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So this graph is made from water temperature at the Antarctic where there are underwater volcanoes? I must have read it wrong because how could someone be so dumb as to say the worlds oceans are heating because water by an underwater volcano is warming?
They can’t be using ARGO buoys because they are showing the oceans are cooling.
Vulture tagged by Israeli scientists flies into Saudi Arabia … and is arrested for being a spy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344019/Vulture-tagged-Israeli-scientists-flies-Saudi-Arabia-arrested-spy.html#ixzz1A7mLNZyM
A vulture tagged by scientists at Tel Aviv University has strayed into Saudi Arabian territory, where it was promptly arrested on suspicion of being a Mossad spy, Israeli and Saudi media reported Tuesday.
and on another note:
The Sinai regional governor last month suggested that a shark that killed and maimed tourists on its Red Sea port may have been intentionally released by Israeli agents in order to sabotage the country’s tourist industry.
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How could the shark tell the difference between Jews and Muslims?
It was a nude beach…………………
ROFLMAO!!!!! Big Time!!!
The heat must have sunk under the cold water.
In Oceania, heat sinks.
so those studies and graphs are obvious fraud again. The water is colder now than in the past, Ice is increasing in Antarctica not melting, so it should be pretty easy to get a paper published showing the conspiracy (it must be if they are lying to this degree). It must be almost over if they are willing to propose such blatant garbage.
Why do you need someone else to think for you?
Steve,
another devastating comeback.
I just follow your logic to the obvious conclusion. Why shouldn’t I believe you?
Follow it to it’s ultimate conclusion Tony—why believe yourself?
;0)
Just keep babbling Tony. You must like wasting time.
This is a regurgitation of the POS thingy from Romm. It was garbage then and it is still garbage.
Long term regional weather patterns that are still being studied to determine extent have been cycling warm and cold for millions of years. Some claim this condition has exsted since Antarctic continent floated over the south pole and the straight between it and South America opened up. hen to exaggerate effect Isthmus of Panama closed and forced more water through that region. As the currents are normally towards the Peninsula and strengthen and weaken based on the state of the ocean atmosphere weather pattern there will be warming and reduction of warming.
The other issue is the known existence of volcano activity in that same area.
I know Steven, It is Basic Physics: In the north heat rises and in the south heat sinks it is a magnetic thingy. The South Pole being the Negative pole it sucks all the warmth in and pushes it up at Greenland or where ever the magnetic North Pole is currently. That is why there is so much heat near Greenland! -40!!!!
Mike ,
aside from the last paragraph, that was quite interesting
Weatherdim’s data only goes to 2003 and does not include ARGO data. There is a discrepancy between fOHC and fTOA and Josh Willis has already stated in an email exchange with Trenberth and Pielke Sr. that he does not think heat went hiding into the deep oceans and he gave clear reasons why not.
I wonder who the weatherdim self proclaimed activist scientist is and why won’t use his name?
An interesting study whose conspicuous lack of context.raises a few questions.
First, the ocean heat anomaly is given as 10 to the 23rd joules, a chunky number.
The question is, anomaly against what?
How is the baseline set, what is the total ocean heat content and how is the anomaly determined? That information is essential to putting the anomaly into context.
Second, it is clear from the helpful charts that the oceans act as a heat engine, gaining heat at the equator and dissipating it near the poles. Presumably this process can speed up or slow down over time, a process illustrated by the PDO, the ENSO and similar oscillations.
There is no indication of the scale of this activity, which may reduce the anomaly indicated to a wiggle on a wave, or whether the measured change is possibly related to one of these swings.
It would require hundreds of years of fairly accurate data to Prove but there has been research that points to the cyclic nature of long term regional weather patterns. and trying to equate what is happening around the West Antarctic peninsula to global climate is like looking at a person’s glove size to determine how tall they are.
Tony Duncan says:
January 5, 2011 at 2:55 am
so those studies and graphs are obvious fraud again. The water is colder now than in the past, Ice is increasing in Antarctica not melting, so it should be pretty easy to get a paper published showing the conspiracy
#1 – What makes you think they are frauds?
#2 – Have you heard of O’Donnell, Et. al. 2010? if so, why do you think it is “pretty Easy”?
Phil,
If what I wrote are facts, they are so obviously contrary to the published reports of increasing ocean temp, I don’t see how any reviewer, NOT part of a conspiracy could refuse to allow publication of the truth.
yes I am aware of O’Donnel.
Knowing O’Donnell, et.al. 2010, you still maintain that:
should be pretty easy to get a paper published
That seems to be a contradiction.
TonyD:
I am certain you would be aware of O’Donnell:
http://www.people.com/people/rosie_odonnell
Notice the ocean heat chart stops in 2003….hmmm…..
You would not want evidence of cooling to interfere with a good fairy tale, Would you?
I think this increase Atlantic ocean upwelling with heat is significant. Since the electric universe seems more plausible than not, Sol and Earth are in quantum communication if the missing neutrino mass is correct. Heat means latency means disorder? Thinking wildly here so the heat is a sign of the 2nd law down at the Earth’s core?
The only Hollywood end of world movie not yet made is when the oceans overturn. I think there are several websites discussing this but like Velikovsky, the initial push remains unknown. If you accept that the scientists Velikovsky quoted in his book were correct in their findings, then there were significant catastrophic events within our human timeline. Yet, we prefer to regulate these to insignificant in the main.
I prefer to believe that not only did they occur, but other events within human history occurred and were filed away as ‘too bad to remember.’ If a Birkeland current of signifact voltage struck the ocean, what would be the result? In the lab, if you pass a current through a solution, it precipitates out. So, wouldn’t the oceans do the same?