Only 52% of American Meteorological Society members believe that global warming is primarily Mann-made, and only 78% of their members who get paid to produce global warming propaganda do.
According to Kook and Nutter, this is a 97% consensus.
http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/BAMS-D-13-00091.1
Earth’s energy balance is driven by the Sun. The amount of heat leaving the planet, has to average out to be equal to the amount of energy incoming.
Solar energy reaches the ground and warms it. This heat in turn warms the atmosphere via conduction and absorption by greenhouse gases. All of that heat has to return to space, via radiation, convection, evaporation in the lower troposphere, condensation in the upper troposphere, etc. Essentially all of the heat is dissipated into space by greenhouse gases in the upper atmosphere.
Without greenhouse gases, atmospheric physics doesn’t work at all. That is why people who don’t accept greenhouse gas theory can not participate in the discussion. It is like trying to design a building without accepting the existence of gravity.
Typical conversation with a climate expert
It may be cold in the eastern US, but the rest of the world is hot
Satellites show no global warming for 18 years
Heat is accumulating in the oceans
Climate models predicted atmospheric warming
Models keep improving. Why do you hate the planet?
I turned on the heat in the apartment tonight.
Not because I was particularly cold, but because I realized that I didn’t feel at home. A warm home is much more enjoyable, and makes you feel freer.
Thank you Baltimore Gas and Electric, for delivering a reliable supply of fossil fuel powered energy.
Mark Boslough says he is speaking about climate at AGU. He also says he doesn’t know much about climate.
AGU is the same organization which had confessed fraudster and thief Peter Gleick as their ethics officer.
At this point, anyone who attempts to claim that the greenhouse effect doesn’t exist, is assumed to be an alarmist plant trying to make skeptics look bad. You will be banned immediately.
I’ve put up with this crap for months, and my patience is gone.
Last year I did a post on several hundred thousand AK-47 mags which the US Army purchased. This seemed odd, because the US Army doesn’t use Russian rifles.
Today there was a news story that ISIS is well stocked for the next two years with US purchased armaments “stolen” from the Iraqi army.
If you put on a heavy coat, and go out for a run, the coat makes you warm faster.
If you come back from the run, and do not remove your coat, the coat makes you cool slower. The distinction between warming and cooling is meaningless with respect to the insulating properties of the coat. The coat makes you warmer than you would be without the coat. The direction of warming or cooling is controlled by the heat source, not by the fixed insulator.
The ugly anti-greenhouse gas argument which keeps popping its head up here is so stupid, it had to have been a plant from alarmists designed to make skeptics look stupid.
Anyone who attempts to bring that argument up again after this thread, will be spammed. It is making it impossible to have any serious scientific discussion.
Holdren has released a Climate Explorer tool, saying that sea level will rise one foot in the San Francisco Bay
The stable tide gauge in the San Francisco Bay shows that sea level is lower now than it was 70 years ago.
As always, the White House is trying to Gruber America with their endless stream of lies.
My position is to defend science, and defend quality of life – i.e. the environment, the political environment and the economic environment.
Most of the nonsense is on the alarmist side of the debate, but there is plenty on the skeptic side too.
The greenhouse effect is basic, fundamental science – like gravity.
The sun strikes the Earth’s surface, and warms it. This causes the Earth to radiate longwave radiation up through the atmosphere. Some of this radiation is captured by molecules of greenhouse gas, which causes the air to warm. Warm greenhouse gases in turn radiate more longwave radiation, half of which radiates downwards towards Earth and warms the Earth’s surface further.
This does not change the energy flux in the atmosphere. The energy flux moving upwards (via reflection, radiation, convection, evaporation, condensation, etc.) is always going to average out to be equal to the amount of incoming solar radiation. The greenhouse effect simply elevates temperatures above what they would be without greenhouse gases. It behaves like an insulator. It is not a heat source and does not violate the laws of thermodynamics. People who make that argument are completely clueless.
The vast majority of this warming is near the Earth’s surface, and is due to H2O molecules, rather than CO2. Forecasts of large amounts of CO2 warming, are not based on any legitimate science.
