Barack Obama is keeping us safe – by protecting America from climate change induced terrorism.
He believes that the way to fight terrorism is by getting approval from the EU before we eat or adjust out thermostat.
“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said.
“That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen,” he added.
Climate change must have been a big problem in 1862, when 22,000 men fell in one day at Antietam.
Tens of millions fell from 1914-1918. Climate change must have been awful.
This is what he is up against in the battle against CO2 warming. Darlington, WI had more 100 degrees days in 1936, than it has in all of the years since combined.
During July, 1936 – Darlington had 13 consecutive days over 100 degrees.
He also believes that the way to stop terrorism is to “make electricity prices skyrocket.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4
The spread of radical Islam, Obama said, is “a real problem that Muslims most confront without excuse.” And he said that Muslims in America must not be treated differently.
“If we do that we lose,” Obama said.
Who is “we”?
Radical Islam is not the problem, fundamental Islam is.
I must admit that I have more than several Muslim friend, mainly from Iran, and they are among the nicest people I know.. Kind, gentle, and they hate what the radicals do to their religion.
Use to room with one of them on conferences.. gave him his space that prayer time.
A good and dear friend.
Radical, fundamental Islam is very different from being Muslim.
Trouble is, that like any political or religious ideal….
…… the scum always seems to float to the top.
ps.. the female Muslims I know personally, do not wear hijabs.. they dress like demure, modest Aussies.
Most Germans didn’t throw people in gas chambers
I do take your point, SG.
Its the fundeMENTALists and others that are the big problem..
and there seems to be one heck of a lot of them.
And something needs to be done about them..
They need to change the very basics of their religion, like Christianity and most other religions have, to one of tolerance, acceptance of difference, and living together in peace.
If that means removing sections of the Koran… or at least reinterpreting them for modern society…. then the Muslims, and especially their religious leaders, have to find the will and the guts to do so.
Andy, your friends would be radical Muslims, the Koran teaches hatred and intolerance toward non-Muslims. The 911 hijackers and the San Bernardino couple were adhering to the literal text of the Koran, just as Evangelicals adhere to the literal text of the Bible, making them all fundamentalists. Muslims who condemn attacks on non-Muslims are the radicals, in their religion.
Thanks for sharing deep theological insights.
You must be talking about passages from their scriptures such as this:
“They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of XXX, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.”
Any religion that is based on such a scripture must be fought tooth and nail, rooted out of our country, and exposed for the murderous cult it is, right?
Careful.
Kent, I am always very careful. Which religions teaches their adherents to murder? Did you forget about the 10 commandments? Hmmm?
Gator,
Cognitive dissonance is a scary thing:
The full text of the quote above is below.
It is from the Christian BIBLE–the Judaic Torah–calling upon all good Jews [and Christians] to slaughter those who do not believe in the Jewish God.
“They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)”
Scriptural interpretation is an extremely complicated undertaking. ALL scriptures can be contradictory, bombastic, threatening, unclear and confusing. Someone who follows the Christian Bible, to the letter, would, most likely, be known as a radical.
Individuals interpret scriptures differently–see Calvin, Luther, the Popes, Baptists, Christian Scientists, and many, many more–sometimes resulting in bloody wars–in all religions.
Careful.
The Old Testament Law is not in force today (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23–25; Ephesians 2:15).
How many Christians and Jews are killing their petulant children? Hmmm?
https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/10/04/muslim-honor-killings-statistics/
The Old Testament is not in force today?
Have you mentioned that to our Jewish brethren?
They might be a little confused by your theological pronouncements, just as Muslims would be.
The Old Testament is the Jewish Torah–their scripture–the word of God.
The Old Testament is included in the Bible in Christian churches.
It’s part of Christianity and Judaism. It’s in the Bible.
Slaughter those who entice you to join other religions? Check.
“If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)”
Foundation?
Radical?
Is it possible that the vast majority of Muslims regard their scriptures much the same that you regard Christian scriptures?
“How many Christians and Jews are killing their petulant children? Hmmm?”
Just because you are not aware of the rest of the world, and the actions done by Christians, does not make it go away.
Educate yourself.
