the serious nature of the charges” or, even better, “there is a flaw in chart such and such…” Instead his constant claims of “You have posted NO EVIDENCE…” shows an utter lack of either mental ability, or of personal ethics. My opinion? Lack of ethics.
… an utter lack of either mental ability, or of personal ethics. My opinion? Lack of ethics.
Mental health experts call it “lying”.
I think trolls like that are not doing what they do as a hobby. I think it is their assignment from whatever “organization” they are working for. Who has time to try to post a response to every comment they see that they disagree with? There has to be more to it.
I agree that he was unlikely to be simply a concerned reader.
I notice we seem to have a few replacements already.
Having a new person with a similar modus operandi would be further evidence that someone is assigning others to disrupt the blog with a steady stream of obfuscation.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-a7KPmOnok&w=640&h=360%5D
“…dead as a beaver hat”.
I expected it to happen. I thought his lying was useful for a while, highlighting the alarmist contradictions but it became increasingly bizarre.
I was joking here that he “must have studied climate science under Richard ‘Racehorse’ Haynes” but I was still amazed when he later came up with arguments like from the legendary lawyer’s lectures. *)
Martin claimed here that I quoted him out of context and in the same post he seems to have argued that he never said it in the first place.
I think the American legal doctrine calls it “alternative pleading” and a good attorney should have consecutive backup positions to argue for his client when the original ones become untenable but I’d hate to have a dimwit for a defender who tries to argue all of them at the same time.
Good riddance.
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http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/richard_racehorse_haynes
I’m going to miss Gail’s long and detailed rebuttals to his behavior. I’ve learned nearly as much from her as I’ve learned from this blog. Her patience with that gadfly was quite admirable, too.
WHO ME?
http://www.ncagr.gov/markets/livestock/goatandsheep/images/IMG_1590_000.JPG
No, not the one in the photo., Gail. 🙂
I’m in the building construction industry. So all of your and Tony’s scientific information has been a boon to my knowledge.
I second that. Gail is a fountain of knowledge and I very much appreciate her postings. You wouldn’t believe how much of Gail’s comments I have copied, especially on topics I am interested in and have lead me to additional research and more knowledge on said topics.
Don’t ever stop posting Gail, I look forward to many more from you.
Thanks bunches!
This is what the AMS said in their Discussion of the survey..” Our findings regarding the degree of consensus about human-caused climate change among the most expert meteorologists are similar to those of Doran and Zimmerman (2009) : 93% of active publishing climate scientists indicated they are convinced that humans have contributed to global warming. Our findings also revealed that majorities of climate experts view human activity as the primary cause of recent climate change, 78% of climate experts actively publishing on climate change, 73% of all people actively publishing on climate change, and 62% of active publishers who mostly do not publish on climate change. These results, together with those of other similar studies, suggest high levels of expert consensus about human-caused climate change…”
I agree the “97% of Climate Scientists ” claim is false, but their conclusion above is interesting, in that they have taken a result that clearly shows that only 52% of all respondents to the survey believe that humans are responsible for climate change, but they are only concerned with those in the survey who are actively publishing on climate change.
Its amazing how they can take their own survey and state something different to the result, as their conclusion.
You can’t publish on the climate UNLESS you agree that humans are responsible for warming.
The CAGW get out of Peer-review Free Card.
http://jacemasula.com/monopoly/ccjail.jpg
Joan Feynman and her co-authors manage some subtle zingers in their Get Out of Jail Card.
Solar variability and climate change’ Geomagnetic aa index and global surface temperature</a?
E.W. Cliver •and V. Borikoff •
Air Force Research Laboratory, Hanscom Air Force Base, Massachusetts
J. Feynman
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California
This is why the Abstract is often at odds with the rest of the paper. As long as the Abstract bows to the gods of Acadamia the gatekeepers don’t bother to look at the rest of the paper.
You guys are applying you own internal moral compass to the scammers. Marxism is an amoral philosophy; they totally reject the concept of moral absolutes. They are incapable of telling an untruth since whatever they are saying at the time is the truth by definition. In their twisted minds, Bill and Hillary have never told an untruth and I believe they go to bed each night with a clear conscience.
That is why it is important for the sane to point out the lies, and the liars. Right and wrong exist.
Bill Clinton shifted our national view of deceit. His well publicised lies, and his ability to dismiss all critism of his actions while holding the highest office in the land, sent a clear message to future generations. It is up to us to teach the young that his behaviour is not acceptable.
Hey gator, “Right and wrong exist.”
Yes. Of course we all know that some situations are grey — but far too many people seem to have reached the conclusion that since some situations are grey, then they must ALL be grey. Well, no. Not all things are grey. Perhaps there is such a thing as “ethical color blindness”, where everything is a shade of grey. If there is, that is not the sort of society I would want to live in. That is also not a society that will last very long before it self destructs.
Why haven’t the DMI arctic ice extent graphs been updated since January 8th?
Of 12,000 papers studied, only 65 had explicit endorsement that >50% warming caused by man. That is 0.54%. Which, when homogenized per standard Climate Industrial Complex methods and procedures, equals 97%.
lol
97% ?? Reminds me of election results in the old Soviet Union … ever notice how statist tyrants have to have near unanimous approval to show the world the justice of their position?
I don’t trust anything over 75% for anything but the most common and basic truisms, e.g. if you did a survey and found that 98% of people agreed that “water is wet,” I’d trust that survey.
Other “truisms” are a bit trickier … ask the folk at Barrow, Alaska on 21 Jun if the sun rises in the east … the results should be interesting.
True science is tricky and anyone claiming huge numbers to prove the validity of their position is engaging in something disreputable.
I’m guessing the sun didn’t rise at all in Barrow on June 21, since it never set the day before.
American Meteorological Society just commissioned George Mason Univ to conduct another survey of AMS members. Email went out this week. Here’s a link to see the meat of the 2016 survey: https://hifast.wordpress.com/2016/01/16/ams-online-survey-2016/
George Mason Univ???
Are they using Jagadish Shukla? I would think he is to busy shredding documents, scrubbing e-mails, packing up his millions and scrambling to get out of the USA before his is detained on RICO charges.
Steve McIntyre’s detailed analysis of Shukla’s OOPs
Isn’t there some expression about putting lipstick on a pig?
http://www.johnlund.com/Images/Lipstick-Pig.jpg
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A pig has feelings too.
If I was in the US, I’d vote for the top one as president..
It has far more personality than the bottom one.
The bottom one looks like it belongs in a lunatic asylum.
Not only ‘looks like’ !
But than government is a form of lunatic asylum.
I have had pigs.
I would certainly vote for one of my pigs over most politicians.
Pigs are smarter, cleaner and more honest. Pigs are one of the cleanest barnyard animals going. I have seen one of my pigs, get up, leaver her shelter and go to her toilet spot in a major snow storm rather than dirty her sleeping area. Pigs are also the smartest animal in the barnyard too. They can be house broken and taught tricks. (My boar would sit-up and beg for a treat like a dog.) link
Pigs are only dirty if forced into confinement in concrete buildings like the USDA mandates.
Concrete floors not only cripple a pig with arthritis they are life threatening. Pigs need mud puddles to cool off and need to eat dirt for certain nutrients. link
The upper picture is lipstick on a pig. The lower picture is lipstick on a shrew.