Jonathon Amos at the BBC is telling a slightly different story than he did seven years ago
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Amos, like all BBC reporters is a liar for the green blob.
They get out anything before the deadline and then head for the pub.
Nah, they head out looking for “banana peanut butter milkshakes” since they are not old enough to shave yet.
Haha.. is that the purple drank “soft” option?
Interesting, cryosat has volume down slightly from 2013, while PIOMAS has it above
For this time of year, the Cryosphere chart shows the Arctic extent is higher than 2012 and 2013. Right now it shows the anomaly at -0.452 kilometers squared. That is a pretty small figure up against the millions of kilometers squared of ice up there. The visual daily graphic at NSIDC with the anomaly line included shows this almost insignificant difference.
This is the beginning of an admission that they were wrong
http://www.thedailystar.net/arctic-sea-ice-volume-holds-up-in-2014-55506
WE will be seeing more and more of these stories. It’s the only way MSM will handle the backdown. We will barely notice… In 10 years time it wont even be a story. Who remembers Y2K2 fiasco . NOONE not even me!
Eliza,
Note how boringly this story was written. “Ice may be more resilient”; yawn. Who cares about “resilient ice”? You’re right though, the back-down is in progress; think banality of evil.
More resilient than many observers realize? No. More resilient than modelers realize.
Are modelers capable of realizing anything of the real world? LOL.
Got me thinking about model observers. Has anyone asked them if it’s resilient?
I’d start with Dave, the prominent Australian model-ogler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmLmS0pOdvA
Not sure about resilience, but my observations show there clearly is a problem with the models…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJfx0d-mmIo
Dave says it’s all the moving parts. Too many inputs, forcings and feedbacks. Just can’t handle it. They are doing fine when brought to a standstill, though.
Models fail, oh my..
What do they mean by “more resilient”? I mean freezing is still freezing right? What a bunch of double speak.
Top five Synonyms for: “Resilient” as listed at Thesaurus.com
buoyant
strong
supple
tough
volatile
Now think about that. Someone please tell me which one(s) Amos meant?
Is the ice floating higher in the water relative to it’s mass? I think not.
Is the ice stronger than they thought it was? If so the how? I doubt that.
Is the ice more flexible that they thought it was? I don’t think so.
Is the ice tougher than they thought it was? How could that be?
Volatile? Of course not.
What he has done in this headline is twist the English language into a pretzel to avoid stating the obvious fact that the friggin ice has not melted and is not only still there but growing because it has been far colder then it was predicted to be.
And “observers”? Doesn’t he mean some scientists? I mean after all was it not some scientists that were predicting an “ice free” Antarctic by 2013? I don’t remember reading about “observers” being the ones to make that prediction.
My Granddaughter could have written a far more concise sentence. But then again she is a smart honest HS Sr. which makes her superior in intellect and communication skills the Amos and most the other cretins at the BBC.
Does she like banana peanut butter milkshakes? If so she may have a place waiting for her at the BBC.
I don’t know about the milkshakes but she has already been offered scholarships at several Universities. Carrying a 3.83 in a 4.0 system taking Honors classes for the last two years. She wants to be an MD. IUPUI (Indiana University Purdue University in Indianapolis) has offered her the best scholarship so far and so that is where she is planning to go. Pretty good system for Medical arts. Five Hospitals/Medical Centers in Indy alone.
Besides, like I said, she is too smart and more importantly far too honest to work for the BBC. She also has superior morals to the leadership of that organization.
Purdue is or at least was a very good school.
Yes, rah. Arctic ice is tougher. Hardened ice, at ease in hostile surroundings. Think Clinton Arkansas operatives, petroleum exchange Cockney traders, Russian muzhiks or Philip Marlowe. Not some feeble metrosexual milkshake ice made from San Francisco tap water, swilled by BBC correspondents. Hard-boiled ice, doing its thing. Won’t go soft on you just because it got pistol-whipped from behind or cooked a few dozen degrees over 32°F. Will go down but come back up to get even. That kind of ice. They have no clue who they are messing with.
“They have no clue who they are messing with.”
Now that is the understatement of the year when it comes to the warmists thinking they can outsmart mother nature. I guess it would also apply to all the misguided adventurers that have gotten their fannys very cold and frostbit trying to cross that ice to prove it is melting away.
