Greenland Blowing Away All Records For Ice Gain

Greenland Ice Sheet Surface Mass Budget: DMI

Greenland’s surface has gained 470 billion tons of ice since August, which is more than 100 billion tons above average for the date.

Meanwhile, government funded experts continue to lie about the state of the Arctic in real time. Their funding depends on them lying and claiming the exact opposite of what is actually occurring.

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59 Responses to Greenland Blowing Away All Records For Ice Gain

  1. Latitude says:

    I’m sure we will see this reflected in sea levels……….< snark

    • AZ1971 says:

      Don’t forget the drop in sea levels due to all of the rainfall over Australia in recent years (I’ll even use a liberal source like NPR for warmists to know it’s “reliable”):
      http://www.npr.org/2013/08/20/213577129/how-extreme-australian-rains-made-global-sea-levels-drop

    • Ian Graber-Stiehl says:

      Hi, science journalist here. It’s usually helpful to read the whole thing “Over the year, it snows more than it melts, but calving of icebergs also adds to the total mass budget of the ice sheet. Satellite observations over the last decade show that the ice sheet is not in balance. The calving loss is greater than the gain from surface mass balance, and Greenland is losing mass at about 200 Gt/yr.” That’s roughly 329,591,081,966.392 tons of ice being lost every year. Happy to explain any further improper or misinformed citation. Have a nice day.

      Best,
      Ian Graber-Stiehl

      • tonyheller says:

        Let me fix that for you : “flawed interpretations of satellite observations, done by people whose funding depends on climate alarmism”

  2. Gator says:

    Ms Griff needs to explain to these sailors that they are simply imagining things…

    https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2017/02/100-sailors-trapped-ice-near-arctic-outpost

  3. Brad says:

    I feel an ‘adjustment’ to the Greenland ice surface mass budget coming soon.

  4. Theyouk says:

    Gain ice mass now….birth abundant icebergs later. Perhaps a bit more danger in the North Atlantic this spring/summer?

    • neal s says:

      While I don’t doubt that eventually there will be more icebergs later from the current increased SMB accumulation in Greenland, I would not at all be surprised if this took years or decades to occur. I am curious why you might imagine the effects would be felt within less than a year? Do you have any evidence that might suggest this?

      • Theyouk says:

        Hi Neal–Interesting question on latency between depositing of snow and eventual calving. I would guess that the ‘pushing toward the sea’ may be tempered in winter due to colder temps (the same reason one climbs Rainier in the dark/early morning–before the ice starts moving) but would be rather rapid once spring/summer hit. I’ve done zero research on this issue (other than hiking glaciers), so welcome any insights!

  5. Squidly says:

    I actually find this far more disturbing than any supposed “warming”. This does not seem good to me. Cold=Death.

  6. Evan Lang says:

    Wait a minute, you buried the lead!!! Look at that graph again. Look at the 1990-2017 mean line. It indicates that for the past 27 years, Greenland has been GAINING an average of 300 billion tons of ice per year!

    Am I reading that wrong?

  7. Caleb says:

    My take is that the heavy snows in GReenland are caused by a meridional pattern, which I surmise is brought on by the “Quiet Sub”. The alarmists only focus on the warmer aspects of this pattern. For examples the same flow that clobbers Greenland with snow will make Svalbard above normal this winter, so expect headlines about Svalbard. However this pattern has also brought cold air south to Arabia, back at the start of February. Parts of UAE that hadn’t seen snow in living memory experienced a day when the usually-baked deserts were whitened by snows driven by strong winds. Rather than thinking it was a charming event apparently people were freaked out. See any mainstream headlines about the event.

    It has been so long since we have experienced a Quiet Sun that we have no reliable, modern records to give us a hint what we are in for. Scientists should study that, and quit with the bleeping propaganda.

    • Caleb says:

      Oops. I meant “quiet sun” not “Quit sub”.

      For some reason my old computer won’t accept this site any more so I have to use my cell phone. And I’m no good typing on a cell phone.

      • neal s says:

        I suggest you use freecarrierlookup.com on your cellphone number to find out the sms and mms gateway address for your cellphone. Then using your favorite editor on your computer, you can compose your post, then send it to your cellphone via email using the address you got from freecarrierlookup. Then on your cellphone, use the copy/paste utility.

        Also gives you another chance to proof read things ….