Christians regularly (now and throughout history) slaughter unbelievers, witches, adulterers, homosexuals, and many others–just as the Bible commands:
” Christian militias in the Central African Republic…kidnapped people they accused of witchcraft, tied them to stakes and then burnt them alive, the report disclosed.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/centralafricanrepublic/12018588/Christian-militias-in-Central-African-Republic-burnt-witches-at-stake-says-UN-report.html
“Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)”
Kent, it is very simple. “Christians” that murder are not following the teachings of Christ. Muslims that murder are following the teachings of Mohammad.
Sorry you don’t understand this.
You are practicing theology without a license! Waving your hands and saying black is white does not make it so. You are telling an entire religion that they do not understand their own scripture, and that those who are living peacefully are mis-practicing their religion–that they are “radical” because they don’t follow the Islamic extremists. Your pronouncements seem to be based on a skimming of their scriptures for passages that seem to support violence.
Yet, at the same time, you wave your hands and say that Old Testament passages that support violence are not applicable to Christians.
Christians, for centuries, and still today, regularly justify slaughter of non-believers with the Bible.
The Old Testament specifically calls for slaughter of unbelievers, apostates, and many, many other enemies.
It’s in the BIBLE! What don’t you understand about that? The Bible that is read by Christians.
Or are only followers of the Old Testament blood-thirsty war-mongers, as commanded by God?
But, wait, there is a large number of Christians who do not follow the Gator Theology of rejection of the Old Testament. They subscribe to the Old Testament as the word of God:
“For Christians who interpret the bible in a literal fashion, Israel has a crucial role to play in bringing on the Second Coming of Christ.
“The First Christian Zionist Congress met in 1985. One resolution at that Congress called for all Jews living outside Israel to move to Israel.
“The Christians also urged Israel to annex that portion of occupied Palestine called the West Bank, with its near one million Palestinian inhabitants. An Israeli Jew, seated in the audience, rose to suggest that perhaps the language might be modified. He pointed out that an Israeli poll showed that one-third of the Israelis would be willing to trade territory seized in 1967 for peace with the Palestinians.
“We don’t care what the Israelis vote!” declared van der Hoeven [spokesman for the International Christian Embassy]. We care what God says! And God gave that land to the Jews!” After his impassioned outburst, the Christians by a nearly unanimous show of hands passed the resolution. (Grace Halsell, Prophecy and Politics, p.133)
“Christian Zionism in the United States has taken on messianic overtones. A recent survey reported in Beliefnet found:
” .. over one-third of those Americans who support Israel report that they do so because they believe the Bible teaches that the Jews must possess their own country in the Holy Land before Jesus can return.”
http://theocracywatch.org/christian_zionism.htm
LOL! Talk about hand waving!
Kent, it is very simple. “Christians” that murder are not following the teachings of Christ. Muslims that murder are following the teachings of Mohammad.
Sorry you don’t understand this.
kentclizbe-
You’re ignoring reality. Gator is talking about today. The current time frame. Jews live in peace with Christians. Christians live in peace with Buddhists. Buddhists live in peace with Hindus. Hindus live in peace with Jews. Muslims are at war with Christians, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists. You can choose to believe that the problem is caused by a dozen religions who all currently live in relative peace, or you can choose to believe the problem is with a single religion that’s currently fighting everyone. Occam’s Razor favors the former.
Frankly, I’m closer to Andy’s position than Gator’s. I think the united States has inspired much of the current round of Islamic militancy, and I’m in favor of pulling out of the middle east completely. But you’ll notice that we’ve played the same games with pretty much every country in the world, and it’s ONLY the Muslim countries that respond by blowing themselves up in public. There’s no denying that Mohammed was a conqueror, and Christ was not. Yes, several figures from the Old Testament were also conquerors. But Gator’s not a Jew. He’s already expressed his belief that New Testament Law supersedes Old Testament Law. He can’t be expected to argue in defense of a people who’s beliefs he doesn’t accept. If you want someone to defend the Torah, find a Jew. Gator can only argue for what he believes. You’ll note that not a single Christian is calling for non-Christians to either convert or die. The same can be said for Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Shinto, Wiccans, atheists, animists, etc. While by no means a majority position, there is a strong voice in Islam for the elimination of all non-believers.
The bottom line is, would you rather live as a Muslim in America, or as a Christian in Saudi Arabia?
Ted,
You’re on track.
I’m arguing with Gator’s irrational arm-chair theology. He alludes to scriptural exegis of Islamic theology to declare that murder is fundamental to Islam.