Yes, BBC News is a good place to find official propaganda and most talented attempts to hide the truth.
For fifty-seven years, BBC successfully hid Japan’s atomic bomb. But KAZUO KURODA (aka Professor P. K. Kuroda) died in 2001 and his widow returned a military copy of how to build atomic bombs to the Japanese government.
In 2002, BBC finally reported that a copy of Japan’s plans for building atomic bombs had been missing for fifty-seven years (2002 – 1945 = 57 yr) and nobody knew Kuroda had them.
I am now convinced that Kuroda kept those plans to document deceit about the end of WWII, unreported FEAR of worldwide nuclear annihilation and a secret agreement of world leaders to Unite Nations in recruiting nuclear, solar and geo-physicists to build a giant “Matrix of Deceit” about the source of energy that destroyed Hiroshima.
Geeze, where is this mystery ice coming from? The oceans? Outer space?
🙂
Icy comets sneaking across the border past ICE?
With fast and furious guns! 🙂
Think of the most impossible convoluted rationale why arctic ice is growing due to warming and that’s what to expect. The normally focused cold has been spread out by the warming…which has contributed to our polar vortex…and small changes in lower temperature froze larger areas…
Something insane like that, at that’s what will hit the study circuit next. 2014 has been the year when we learned no amount of evidence will stop this train.
Last year the ‘Polar Vortex” was caused by open water in the Arctic…. in February. (Don’t bust a gut laughing.)
Receptionist: “How do you read climate scientists so well?”
Psalmon: “I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.”
It could also have been:
Receptionist: “How do you read climate scientists so well?”
Gail: “I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.”
No, No you have it all wrong!
Receptionist:“How do you read climate scientists so well?”
I think of Mann and I take away what little reason and accountability he has left.
+1
He has some left..?
That should be “Left”…
On the first day of chemistry class that I taught, the very first handout had at its beginning, one of many clever Mark Twain Stories that could have won a liars contest. In conclusion it read
“There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact”.
Then on the very first day two simple activities were done, one with good precision and poor accuracy and the other with just the opposite of the two. Then from class results, many factors of error analysis were determined. The point being, one must always determine and state limitations of results.
The inner circle of the climate science community has made a mockery of the scientific method. of which determining the range of errors and limitations of investigations is a significant part.
Here are two more of the many M. Twain quotes on science.
“All schools, all colleges have two great functions: to confer, and to conceal valuable knowledge.
” A man who keeps company with glaciers comes to feel tolerably insignificant by and by”.
One of the biggest lies in Climastrology is that you have to be a Climastrologist to ‘understand’ the science.
No, all you have to be is trained in the scientific method or logic and have an understanding of significant digits to see CAGW is a complete crock. The fact they hide their work is another BIG CLUE.
I do not have to be a geologist or a biologist to be able to read a paper and figure out whether or not I am reading science or baffle gab.
One benefit that I had being ‘old school’ is that I had to do everything on a slide rule.
(Try doing cube roots on a slide rule) The benefit was that I had to keep the decimal point’s place in my head. Therefore estimating and quantifying became a habit.
I have recommended that a calculator should not be used in schools until at least ninth grade. Two extreme weaknesses IMO in school and therefore in society are estimating (quantifying) and significant digits. (accuracy).
Preposterous ideas are accepted by a majority of the public because too many people all too often cannot function without some kind of instrument in hand and then they are unable to input the correct information.
It is interesting to note the basic requirements in English in Math to pass eighth grade 200 years ago.
Or just 120 years ago…
http://www.indiana.edu/~p1013447/dictionary/8thgradeexam.htm
gator69—I know less than 25% could pass it today, even if they access to a handbook of relative quantities, such as so many quarts in a bushel.
Yes, I had to use a slide rule also. I do not think computers of any type should be used in school for ANY work outside of computer labs. No calculators in math or science class, no type written essays or homework period.
At least if they plagiarize they have to copy it by hand and maybe some of the knowledge will stick on its way from the eye to the hand. Also it is much tougher to hand in someone elses work as yours because of individual hand writing styles.
