In yesterday’s hearing, top climate fraudster Mikey Mann ranted that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is collapsing due to your SUV. Forty years ago this same scam was the lead story in the Chicago Tribune, but the National Science Foundation said at the time that it has nothing to do with climate.
We’re doing about the most we can do right now to study the possible collapse of the west ice sheet,” said Dr. Richard Cameron, NSF program manager for glaciology
We’re seeing the West ice sheet on its way out,” said Cameron. It seems to be doing something completely different than the east ice sheet. It has nothing to do with a warmer climate, just the dynamics of unstable ice.
It is a rather rapid change for an area that we thought was so static for such an awful long time.
January 9, 1977 – Flood threat from polar ice | Chicago Tribune
At the time, scientists were pushing global cooling, which they said caused the Polar Vortex. Now they blame the Polar Vortex on global warming.
International Team of Specialists Finds No End in Sight to 30‐Year Cooling Trend in Northern Hemisphere – The New York Times
Had either of them done any actual research, they would have known that the Ross Ice Shelf has been rapidly retreating for centuries.
One might expect that a collapsing Antarctic ice sheet would cause southern hemisphere sea levels to rise, but sea level at Sydney is the same as it was in 1910. At a rate of 0mm per century, it will take a long time to produce 20 feet of sea level rise.
Global Sea Level Trends – Mean Sea Level Trend
It is always about the money. From the 1977 Chicago tribune article.
the National Science Foundation, which oversees American interests in the Antarctic, has earmarked one-fourth of our $45 million research effort here to learn more about the threatening condition of the ice sheet
Alarmists repeat the same lies over and over again in these hearings, yet the GOP never seems prepared to pre-empt or deal with them.
Mann is one denizen of the swamp that needs draining even if he is at a University.
I am a Penn State alumnus. Between Jerry Sandusky and Michael Mann, I am no longer Penn State proud.
As has been said before, Michael Mann should be at the State Pen instead of Penn State.
It is a strange collapse that takes 40 years and more.
With the same vocabulary i am not in any way afraid of “rapid” melting.
That’s it! We (you) give them example after example of information that refutes their AGW theory and they ignore all of it and simply continue to repeat their talking points. They never address the arguments that destroy their argument. We (you) run around in circles digging up scientific information while they keep repeating their lies like a broken record. How do you deal with people like that?
You destroy them and the movement they promote on the political/social/ economic battlefields. Honest science cannot do it because as you noted they will ignore it or if it becomes too prominent, create fake “science” to refute it, like they did the pause. So the only way you defeat them is to bury them when you get the chance. In the end the end to engage and defeat any enemy you must meet them on THEIR turf and destroy them there. For decades now their turf has been the political field and that is where they must ultimately defeated. All the reports of gloom and doom from Academia have no impact if they are not politically supported in order to get the opinion of the public behind them. The average Joe doesn’t give a damn what papers are published in the journals. What they care about is if through the fruits of their labors they are making progress in making things better for themselves and their offspring.
Michael Mann is just another tool. You have to get the leaders. The people behind Agenda 21 and The club of Rome.
“How do you deal with people like that?”
You realize it’s a religion and they are the high priests and you cut off their flow of money.
Repent and believe, sinner!
YOU must believe!
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.
Forty years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes…
the dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!
Symmetrical book stacking. Just like the Philadelphia mass turbulence of 1947.
don’t wait another minute. Pick up the phone and call the professionals…
Marty Feldman at his best.
I was watching the normally very serious BBC 2 in 1969 or 1979 when that weather sequence played. I had never seen Marty Feldman before, and fell off my chair laughing.
Oh so appropriate for today’s AGW scam !
I’m a little confused here, looking for help:
The one that’s breaking off and will wipe out humanity is the “Larsen” ice shelf.
The “Ross” is on the other side and is merely melting, supposedly.
The Larsen is just a big iceberg that’s berthing, basically; it’s already floating for the most part and wouldn’t cause any sea level rise because it’s already displacing its own weight (more or less).
The Ross isn’t about to “break off” or anything.
So what’s the worry and where do they get the 20-feet of instantaneous SL rise?
I’m actually sort of confused about this issue, and certain family members of mine are living in abject fear over this.
Looks like Mann has been caught out lying on several issues. Judith Curry jumps on him when says he hasn’t called her a denier of climate science –“it’s in your written testimony”.
He is asked if he is affiliated in any way with the Climate Accountability Institute ( the outfit that tried to use the RICO laws against sceptics). Mann flustered and then said no but he clearly was as he is on their website.
Where I come from we call this “showing your true colours”
I must say that I REALLY hope that mickey Mann gets his comeuppance..
… and gets to spent some time in the State Penn with Bwuce, and Maybell.