Real Climate Science

The latest excuse, explaining why glaciers are expanding

Oct 14, 2014

Even as the climate continues to grow warmer and melt glaciers around the world, the stable glaciers of the Himalaya’s Karakoram region, a picturesque chain of snowy peaks spanning the borders between Pakistan, India and China, has long been a mystery. Not any longer though.

These glaciers have exhibited mass stability or even expansion in the Karakoram region contrasting with the glacial mass loss across the nearby Himalayas and Tibetan Plateau, a pattern that has been termed the Karakoram anomaly. For the study, the researchers collected data on recent precipitation and temperatures from the Pakistan Meteorological Department and other sources, including satellite data.

New study show why Karakoram glaciers aren’t melting despite global warming – Firstpost

The IPCC (based on top science from Prince Philip) says that Himalayan glaciers will be gone in 21 years

Glaciers in the Himalaya are receding faster than in any other part of the world (see Table 10.9) and, if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate. Its total area will likely shrink from the present 500,000 to 100,000 km2 by the year 2035 (WWF, 2005).

AR4 WGII Chapter 10: Asia – 10.6.2 The Himalayan glaciers

Contrary to all the BS being spewed by top climate scientists, their own models shows that CO2 has almost no impact on climate. The graph below shows the greenhouse effect during mid-latitude summer for three scenarios, calculated using RRTM – the model used by NCAR in their climate and weather models

1. Current atmosphere
2. No CO2
3. Double CO2

(Note the mid-troposphere hot spot)

At the surface during mid-latitude summers, the amount of downwelling longwave radiation due to CO2 is less than 3%. Doubling CO2 would only increase the greenhouse effect by one third of one percent. Yet climate scientists blame mid-latitude summer heatwaves on this.

We constantly hear BS from people like Gavin claiming  that the CO2 contributes 20-30% to the greenhouse effect, but their own models show this is complete nonsense.

Call this scam off – there is no science behind it.

The effect is higher during high latitude winters, where there is very little water vapor.

[UPDATED] I added high latitude winters at Tallbloke’s request. The proportional effect is larger there, because of a shortage of water vapor.

In the tropics, the CO2 proportion of the greenhouse effect is less than 1.5% – and  a doubling of CO2 has almost no effect.

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This is what the IPCC meant by ice-free Himalayas in 2035

Cold is the new hot

Obama doesn’t care what other countries do about CO2, but it provides him an excuse to punish Americans.

Likewise, he won’t place any restrictions on travellers from Ebola ravaged countries, but will place them on Americans.

CDC considers adding names of health workers monitored for Ebola to no-fly list

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/16/cdc-considers-adding-names-people-monitored-for-ebola-to-no-fly-list/

It is never about actual problem solving, and always about getting even with the evil American people.

Some nights are humid and warm. Other nights are dry and cold. Deserts can vary 60 degrees from day to night, when the humidity is very low.

People who don’t believe in the greenhouse effect, aren’t thinking clearly.

The US Drought Monitor (generated in Washington DC) shows areas which are wetter than normal as being in extreme drought. Look at Tucson, Az, and compare with the PMDI map at bottom.

It has been three years since Joe Romm announced the beginning of the permanent drought in Phoenix, which is now wetter than normal.

The US is now near historically low levels of drought, thanks to your SUV. California is being rewarded for their carbon tax.