At the same time, he waves his hands and dismisses much worse scriptural calls to murder, genocide, and overall brutality in the Old Testament of Judaism and Christianity, pretending that those actions are NOT fundamental to those two religions.
Islam, just as Christianity, conquered unbelievers–see Columbus’s mission and actions, the Crusades, colonization of Africa, Asia, South America, North America. All done in the name of Christianity. Islam is not unique in these types of actions, especially in comparison to Christianity.
As for today, see the links to Christian genocide and slaughter above. Current Islamist extremist terrorism pales in comparsion to the Christian genocides in the last 50 years.
The genocide in Rwanda is the most massive slaughter in the last 50 years. It was committed by Christian sects, fully supported, aide, and abetted by Christian clergy. If you don’t know about it, that doesn’t make it go away.
Christians in former Yugoslavia slaughtered non-Christians in the 90s. In the name of their religion.
Today, as we speak, Christians are committing genocide in the world’s newest nation–a 100% Christian South Sudan–which was “liberated” from Islamic Sudan in 2011. Christians have slaughtered each other their since soon after their independence.
Because American media ignores these issues does not make them go away.
The whole point that I’m working on here is this: Barbarians exist in all religions. Every religion considers itself supreme. Extremists of all religions have inflicted massive human slaughter in the name of their religion.
Instead of amateur scriptural exegis, maybe it would be better to examine the international political scene. Why did Islamic terrorism begin after 1948?
LOL! My irrational beliefs?
Kent, you are the party defending terrorist belief systems, and judging Christianity by its misuse.
Get a grip.
Mohammad taught convert or die, Christ taught us to love one another.
The genocide in Rwanda was the endpoint (hopefully) of a slow motion civil war. It’s the almost inevitable outcome when a population is oppressed for many generations, then finds itself with more political and military power than it’s traditional oppressors. Yes, the Catholic Church promoted the Hutu before the genocide, as did the UN, on the misguided belief that the traditionally oppressed are always morally superior. But the actual conflict was centuries old tribal warfare, and I’m not aware of any church to have publically called for the genocide, or defended it after the fact.
Yugoslavia was in a similar state of centuries old tribal warfare between the Serbs and the Bosniaks, who are still to this day seen as invaders. Remember, Vlad the Impailer was a Christian, who was fighting the Muslims in retribution for their own genocide against the Christians a generation earlier. The situation popped the moment they no longer had the Soviets threatening (convincingly) to kill everyone, if they didn’t pretend to get along. That war is far from over, and will most assuredly pop up again within a generation. Religion certainly played a role, but it was mainly as a marker to determine which side one was on. The invaders (many centuries ago) were Muslims. It’s their descendants which the Serbs still hate, ostensibly for the original invasion. Of course, it’s now far deeper than religion, simply because of the time scale.
South Sudan, once again, is centuries old tribal warfare. When Mohammed’s generals conquered the area, northern Sudan adopted Islam. When the Europeans came through a thousand years later, the south adopted Christianity. The two were never united. The problem arose because European bureaucrats, entirely divorced from religious or tribal realities, divided Africa up along largely arbitrary lines, forcing enemies into unwelcome alliances. The history of Africa since WWII is largely the winding down of those arbitrarily drawn lines. The fact that the root of a conflict lies in Europe, does not make it the fault of Christianity. There are plenty of other forces at work in Europe.
I don’t think anyone would argue that Christianity has clean hands, historically. But for the most part, Christian leaders are currently peaceful. In my lifetime, I’ve never heard of a high ranking official in any Christian sect calling for non-believers to be killed. Nor have I heard that from Hindus, nor Buddhists. But I’ve heard many high ranking Muslim officials call for exactly that. I have heard it a few times from Jewish leaders, as well, but the realities of Israel need to be considered. Without the West Bank, Israel is only 7 miles wide, at it’s narrowest point. They’re largely surrounded by people with the explicitly stated goal of exterminating them. And, Frankly, the Jews share much of their faith with Islam, including the near deification of several military conquerors. Like Christianity, Islam recognizes most of the Torah as well. But this is where Christianity differs. Christ’s teachings and actions were a shit toward the much more peaceful beliefs of Buddhism. I don’t know enough about Muhammad’s teachings to comment on them, but his actions were plainly a shift toward militancy. Where Christ taught that the Old Testament was wrong for it’s intolerance, Muhammad, by his actions, taught that the Old Testament was wrong for it’s tolerance. This shift was largely repeated in Christianity, with the Protestant Reformation. Luther, among others, emphasized basically the same point as Gator, that Christ’s teachings were inherently peaceful. To a large degree, the Catholic genocide in the new world, along with the crusades, and the various inquisitions, were the cause of the rift in Christianity. Luther read Christ’s teachings as Gator does, and could no longer accept what the Catholic Church had become. Once he made Bibles commonly available, in languages the common people could understand, Europeans mostly agreed that the Catholic hierarchy had lost it’s way. Much of the continent renounced the Pope, The people who didn’t were still outraged enough to demand that their church fix the problem. By the 20th century, the various Christian sects have largely grown back together, having universally renounced the militancy of the Catholics in the middle ages.
