According to the FBI, there were 1.2 million violent crimes committed in the US during 2011.
According to the UK government, there were 1.94 million violent crimes in the UK during 2011.
www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171778_296191.pdf
There are almost exactly five times as many people in the US as in the UK – 314 million vs. 63 million.
The violent crime rate in the UK is 3,100 per 100,000, and in the US it is 380 per 100,000 population.
For some reason, Piers Morgan doesn’t talk about this.
Need to check Morgan’s lineage. 10 to 1 he’s a direct descendant of King George III.
That inbreeding would explain alot.
You I love about the laws in the great USA you have the right to shout any one who breaks into your home here UK if you break into someones home a slap on the wrist it stinks here even for murder if take a life here its 25 years were in the US its over a 100 years the right idea or the death penalty the UK should adopt some of your laws people feel safer everyone should be allowed a gun to defend there homes and from muggers plus rapists keep up the good work Steven
If you don’t live here, we need you here.
I’d SHOOT anyone that breaks into my house, I wouldn’t shout at them.
I’d probably shout at them too.
Gotta wonder why Piers came here??
He’s Irish. Trying to escape the potato famine or a few legal challenges.
“A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.
A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:
• 34% had been “scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim”
• 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they “knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun”
• 69% personally knew other criminals who had been “scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim”
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#crime
I have seen Morgan on video clips (I do not watch the show). Given his demeanor, I would say he is part of the problem in the UK. He has demonstrated he is incapable of calmly and rationally discussing any subject, instead working himself into an emotional rage that is only constrained by the lack of victims in the near vicinity.
It should be remembered that the UK probably defines violent crime differently to the US. We’re such delicate souls here that if someone raises their voice to us or, heaven forbid, uses a rude word, that would be logged as violence against the person.
“Includes all violence against the person, sexual offences, and robbery as violent crime.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_crime#United_Kingdom
Sounds violent enough to me.
No wonder you do not want Piers Morgan back!
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Posted a link to this on Huffpo and added a comment. This is what I said:
This link says everything about gun control:
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/uk-violent-crime-rate-eight-times-higher-than-in-the-us/
Links are provided in the post.
In 2011 out of all murders by guns only a little over 300 were by rifles, of those only 35 were by “assault weapons”. The difference between semi-auto hunting rifles and “assault weapons” is the furniture. This furniture does nothing to make the weapon more deadly.
The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expect different results. We have had a ban on “assault weapons” and standard capacity magazines that ran for 10 years. The DOJ under Obama did a study on that ban and found it had no effect on crime other than possibly making crime worse. We need to stop making our schools into killing zones by ending the gun free zones and arming staff and/or teachers who are willing to carry and take the training needed to effectively use those weapons to protect our children.
It has been shown time after time that where weapons laws have been relaxed crime goes down and where the laws are strict crime goes up. Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Florida and several other States are examples of the former while Chicago, New York and DC are examples of the latter.
We need to work on a better mental health screening system in general and mandate that all States must enter any adjudication of mental instability into the NICS system as currently there are many States that do not do this.
In Britain were gun are controlled “…the end of June 2012 there were 19,382 disposals given for possession of a knife or offensive weapon. • Juveniles (aged 10-17) were the offenders in 17% of cases. The custody rate was 10% for juveniles and 28% for adults.”
The British National Health Service “… data suggests there were 4,490 people admitted to English hospitals in 2011/12 due to assault by a sharp object. The lowest level since 2002/03.” So they must be happy at only 4,490 knife incidence. Official figures only…
http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/Sn04304
A little more real is –
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/datablog/2012/apr/12/london-knife-crime
Oops –
It’s In Britain where gun are controlled “…
not
In Britain were gun are controlled “…
Violet gang are trying to rule London, the police fight back.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098265/Gang-Britain-Police-chief-doubles-officers-tackling-problem-4-000-soljas.html
Darn I need to be re-caffeinated
No they’re not violet but VIOLENT
The media they’ve followed for years, certainly isn’t helping…
Agreed.
They would be easier to see if they were violet, but they’d be nearly invisible if they became ultra-violet.
Maybe the reason Piers Morgan doesn’t quote those figures, is because they’re complete rubbish.
Violent crime means something completely different in the 2 countries. In America it’s a list of 7 super serious crimes that are reported to the fbi, including rape and murder.
In British stats it means everything that isn’t a property crime, from low level muggings and bar fights to bosses touching a girls butt against her will. So the British stat is massively bigger, as you would expect. That doesn’t mean Britain is 4 times more violent. it just means that you can’t read stats properly. The only directly comparable numbers are the homicide rates. Which for the record are 4 times higher in the us than in Britain.
I’ve lived in both places, and most places in the US are much safer than the UK. But thanks for the almost pointless comment.
His comment was anything but pointless. It’s true that violent crime is defined deifferently in the UK than the US and encompasses many more lesser crimes which has likely skewed the figures pointing out the gaping hole in your argument. Whereas you reply with a partial view based on your own experience with no supporting evidence. Well done.
800% Homer
The only directly comparable numbers are the homicide rates.
Nope Matt, not at all…..totally different way of accounting and not accounting