I still carry a small circular slide rule I used in school in the ’70’s… the batteries don’t die and it has an engraved slide out chart of constants, conversions and a (now seriously dated) periodic table. Every now and then I pull it out in a meeting just to freak people out. I do agree with all that they should still be taught with as you understand scale and precision along with the relationships between numbers much better when you see all the intermediate values in a calculation. (I always hated doing roots as well ’cause you had to remember both the decimal places back and forth as well as the proper magnitude of the exponent… and your accuracy went to h*ll really quickly.)
It is worse: they can’t add nor subtract. This is how we balance the budget… 🙁
I graduated HS in 1983…and no, we could not use calculators in class or on tests. Yes, in physics and chem we were allowed slide rules. Mine was the last class that had that rule. My sister, who graduated in 1985, was allowed the use of a calculator at all times.
I remember when I was at IU in Bloomington, IN in the mid 70s seeing scientific calculators ranging from $250.00 to $400.00. My how times have changed.
RAH,
Did you know of Richard Blenz, I think he was a prof at IU (Physics??) and built a house inside a cave in Bloomington Indiana in the 1970’s. Also Dr. Richard Powell, Indiana state geologist who was affiliated with IU.
A little low on the high end rah. 😉 It was ’75 I picked up the latest Hp-65 for a steal(?) at $795. But I have to admit that even at that horrendously high price it allowed business to grow 40%/yr for the next five years solely because of that nifty handheld programmable calculator and it paid for itself many times over. Those were the fun days and was my #2 program ever written and sure got me hooked.
Gail
Didn’t “know” either of them but heard of Blenz. Goodness Gail that has been a lot of years ago. I remember things like skinny dipping in the limestone quarries and seeing every home game when IU went undefeated NCAA BB champs and can still name the starting five. I remember my 1972 Nova with a blown 396, positrac, Hurst 4 on the floor, and Creiger wheels with 70 series tires on the rear. I had to chain the engine down to the frame to keep from busting the right side motor mount. I remember my sweetheart Sharon Knight. I remember putting clown haired shag carpet in my dorm room in McNutt Quad.
I do remember some of the classes and what I learned in them too but the previous mentioned things somehow seem more prominent in my memory.
My maternal grandfather (6th grade schooling in the Jim Crow South) could do logs in his head and was quite proficient with a slide rule. He taught me (and maybe my sister, too) how to use one. The only calculators I could use in school were my head supplemented with a graphite pencil, paper; and yes, for some problems, the slide rule. Intel 4004 and TI (can’t remember what chip those early models had) were the exclusive province of the best science teachers at the time.
Said teachers all were beasts about the proper use of estimation, significant figures, and error propagation. I shudder to think what goes on these days in ‘education’, specifically about estimation, significant figures, error propagation, etc., both of the teachers and the students.
It’s the BBC. Zero credibility, and, the loathed Telly Tax.
Thanks to Climategate emails, I now know that my most trusted source of news has lied for years and now does not have the ability to admit that.
I.e., BBC, PBS, CBS, NBC, etc. are controlled by the same totalitarian government that controls leading research journals – Nature, Science, PRS, PNAS, etc. – and research organizations – NAS, RS, UN IPCC, NASA, DOE, NSF, EPA, NOAA, etc. – the government. George Orwell predicted in the book he started to write in 1946: “Nineteen Eighty-Four.”
Aka: the Bilderberg secret society that meets every year mostly in European resorts since WWII.
emsnews,
It doesn’t matter who the tyrants are. They have endangered the lives of everyone on Earth with false models of the star at the solar system’s center that sustains our lives and sometimes violently emits high energy radiation that can destroy many lives and all e-communications at Earth’s surface.
Homeland Security and FEMA know this and have acknowledged civilization is now vulnerable to such sudden radiation bursts.
Reblogged this on Help save our kids future.
Thanks in part to the protracted public debate over Climategate emails, even the most basic models of physics are being re-examined:
See: “How Today’s Top Scientists are gambling away scientific credibility”:
http://www.thehiggsfake.com/bankruptingphysics.html
Wow that pic BBC has of the Arctic, how come there are mountains in the arctic ocean?
I didn’t realize the Onion had purchased BBC’s science news division. I suppose it was inevitable.
Darn, now I have to clean my monitor and key board. One of the best insults I have read in a while.
I think the Onion is now syndicated and does the science section not only for the BBC, and Groiniad but also for the Huffington Post, The NY Times and the Australian too.