Islam has yet to renounce it’s violent past, and still promotes it today.
Ted,
Your historical analysis of the Christian genocides is spot on. They are the result of millenia of culture, ethnicity, territory, government, colonial meddling, current meddling, and religion, among other factors, all mixed together. There’s nothing inherently evil in Tutsis, or Anglicans. But they slaughtered in the name of their group, and justified their slaughter in the name of their religion, tribe, ethnicity, or other factor.
Take that one step further–the intra-religious, regional, millenia-old civil war unfolding in Iraq/Syria/Lebanon/Turkey/Israel is exactly the same.
And take that another step further–there are NO American interests in any of these regional civil wars. Meddling in them simply wastes American blood and treasure.
We could meddle in all of them. We could drone various people connected to plots, weapons, attacks, and other incidents, in civil wars all around the globe. But that would do no more than simply create a new generation of people who hated America, as is happening now in Syria/Iraq/Lebanon/Palestine/Israel.
Imagine that we took the same approach to “terrorism” in the Protestant/Catholic, intra-religious, regional civil war that raged (and is raging) in the United Kingdom. The Irish Republican Army is/was a brutal, ruthless, murderous terrorist organization which killed thousands–in the name of their religion and their territory. Imagine we branded Catholicism a religion of hatred and violence, picked out quotations from Catholic scripture to prove it, declared war on Catholics, and assassinated by drone bishops, priests, lay leaders of Irish Catholicism.
You think there might be a backlash from Catholics in general, and Irish Catholics in particular against our actions? Think there may be Catholics, and Irish, who would act against us? Bet there would.
I completely agree that the internal affairs of the middle east are both centuries old tribal conflicts, and none of our business. We’ve been dragged into them by our thirst for oil, our misguided racial guilt over Hitler’s treatment of Jews, and the general lust for power of those sociopaths who sadly dominate western politics. And I’m 100% in favor of pulling every American soldier out of the middle east, and every other foreign country. I think our military should be entirely reactionary. I think it’s the duty of those who claim the moral high ground to risk absorbing a first strike, and to give no one a reason to. If we stick to that, I feel we’d be justified in swift, severe, and very temporary retaliation. And any proactive military action, or even political meddling, deserves a similar response from whomever we do it to. But I think my position is very similar to the word of Christ, and the fact that western governments don’t live up to those standards does not constitute an indictment of Christianity. Western governments are almost universally secular. (Israel, standing astride both civilizations, is the only meaningful exception) In Islamic countries, religion and government are heavily linked, and commonly inseparable. The actions of an American president are neither directed by any church, nor necessarily condoned by it. In contrast, the actions of an Ayatollah ARE the actions of a church.
I guess it’s largely a semantic argument. But my point is that just because a person (or culture) commits an atrocity, doesn’t mean he acts with the intent of promoting his faith. When a person explicitly states that his faith is his reason, a different conclusion can be drawn. Particularly so when his church publicly accepts “credit” for the act. In the past, Christianity has certainly been in that position. At the moment, to my knowledge, it’s not. But Islam largely is.
Frankly, I see pretty much every war as more of a racial conflict than anything else. Religions, being largely determined by race, take much of the blame. I think that’s unfair to religions like today’s Christianity, which have little authority in such matters. Until Encyclicals carry the same political weight as Fatwas, and until those Encyclicals include orders for the murder of non-believers, I can’t accept Christianity and Islam as morally equivalents.
