The 1930’s Was Much Hotter And Drier In The US

The frequency of hot days in the US during the 1930’s was much higher than it is now.

Total burn acreage was also much higher.

Indicator 3.16: Area and percent of forest affected by abiotic agents

The correlation between hot weather and burn acreage is almost perfect.

Government climate experts tell us that the US is getting hotter and fires are increasing. Both claims are completely false, and the people making these claims need to be removed from positions of influence.

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5 Responses to The 1930’s Was Much Hotter And Drier In The US

  1. AndyOz says:

    There are a number also in Australia (CSIRO & BOM), in the Universities and in UKMet.
    And have a truth & reconciliation commission that unmasks the main offenders.
    The fraudulent adjustments must be stopped.

  2. Gail Combs says:

    The Gruniad: Trump bans agencies from ‘providing updates on social media or to reporters

    Badlands National Park defied that order and had the Tweet removed.

    Badlands Nat’l Park (@BadlandsNPS)

    Today, the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is higher than at any time in the last 650,000 years. #climate


    Another UnCivil servant shows they Do NOT consider themselves as serving the USA but consider themselves our Masters.
    Secret Service Agent: I’ll Go To Jail Before I Take A Bullet For Trump
    ‘I would take jail time over a bullet or an endorsement for what I believe to be disaster to this country and the strong and amazing women and minorities who reside here.’
    Executive Order 10988, President John F. Kennedy’s executive order allowing federal employees the right to collective bargaining.
    “That notion has come under attack recently. Nonetheless, federal unions labor on, seeking, in the words of the order, to provide workers “an opportunity for greater participation in the formulation and implementation of policies and procedures affecting the conditions of their employment.”…” (wwwDOT)

    That is a complete laugh. Federal Employees are the most PRIVILEGED employees in the USA.

    HOWEVER, they forget that the PRIVILEGES GRANTED civil servants are privileges that can be removed. At this time, when Main Street workers don’t know if they will have a job next month, those privileges are highly resented. I would not be surprised to find Trump is getting the media to highlight the corruption in the Federal Bureaucracy as part of a plan to eventually reshape the entire civil servant privilege system. The firing guidelines must really really irk Trump.

    The Daily Caller has a good article on that privilege system:
    Here’s Why It’s All But Impossible To Fire A Fed

    …it’s no wonder that bureaucratic horror stories are so common. The Daily Caller News Foundation, for example, recently reported Environmental Protection Agency officials let an employee convicted of stealing thousands of dollars worth of equipment from the EPA back to work after a 30-day suspension. Another EPA employee was convicted of sneaking marijuana and marijuana pipes into a federal facility, but went back to work after a 21-day suspension.

    The embattled Department of Veterans Affairs said it will take no less than 275 days to take disciplinary action against a nurse charged with operating on a veteran while drunk, due to the complex and time-consuming hoops administrators have to jump through, according another DCNF report.

    Federal workers have enjoyed incredible job security for a long time, thank to layers of bureaucracy, complicated employment laws, well-funded and politically powerful government unions, and multiple incentives against firing anyone, former federal personnel officials told TheDCNF.

    …Morris and former colleague Patrick Korten, who worked as OPM’s executive assistant director for communications and policy, would know. They listed every possible step a manager had to take to fire an incompetent federal employee using old computer paper. Their boss, then-OPM Director Donald J. Devine, often rolled that paper out for congressional committees.

    “It was a demonstration of, if someone chooses to follow every single twist and turn in the regulations, this is how it could turn out,” Korten said.

    It stretched 30 feet….

    The roll would probably stretch much longer than 30 feet today, Morris and Korten said, thanks to the increasing strength of federal employee unions and failures by succeeding presidents from both political parties to make it a priority to reward high performers and get rid of poor performers in the federal bureaucracy.

    Dealing with unions, the formal civil service grievance process, and internal agency requirements usually takes months, not days or weeks. If an employee appeals to the Merit Systems Protection Board — an entire agency devoted to hearing and adjudicating employees’ grievances — it can take more time. And federal court appeals can take years, Morris said….

    It’s an uphill battle, even in seemingly obvious cases. Federal law requires agencies, in instances of criminal misconduct, to prove the criminal activity hurts the agency’s mission, Morris said….

  3. I’d wager that burn acreage during National Prohibition had a lot to do with distilling having been forced into the woods. There was no way for it to not involve fire, and burning the area on approach of revenooers was a way to destroy evidence of the heinous crime–that had until recently been a normal business. This is one of the many ways in which the resort to coercion backed by deadly force is fraught with unintended consequences–including unintended financial and economic consequences.

  4. Karl F. Wheatley says:

    Given your headline, you used the wrong data here for both hotter and drier, so your blog post does NOT prove what your headline claimed. Whether the U.S. as nation was hotter in the 1930s or now is a question that can only be answered by looking at the AVERAGE temperature across the U.S then and now. And if you do that, the U.S. is warmer/hotter now on average than it was in the 1930s.

    Your first chart is also mislabeled: “The frequency of hot days in the US during the 1930’s was much higher than it is now.” An 80 degree day is a hot day, an 87 degree day is a hot day—especially if the humidity is high. Thus, your chart was not really even a chart of “hot days.”

    Cherry-picking the number of 95-degree days then and now may fool some people who don’t understand climate science, but that tells us zero about whether the nation is warmer or cooler ON AVERAGE. Many places never get to 95 degrees, so that metric is useless for judging whether that location is getting warmer or not. More generally, number of 95 degrees is simply the wrong data for judging whether and area is getting warmer.

    Similarly, number of acres burned in wildfires in the 1930s vs. now is an unscientific indicator of how dry the nation was and is. The scope of fires declined because people have moved into more of the areas that used to burn way back then, don’t want their homes and cities to burn AND we VASTLY SUPERIOR fire suppression methods now.

    Under the chart of the acreage burned by forest fires in the U.S., you write “Government climate experts tell us that the US is getting hotter and fires are increasing. Both claims are completely false, and the people making these claims need to be removed from positions of influence.” Actually, YOUR claims are false: Acreage burned IS increasing compared to recent decades (when we already had better firefighting methods) and the U.S. IS getting warmer. Thus, your calls for removing anyone from office are laughably unwarranted.

    Given that you are well-trained in science, I find it hard to believe that you didn’t know this was the wrong data and thus does not support your false conclusions.

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