      • RAH says:

        You still using Microsoft XP or something?

        • Colorado Wellington says:

          I hope people with knowledge of our Quiet Sub technology don’t use Windows XP—or any other Windows OS—whether or not it can bring heavy snows to Greenland … :)

        • AndyG55 says:

          Firefox on XP has no problems

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            XP was very stable and I liked it but it’s bad enough how many security problems Windows operating systems have even while MS keeps releasing patches. We must all use the same precaution but it’s good to consider that after April 8 2014 the remaining holes in XP—known or not—will never be fixed.

    • Andy says:

      How is the quiet sun making Antarctic sea ice extent flip from being very much larger than average 2 years back to being very much lower than average now?

      Clue, it isn’t. Same for Arctic.

      Andy

  8. gofer says:

    Scott Adams, of Dilbert fame, wrote a post on climate science and persuasion. Of course, in the comments, the usual suspects show up and the lie of Greenland melting appears along with same old tiresome talking points.

    He referenced Plimer, then said he has connection to oil companies, which was a strike against him in being persuasive. Scott seems to feel the alarmist have most of the scientists on their side. The concerted effort to silence dissent appears to have worked. Here is hoping that the silence will change to a roar from those who have been threatened and oppressed.

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/156804833096/the-persuasion-advantage-and-climate-science

  9. hunter says:

    Once again the skeptical position regarding an important climate consensus claim is demonstrated to be justified.

  10. Andy says:

    Well all that cold air from the Arctic had to go somewhere, as you stated Tony, it’s gone to Greenland

    http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/1999/02/airtemp.png

    Meanwhile, unreported on here, because they are alternative facts … ;) —->

    “Arctic sea ice extent for January 2017 averaged 13.38 million square kilometers (5.17 million square miles), the lowest January extent in the 38-year satellite record”

    “Extent is tracking at records (sic) low levels in the Southern Hemisphere”

    http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2017/02/2017-ushers-in-record-low-extent/

    Andy

    • pmc47025 says:

      Andy, is there a point to your post?

      “38-year satellite record”, lol…

      Opinion:
      NSIDC is a (political?) arm of a corrupt government, could be alternate facts, how would we know? Recent information overload (internet, social media, etc) has generated a real problem with differentiating BS from truth. When I see an independent and credible (?) scientific study that shows the cause of past, sometimes huge (™) climate change that doesn’t use words like hypothesis, may, could, might, etc, and, shows good evidence that climate variables are known, and, shows CO2 causes significant (?) warming, I might hope human generated CO2 can prevent or delay the next glacial period.

      Nobody can predict how the climate might change. We (the government “we”? yeah right) should be preparing for a variety of climate changes. The climate will change.

      I feel better now, where’s my beer?

    • AndyG55 says:

      Its also gone to northern Russia, CAnda, Alaska..

      You know.. places where lots of people try to live.

      But what do the AGW scummers CARE if a few million people have to suffer even colder winters than usual, so long as they can have a plaintive yep about the Arctic sea ice in one small section of the KAra Sea.

      • AndyG55 says:

        Just a small patch of warm anomaly over the Kara Sea, rest of Arctic is its normal FROZEN self.

        And look at the BIG FREEZE over Alaska, Canada and Russia

        A bit of “less cold” over the Kara sea in winter hurts no-one,

        “More cold” during the northern winter, is much more dangerous.

  11. John Niclasen says:

    The danish Hollywood-star, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, has joined the battle against climate change:

    http://www.b.dk/kultur/coster-waldau-paa-tynd-is-i-kamp-mod-klimaforandringer

    Some tanslation:

    “Coster-Waldau on thin ice: In the battle against climate change
    The danish Hollywood-star has been in Greenland with Google Maps to document the climate changes.

    – I hope that the opportunity to see Greenland in panoramic images on your phone will make people fall in love with the unique nature of Greenland, as I have done, says Nikolaj Coster-Waldau in a press release.

    Along with Google Maps, the star actor has taken pictures of his favorite places in Greenland.”

    His wife is from Greenland.

    Some places get less ice, and other places like the little populated East Greenland and the inner icesheet seem to get a lot more ice. So Google Maps will be able to document loss of ice in some places, I guess.

    We need more documentation on how celebrities advocated failed science in the past.

  12. John Niclasen says:

    The ice in Greenland for most part flow slower today than in the past 9000 years.