Ted,
You may not like it, or you may simply be unable to perceive the reality due to biases, but genocide and massacres have been committed, from antiquity to today, in the name of Christianity, in response to Christian leaders’ commands (fatwas?):
“According to a report by a World Council of Churches team that visited Rwanda in August 1994, “In every conversation we had with the government and church people alike, the point was brought home to us that the church itself stands tainted, not by passive indifference, but by errors of commission as well.”(3) My own research in Rwanda in 1992-93 and 1995-96 confirms these conclusions. According to my findings, church personnel and institutions were actively involved in the program of resistance to popular pressures for political reform that culminated in the 1994 genocide, and numerous priests, pastors, nuns, brothers, catechists, and Catholic and Protestant lay leaders supported, participated in, or helped to organize the killings.”
http://faculty.vassar.edu/tilongma/Church&Genocide.html
Pretending it’s not so, or being ignorant of the reality, does not make it go away.
It’s happening today in South Sudan. Christian leaders are guiding, urging, ordering, in the name of their religion, massacres and genocide. And it is happening in other places in the name of Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Confucianism, Marxism, and other -isms.
Barbarians of all religions misuse their religion for evil. Mix in regional, tribal, ethnic, racial, economic, and other social factors, into the brew of regional civil war, let stew for millenia, then decapitate the strong-men keeping the genie in the bottle–and you have today’s Middle East. Nothing to do with the existential belief system of one religion or another–they’re all the same. Ready to justify slaughter in God’s name. Always have, always will.
An uncomprehending lashing out at an unfamiliar belief system is probably understandable, but it is not constructive, nor rational, nor helpful. Cool analysis of why Muslims hold animosity towards the USA (hint, there were no Islamic terrorist attacks against the USA before 1948) would be much more constructive. The terrorists usually explain very clearly why they attack the US (hint: it’s not because of our freedom).
Ted….+1
kent, when those radicalized christians in Sudan and Rwanda and the rest of those third world slime holes start exporting their terror…get back to us
In the mean time, all you’re saying is that Christians, Jews etc evolved…and the others didn’t
Latitude,
A couple of things. This discussion began as an exploration of confused theology–not of the global threat of America’s meddling in regional civil wars.
That said, please read above–the analogy to the religion-based civil war in the UK. If we droned Irish Catholic houses, cars, weddings, gatherings, and suspects, and meddled in that civil war, you can bet that Irish Catholics in America would take action against American interests, sooner or later, and probably would justify their actions with religion. Why did we NOT murder, harass and bomb the IRA?
You can guarantee that the Christians in South Sudan would begin taking actions against the USA if we rained Hellfire missiles by drones onto leaders of their various factions, and dropped bombs on their villages. The longer such meddling went on, the longer and more frequently they’d attack us.
Terrorism is a political action–not a religious action. If the religion is an organizing principle, then actors will use their religion to justify their terrorism. See Zionist terrorism in the formation of Israel.
The point is that Islamic extremists are not striking the US for religious reasons. They are striking the US for political reasons. See the comments about the millenia-old, intra-religious, regional civil war in Iraq/Syria/Israel/Lebanon. Attacks against Americans are, what is known in the intelligence business, blowback–or unintended (?) consequences.
Meddling in wars that are not our business creates unintended consequences. Shoot, meddling in wars that ARE our business creates unintended consequences–Puerto Rican terrorism, for example. But why in heaven’s name should we meddle in brutal civil wars where there are no American interests?
My theology is not confused.
Kent, it is very simple. “Christians” that murder are not following the teachings of Christ. Muslims that murder are following the teachings of Mohammad.
What part of this do you not get Kent?
Wave your hands some more, gator. Proclaim some more. Your claims don’t make it so.
An ability to discern “true Christians” from false; and “true Muslims” from “radicals” must be very useful. Maybe you can get work with St Peter at the Pearly Gates!
Dismissing any Christian violence as de facto “non-Christian” is known in logic as “circulus in probando”. It’s also known as a logical fallacy.
“Anyone partaking in religious-based violence cannot be a Christian, therefore there is no such thing as Christian violence.”
“The circular argument uses its own conclusion as one of its stated or unstated premises. Instead of offering proof, it simply asserts the conclusion in another form, thereby inviting the listener to accept it as settled when, in fact, it has not been settled. Because the premise is no different from and therefore as questionable as its conclusion, a circular argument violates the criterion of acceptability.”
Tell that to the Provisional IRA. Tell that to Mugabe in Zimbabwe. Tell that to the Mexican Catholic narco-terrorists. Tell that to the Lords Resistance Army in Uganda–all slaughter in the name of Christ. Maybe you need to let them know they are not Christians?
