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The alarmists will come up with some cock and bull story about how much of the ice is “thin.” They will never admit their predictions of an ice-free arctic are wrong. And they will go to their graves believing that rising CO2 levels are destroying the planet. They cannot be reasoned with.
Exactly, they seem unable to distinguish reality from imagination.
In general, Kirk, I agree. But there have been some remarkable admissions from the climate kooks of late. They’re all atwitter about the arctic because they have nothing else now. Once the arctic oscillates back to the conditions of the late 70s, there will be no place to hide. I just hope, after they ultimately run out of room to “adjust” data to the narrative, that they finally come clean. But I suspect instead, they’ll slink away into the shadows, hoping no one remembers them. Some will find new fantasies to squeal about.
the heat is there…it’s just hiding somewhere
natural variability…..but without global warming…it would have gotten colder
when it’s over….temps will rise again
Any day now! Big All says so! For every dollar you send he will delay it half a millisecond.
For me an Arctic recovery would be end game. It would throw their Arctic amplification into the dustbin and remove their last hand (assuming mean temps continue stalling / diverging).
Do you really know what you’re talking about? Have you ever heard about Rossby waves, AMO flipping, solar forcing on O^3, jet stream, etc.?
All these factors are telling now that the N. Pole is entering a cooling phase.
No hidden heat there.
The recent oscillations of the Arctic ice shall end soon when the strong storms end.
Latitude is being sarcastic.
The latest alarmist talking points:
Warming may have slowed for the moment, but all that heat is lurking somewhere (maybe in the bottom of the ocean) and by 2030 or 2040, super duper exponential heating will set in and we are all going to fry!
Our super duper computers which do trillions of calculations per second, say it is so and thus it is going to be so. Also, 13,872 peer reviewed papers by the world’s greatest alarmist climate scientists also say it is so and thus it is going to be so.
Comparing temperature records from 1936 to those of today does not cut it and is so primative. You need to examine each and every one of the 13,872 peer reviewed papers to see that the 99.9% warm biased adjustments are all based on settled science.
It’s disgusting, isn’t it?
Siberian summer snow shocker. :O
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/22920995
http://news.sky.com/story/1103914/siberia-scorching-sun-to-snow-storm-in-a-day
I think that alarmists are optimists and in the next days the ice will vanish to make true the catastrophic predictions. But when I see cold water in the mediterranean I feel really scared. http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sfc_daily.php?plot=ssa&inv=0&t=cur
Oh yes. someone knows how to spell “La Nina” in african ? we can need.
The oceans are colder this year than in 2012, although the PDO slightly less negative.
No “canary” here.
… What’s going on here? Arctic ice highest in a decade and and arctic temperatures are still well below “normal.” (http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php ) From the shape of the curve, they might even be interpreted as possibly leveling off – maybe they won’t even reach 0°C? Should be interesting!
Good point, last year the temps reached a plateau around this time (~June) and remained pretty much constant for nearly 3 months. If the same happens now, we could have a really interesting result for the Arctic ice this summer.
These Cleptocratic Climate Clownshoes won’t give up their Golden Glow Bull Worming Goose, even when the poley bears start roaming the streets of Dearbornistan and devouring the Pieceful Religionists in their mosques. They’ll blame the frigid ice sheet moving south on CO2-induced long-wave radiative forcing speeding up and changing the polarity of the ionospheric transference process.
I believe this is the time to say ‘Of course, it’s all rotten ice.’
Problem is, this can and will be explained by Team AGW as follows:
1. Slowdown of MOC because of thermohaline gradient
2. Reduced warmer water to Arctic from Gulf Steam and North Atlantic Current
3. Catastrophe anyway.
Countdown 1 week for this “explanation” from the likes of Bill Nye, the Hair Dye Guy
On the other hand, it’s right at two sigma below the 1979-2000 average. Assuming a normal distribution of “other” causes of Arctic sea ice extent, that would mean that there’s about a 2.2% probability that this occurred due to “random” factors. What do you suppose could have caused it?
See: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
1. It isn’t clear to me that “sea ice extent” has the same baseline now that it was given 1979-2000.
2. It seems to be about as periodic as the AO shift. Any “non-periodic” variation would interrupt that.
“1979-2000 average”
Ahhhh, the meaningless mean. Cherries anyone? 😆
Interesting that the Arctic Regional Ocean Observing System (Arctic ROOS) says that the ice area of 2013 is already below 2009,
http://arctic-roos.org/observations/satellite-data/sea-ice/observation_images/ssmi1_ice_area.png
The good news is we’re having an important recovery this year, so far.
The good news is we’re having an important recovery this year, so far.
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It is good news from a political standpoint. It means nothing from a practical or a disaster averted standpoint.
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moreless snow ice is completely consistent, and exactly what we expect as the Earth warms