It is OK for Dyson to fix incorrect thinking in other fields, but he better keep his hands off my religion!
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Lots of emotion from Brower, but he doesn’t seem to have paid any attention to what Dyson actually said. From Wikipedia…
‘Dyson agrees that anthropogenic global warming exists, and has written that “one of the main causes of warming is the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere resulting from our burning of fossil fuels such as oil and coal and natural gas.” However, he has argued that existing simulation models of climate fail to account for some important factors, and hence the results will contain too much error to reliably predict future trends.’
Hardly controversial stuff.
Dozens of university, government and NGO studies are based on specific details of climate model output. They don’t care that the results are meaningless. They report them as gospel.
Funny that the guy doesn’t see his disconnect. He assumes he’s right and Dyson is wrong. Maybe religion allows you to be lazy.
AAM:
No doubt about that!
Except that Dyson admits that he doesn’t know anything about climate science in the last 30 years and he has not interests in finding out. He ascribes beliefs to climate scientists that are laughingly wrong and it doesn’t occur to him that he could actually talk to some or read the literature and see if his characterizations have any basis in reality
I imagine he approached physics with a slightly more scientific attitude.
You are sounding desperate
I guess that puts him on par with Jones, Mann and Hansen.
Tony Duncan says:
November 15, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Except that Dyson admits that he doesn’t know anything about climate science in the last 30 years and he has not interests in finding out.
You are sorely wrong about that!! NO WHERE does Freeman Dyson say that.
Please tell me where you got that, which is either a misquotation, or a straight up fabrication, from.
Same place Mann, Hansen, Jones et. al. got their data proving global warming (that keeps changing – I will just keep with the old term).
It was in an interview. I listened to it. I heard him say it, in his very unique and quite pleasant voice. I think it was on a podcast with Yale forestry or something
I am paraphrasing, but he said he doesn’t have any interest in the details of climate science. He has a breadth of judgement that these young whipersnappers don’t have, so he can understand what they are doing without really getting his feet too wet. He also said that there clearly is warming, but he doesn’t think that will cause any real problems.
Maybe I imagined listening to a podcast, but I am out of the mescaline that ACC believers are given, so I don’t think so.
I don’t believe that’s what he said.
Saying you heard it on a podcast isn’t enough. I want reference.
You are going to have to find the interview and let me hear it for myself. I am telling you I have heard talk about the science of global warming and he knows more than 99% of scientists about it. What you claim about him is inconsistent with what I have heard from him.
Amino,
Did you get my post about Dyson?
I do believe his ideas are valuable, especially on interesting ways to combat CO2 increases. But he does always think big!