“LRA attacked a Catholic church in Ezo, South Sudan, on the Feast of the Assumption, with reports of victims being crucified, causing Ugandan Archbishop John Baptist Odama to call on the international community for help in finding a peaceful solution to the crisis.[39][40][41] In December 2009, the LRA forces under Dominic Ongwen killed at least 321 civilians and abducted 250 others during a four-day rampage in the village and region of Makombo in the DR Congo.[20][42] In February 2010, about 100 people were massacred by the LRA in Kpanga, near DR Congo’s border with the Central African Republic and Sudan.[43] Small-scale attacks continued daily, displacing large numbers of people and worsening an ongoing humanitarian crisis which the UN described as one of the worst in the world.[44] By May 2010, the LRA killed over 1,600 Congolese civilians and abducted more than 2,500.[45] Between September 2008 and July 2011, the group, despite being down to only a few hundred fighters, has killed more than 2,300 people, abducted more than 3,000, and displaced over 400,000 across the DR Congo, South Sudan and the Central African Republic.”
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Kent, at this point I hope for your sake you are simply being willfully ignorant, and not as dense as you are coming off. If you cannot understand the very simple logic and truth I have repeatedly offered, I am truly sorry for you.
gator69,
Stop with the insults.
I served in the war against global terror, from 9/12 for about 5 years. I was the CIA rep to the Coalition Ground Forces commander as we prepared to invade Iraq. I served in Baghdad. I’ve spent, off and on, more than 30 years in the Middle East, Africa, Europe and Southeast Asia, much of that fighting Islamic extremism.
Here’s an article that Mark Bowden wrote about a counter-terrorism operation I ran in the Philippines–which resulted in the rescue of two American missionaries, held hostage for more than a year by Islamic rebels in Mindanao, Philippines:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/03/jihadists-in-paradise/305613/
Read my interview with Newsmax, from 2009, about Obama undermining the war on terror:
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/kent-clizbe-terror-obama/2009/09/12/id/334958/
When you have one hundredth of my experience, knowledge, and insights into terrorism, Islamic extremism, and related issues, I’d be happy to continue the discussion with you. Until then, I’d suggest you break out of your comfort zone–get out and see the world. Start in Uganda, South Sudan, Zimbabwe, Michoacan, Then visit Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Jeddah, Dhammam, Oman, Qatar, Dubai.
And while you’re at it, learn a little respect and humility.
Believe it or not Kent, I have checked you and your work out, and was about to list you as a must read with friends and family until you started making comments that are ludicrous. You and I have tangled before.
Now quit trying to bury us in BS and show me where this statement is untrue and/or irrelevant to the problem we face with Islam today.
“Christians” that murder are not following the teachings of Christ. Muslims that murder are following the teachings of Mohammad.
Gator,
You’ve crossed the line.
You know who I am, you know my expertise.
Who are you? What is your background? What is your expertise?
I tried, gently, to guide you from your error. You’ve gone from ignorant ranting to personal insults. I patiently refuted each of your mistaken assertions.
Please do provide some insight into the background of your anthropological and religious insights.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but you come off like an ignoramus sitting in his parents’ basement in his pj’s. A big talker, full of piss and vinegar. Gonna take on those damn Muzzies. Just let ’em get near my basement!
Enough. Rant on. In the meantime, I’ll be out here in the real world, actually tackling the threats to our country–internal and external–from NOAA to radical Islamism.
Grow up, get out and learn about the world before you spout off any more.
And you sound like an apologist for a known warlord turned prophet.
Quit trying to bury us in BS and show me where this statement is untrue and/or irrelevant to the problem we face with Islam today.
“Christians” that murder are not following the teachings of Christ. Muslims that murder are following the teachings of Mohammad.
kent, just one thing
I was replying to what you actually said.
Lat,
“I’m replying to what you actually said…”
“In the mean time, all you’re saying is that Christians, Jews etc evolved…and the others didn’t…”
Really?
That’s not what I said at all. You must be divorced? You sound like an ex-wife!
I specifically provided modern examples of Christian barbarity–today, this week, last month, last year, in the last 50 years. Deeds done in the name of Christianity are as barbarous today as ever. Pretending it’s not so does not make it go away. See South Sudan, Rwanda, Bosnia, and many more.