    Scientists Map Movement of Greenland Ice During Past 9,000 Years
    https://news.utexas.edu/2016/02/04/scientists-map-movement-of-greenland-ice-sheet-over-time-0

  13. RAH says:

    Talk about being blown away:
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/downtime/semi-truck-crushes-patrol-car-in-wyoming/vi-AAmOMD3?ocid=spartanntp
    I-80 in Wyoming is one of those places where you really have to watch out. However, had that cop car not been there and had the driver been skilled enough he/she might have managed to keep the shinny side up by steering downwind and running off the road a little. If the terrain and weather conditions allow it is generally better to run off the road than to go over.

    I was nearly blown off I-80 west of that location (Elk Mountain) when the road was icy. The only thing that saved me was a bank of old and thus hard, plowed snow. It blew me across both lanes and the shoulder and there wasn’t a thing I could do about it. Hitting the plowed icy snow with the trailer tandems allowed me to recover. Without that berm of plowed snow I would have been pushed into the newer snow and almost certainly would have jackknifed. So it was just plain dumb luck that saved me. BTW jackknifed trucks are often totaled due to damage to the frame.

    • Colorado Wellington says:

      It’s the gusts that scare me. I’ve travelled up and down Wyoming in strong steady winds at times and I felt comfortable with reduced speed, accounting for the sideways pressure. Once I was going North—at a safe distance—behind a group of bikers that looked really funny as they were all leaning at the same angle to the West, into the steady wind. This was in the summer, of course, when they didn’t have to worry about ice.

      I’ve never seen anyone overturn but I watched quite a few pickups, vans and even cars yanked by the gusts and getting blown from lane to lane. After that they all suddenly developed a strong urge to slow down, and a couple of times I saw them in the rear view mirror recovering their “courage” on the highway shoulder behind me. Also, a pretty large percentage had out-of-state plates. Wyoming has some dumb yahoos like every other place but most residents have learned already what wind can do to them.

      I hate the gusts but that’s the price of living in the West (we had them yesterday). And hitting ice with strong sideways winds, gusty or not, is always more interesting than I care for. I got lucky myself a few times when there was enough space for me to stay on the road and with the wheels facing the right way.

      • Gail Combs says:

        I hate gusty winds especially when dragging a trailer with a pickup. If there is nothing in the bed you do not have much traction on the drive wheels. I do like that nice heavy Cummins engine over my steers

      • RAH says:

        Actually travel trailers and such being towed using a ball hitch are probably the least stable of all rigs in high winds and the worst to try an manage on slick roads even when they have the tongue weight right. That is with the exception of the oversized trailers and modular units. Of course the amount of weight one has in the trailer on a rig is a major factor in how high of winds it can sustain. Also side skirts help to make a trailer more stable and less likely to roll over in a side wind. Contrary to what one might think it’s not so much the freeboard catching wind down low that counteracts that hitting the sides of the trailer higher up but the fact that the skirts keep the wind from getting under the trailer and lifting it up.

        There was another time on I-70 in central Kansas that I ran ahead of the big blow. Heard about it on the CB and pulled into a truck stop and got in next to other trucks just in time. Even rigs

        • Colorado Wellington says:

          True, I forgot to mention trailers and campers. A large percentage of the near-accidents in wind I saw was with those. One of my worst near-accidents was not because of wind but my own stupidity when I was towing a heavy trailer loaded with bricks. It happened in a very gentle curve but I was clearly going too fast when it hit a bump and started yanking me from side to side. I was able to slow down and steady it but I called myself a lot of interesting names in multiple languages.

          • RAH says:

            The most stable load I can ever remember hauling in a big truck was Bronze ingots. Two open top short boxesa bout 4′ x 4′ by 24″ high. One nailed to the floor over the rear tandems and the other up in the nose over the metal bearing plate with just the rear part of box nailed to the wooden floor. Those two boxes weighed about 43,000 lbs as I recall.

  14. RAH says:

    Shoot “shinny” should be – shiny!

  15. Dale says:

    Actually, the link provided says the following: “Over the year, it snows more than it melts, but calving of icebergs also adds to the total mass budget of the ice sheet. Satellite observations over the last decade show that the ice sheet is not in balance. The calving loss is greater than the gain from surface mass balance, and Greenland is losing mass at about 200 Gt/yr.”

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