Two years ago, the US was huge.
2012 Was The Hottest Year on Record (NOAA) – Greg Laden’s Blog
But now he says the US is tiny.
Weather Whiplash, and What Does (The) Fox Say? – Greg Laden’s Blog
The cold air must have made the US shrink this year.
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“..most of the globe did not..” have heatwaves whenever you report those too, Greg. Good thing you reassured us that localized conditions aren’t proof (or disproof) of anything at all.
From this photo Laden looks like a global warming Nazi. 😉
http://10000birds.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Laden_Augrabies_Falls.jpg
That link is broken. It says access is forbidden.
Is this the same picture?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52091404@N05/7627472058/
This one seems more appropriate for Laden:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52091404@N05/8186051207/in/photostream/
Laden, Schmitt, Ehrlich, Mann, Schneider, …
Both links work identically, for me.
Dorothy: The surface area of the Earth is 197 million square miles.
The surface area of the lower 48 is just over 3 million square miles, of which less than 3 million miles is land.
So the number, supplied not by me but by Media Matters (that thing you see there is a block quote) is correct.
Generally, over that period of winter the Northern Hemisphere was exceptionally warm.
Sundance, that is me pointing out some geology to my daughter. Thank you for Godwining our vacation.
If you knew that, why did you headline “2012 was the hottest year on record” if that number only represented 1.5% of the Earth?
BTW – 2012 wasn’t a “hot” year in the US – it had very mild spring temperatures which brought the annual average up. Do you think of 60 degrees as being “hot?”
As far as your vacation goes, perhaps you should have thought about that before you decided to start trashing me on twitter today.
When you start using NOAA as a source around here, don’t expect respect. It tells us you are either a fool or a liar.
“Generally, over that period of winter the Northern Hemisphere was exceptionally warm. ”
I take it that you have placed temperature monitoring stations all over the oceans in all of the Northern Hemisphere so that you can make such statements. After all, the areas that are really measured on land is but a tiny portion of the whole of the hemisphere and there is a lot of ocean out there.
By the way, when do you predict that the Holocene will end? I hope it is after I am gone as glaciers all over the northern U.S. will play havoc with the NFL season. I also notice that just within the Holocene itself there were much warmer times than present. Did early mankind have wood fired SUVs that we have not been told about? (a stone age industrial revolution perhaps?)
Oh, another question: why does the government agencies have to “adjust” the present temperatures upwards and the past temps downwards if CO2 is burning us all to death? Seems to me like the raw data should support your hypothesis. (sorry, your religion)
You are very confused, Steven.
You are happy to hype warm US temperatures, but you downplay cold US temperatures. Very dishonest.
Oh Oh, the problem with hype is it doesn’t go away when you need it to.
The planet as a whole has dropped in temperature over the past 39 months.
Our esteemed political scientists haven’t been able to use the tools at their disposal here in the 21st century and that is a shame.
We do know without a shadow of a doubt how planetary conditions move from glacial states to inter-glacial states and visa versa, but apparently you haven’t been keeping up with the science.
Look a bit further at the most recent research, and you’ll understand why the eminent among us can never apologize for their slightly neurotic behavior and predictions.
Working Hypothesis are A-okay if your actually working within the bounds of scientific theory!
“Dishonest”? You’re in a charitable mood today.
I have a whole list of more colorful, but equally accurate adjectives in mind. However, perhaps the ultimate would be to describe him as very “Mannian”.
“You are very confused, Steven.”
Goddard continues to publish articles and data found in newspapers, official web sites, and other sources from the past that make a positive mockery of your side’s lies and half-truths. You might accuse him of heresy for not worshiping your magic molecule CO2 (only the anthropogenic kind of course) but “very confused” is not the phrase you were grasping for.
You seem very confused. AGW is about politics not science!
whimper, whimper.
You make Doctor Smith look like a champion.
Confusion would be a Great Leap Forward for you Greg, at least three steps up the brain ladder from ignorant, propagandizing, Greenie Kool Aide chugging Warmonger.
Alarmists never include the word “hottest” with the term “1.5%” in the same paragraph. It’s against their religion.
Michael Mann’s pocket is about to shrink some more too: http://pindanpost.com/2014/02/25/you-are-a-liar-michael-mann/
The U.S. is suffering from significant shrinkage this year.
Most of the surface of the Earth is water and there are two main measurements to look at: the Argo data shows such a tiny warning trend in the ocean surface, it is barely measurable. The other thing to check is the sea ice area, which seems to be up this year.
Those readings don’t need to adjust for time if observation, nor urban heat, nor site instrumentation changes, or any of that other stuff.
“the Argo data shows such a tiny warning trend in the ocean surface, it is barely measurable.”
And even that might be a very optimistic judgement of the data. I have yet to see any realistic margin of error for the Argo data. The claim that the oceans are warming is based on a supposed measurement that is less than a tenth of a degree over decades.
Isn’t it amazing… we can measure the global ocean over a half century with readings of hundredths of degrees, but the land measurements are so bad that we have to “adjust” them by whole degrees over the same period.
I posted one of your links on tampering at the Daily Caller and some person named “icarus62” begin trashing you as a lying scumbag. Dont suppose he is a friend.
icky is a famous loon. Idiot invective is all you’ll get from him.
Laden has made a career of saying stupid things, and then accusing others of being “confused”.
“.@LesJohnsonHrvat @SteveSGoddard @PeterGleick AGW Models do NOT predict southern SEA ICE reduction. You are simply wrong. And confused.”
But I hear there is good money in it! 😉
Look at the masthead: “Culture as science. Science as culture.” That is the working definition of “post-normal science”–“consensus” is another–which is to say, it is not objective (“culture” being a subjective judgment, in the eyes of the beholder) and thus not science at all. That masthead might as well read, “Culture as truth. Truth as culture.”, because that is what it means, what he believes (or what he wants people to believe). As a scientist, you can’t expect to communicate with him–he is a mewling child, afraid to face reality, and determined not to (as his “you are very confused” telegraphs, if it weren’t already clear from his refusal to see your point and accept it).
Science, IMO, is the attempt to remove cultural preconceptions from analysis and descriptions of reality, to the extent possible, by careful reference to observation and measurement. Progressives, post-modernists, and warmists simply declare that they are above all that and hence are free to impose their own group’s assumptions. The results of such assumption of absolute power are as predicted: absolute corruption.
@ Greg……….
I doubt very much that Steven is confused, but I am.
I went to your site, and it looks as if you are the expert on everything.
Forget the Higgs boson, apparently Greg is the “God Person”
I guess that he is never wrong about anything.
He must have got 100% on every test he ever wrote.
Are the expert an everything?
Greg- correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the data of the kind to be able to say “hottest, or coldest on record” only 135 years old or so-when we started to record actual temperatures? If so, a few warm years out of 135 when comparable data for the other 4 billion is missing wouldn’t mean much, would it?
Greg Laden doesn’t know we’ve been in an ICE AGE for several million years.
Greg Laden is hoping there are some among us who are not awake and he can therefore use his propaganda against us.
Sorry Greg,
When I have 6 inches of snow on the ground and the “offical’ records show the temperature above freezing and that snow as RAIN the creditability of NAAO just went to ZERO!
This was not just for one day but for THREE day.BTW
Also the temperatures this summer for my location were adjusted UP AGAIN six months after they had been adjusted up by 2-3°F the next day.
If there was some way of putting you and your buddies in jail for fraud/ and or treason I would certainly try.