There are modern examples of barbarity for every single religion, including Judaism and Christianity.
That’s what I said, and say.
“Christian barbarity” is an oxymoron, Christ taught us to love one another. Now what kind of a moron are you?
gator69: “Christian barbarity” is an oxymoron, Christ taught us to love one another. Now what kind of a moron are you?”
A damned ill-informed patronising culturally relativist one.
kentclizbe says: “It is from the Christian BIBLE–the Judaic Torah”
THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE IS NOT THE JUDAIC TORAH.
Learn to read, dipstick.
Weasle,
First, keep a civil tongue in your head. Ad hominem name-calling demeans you, not me.
Second, yes, the Christian Bible does include the Old Testament.
Third, the Torah is the five books of the Old Testament.
If you have any other points of confusion, happy to clear them up for you.
“The Old Testament is the first section of the Christian Bible, based primarily upon the Hebrew Bible, a collection of religious writings by ancient Israelites.”
“Hebrew Bible or Hebrew Scriptures (Latin: Biblia Hebraica) is the term used by biblical scholars to refer to the Tanakh (Hebrew: ??”??), the canonical collection of Jewish texts, which is the common textual source of the several canonical editions of the Christian Old Testament.”
“The Torah is the Law, commonly known as the first five books of the Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. The rest of the books of the Old Testament are known as “The Prophets.” The word, “torah,” means “instruction” or “teaching,” and the majority of it consists of instructions given to Moses by God at Mount Sinai.
“The Law, the Torah given in the first five books, consists of three main categories. First, there is the moral Law dealing with such things as lying, adultery, theft, etc., (Exodus 20). Second, there is the judicial aspect of the Law (Deuteronomy 17:8-11) which deals with punishments, disputes, government rulings, etc. Finally, the third aspect of the law is the priestly or sacrificial system (Leviticus 7:37, Numbers 19:2). These instructions deal with how to sacrifice animals, what the priests are to do and where, etc.”
“Second, yes, the Christian Bible does include the Old Testament.”
I reserve the right to use whatever form of address I feel necessary to describe any individual so profoundly crass as to attempt to conflate the many millennia old stories of the purported behaviour of the various tribes described in Old Testament with the multitude of atrocities committed on a daily basis in the present by modern Islam in an attempt to decry the Christianity preached by Christ and excuse the vileness of the Jihadis.
Oh, and it’s Catweazle, not weasle.
“there were no Islamic terrorist attacks against the USA before 1948”
The very first foreign military action in American history was in retaliation for Islamic terrorism. Specifically, Libyan piracy. I actually agree that Islam poses no existential threat to the US, at least not within the next several generations. But it currently does pose a threat to Europe. And that threat has more to do with the moral equivalence that you’re espousing, than any aggression by Christianity. Western governments are playing both sides. They’re making life rough for Muslims at home, then playing the violin for European natives, trying to guilt them into accepting more refugees. They’re using claims of moral equivalence to quell the very justified European outrage toward the unwelcome changing of their societies. The governments are trying to replace their electorates with people they feel will be easier to control. (the US government is playing the same game with central Americans) Religion has nothing to do with it, from Christianity’s end. It’s entirely the secular governments pulling the strings. From the Muslim side, a considerable number of clerics are encouraging those refugees to work toward overthrowing the governments of their new countries. Just like the Europeans, they’re using their citizens as pawns for their own purposes. The difference is that the leaders of those Muslim countries are also the leaders of their faith, where European governments are secular. That makes it entirely proper to blame Islamic leadership for the actions of Islamic countries, but not blame Christian leadership for the actions of Christian countries.
What you’re missing in both the Sudan, and Rwanda, is that those Christian leaders who supported the atrocities were locals. They hated each other, and wanted to exterminate each other, long before they converted to Christianity. It could be argued that the genocide started BECAUSE the foreign church leaders pulled out. While they maintained some level of power, there was still relative peace. Those were both inevitable civil wars, between ancient racial enemies. In my estimation, race almost always trumps religion, and I think the Rwanda genocide supports my theory. From the article you linked:
“As the contents of this volume indicate, that religious institutions should be implicated in a genocide is not exceptional. In Rwanda, however, unlike the genocides of Armenians in Turkey, Jews in Europe in World War II, and Muslims in Bosnia, and to the genocidal violence between Hindus, Muslims, and Sikhs in India and Christians and various Muslim groups in Lebanon, religion did not serve as an ascriptive identifier to demarcate a social group as an essential “other.”(5) Both Catholic and Protestant churches in Rwanda are multi-ethnic, and the genocide in Rwanda occurred within religious groups. In most communities members of a church parish killed their fellow parishioners and even, in a number of cases, their own pastor or priest.”
A reasonable parallel, at least with Rwanda, would be if American blacks were to, within a single lifetime, gain a decisive military advantage over American whites. Many blacks would see it as their chance for payback. I’d expect to see massive retaliation for centuries old crimes, and possibly millions of deaths. I’m sure there would be plenty of black ministers promoting the killing, and plenty of white ministers promoting retaliatory killings of their own. But that wouldn’t make it a religious war. Baptist blacks wouldn’t be killing Methodist whites because they’re Methodist. They’d be killing them because they’re white.
Let’s throw all our cards on the table here. As Americans use the terms, Christianity means white people, and Islam means (ethnically) Semitic people, except for Jews. You’re plainly implying that Jews are a bigger problem than either. Personally, I’m torn on the Jewish question. I see Jewish leadership as opportunists, who’ve parlayed their legitimate victimhood into far more power than their numbers warrant. I don’t see how America, or Christianity, owes any debt to Judaism, nor do I see how they owe us anything. I think the relationship should be that of friends, but not military allies. I think that’s the relationship we should maintain with EVERY country, exactly as George Washington suggested. That’s why I favor leaving the entire middle east, Israel included. I do worry that Israel, if left to themselves, may feel it necessary to use nuclear weapons on their many, many enemies. The numerical disadvantage is utterly insurmountable, if a full scale war breaks out. With that in mind, our presence in the middle east may actually be a net positive for Islam. But I respect their right to refuse our protection, if they so choose. And I think they’ve clearly articulated their choice.
Yes, those Muslims currently committing terrorist acts are probably doing it for racial and political reasons, shrouded in religious excuses. Europeans and middle easterners have been killing each other since before even Judaism came around. It’s nothing new. The difference is that many Muslim religious leaders are currently supporting those religious excuses, where Christian leaders are almost universally calling for peace. The western leaders promoting (and perpetrating) violence are utterly secular. They don’t shroud their racial/political motives in religious rhetoric any more. They’d certainly like to, but Christian leadership longer allows it.
“Deeds done in the name of Christianity are as barbarous today as ever.”
It’s not a question of what the barbarian claims as his reasons. It whether or not the Church supports his claim. And, as Gator says, it’s whether or not the barbarism is in line with the teachings that the Church promotes. Catholic violence in the middle ages was counter to the teachings of Christ. When Luther made it possible for the common man to read Christ’s teachings for himself, they saw that Christ would not have supported the actions of the Church, in that era. They almost destroyed the Church, in disgust. Today’s Muslims can not point to the Koran as evidence that Islam has lost it’s way. Muhammad himself spread Islam at the point of a spear. Christ did no such thing.
I don’t know much about the IRA. But I don’t recall any 20th century Pope ever telling any Irishman to blow up any Englishman. Much like in the Sudanese conflict, religion is merely a proxy for racial hatred. The Irish have NEVER welcomed the British. (at one point an Irish king did invite Britain in, to help defeat his own enemies, but the Irish people have always been against it) If Henry the eighth could have kept his pants on, Britain would probably still be Catholic. But the Irish would still object to the occupation of Northern Ireland.
Violence perpetrated by a member of a religion is very different, conceptually, from violence perpetrated at the behest of a religion. Modern Christian leaders don’t ask their followers to commit violence. Many modern Muslim leaders do. Christ didn’t call for violence against non-believers. Muhammad did.
great….one more thing for me to have to worry about
Methodist Madrassas
Since October 10, ISIS and its sympathizers around the world have killed at least 525 people in six attacks in six countries outside its so-called caliphate.
still looking for that Methodist caliphate…….
The ISIS Trail of Death
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/isis-trail-death-n475861
Latitude: “Since October 10, ISIS and its sympathizers around the world have killed at least 525 people in six attacks in six countries outside its so-called caliphate.”
A damn sight more than that.
H/T James Anderson
List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 30 Days Date/Country/City/Killed/Injured/Description
2015.11.24 Egypt al-Araish 7 17 Two bombings at a hotel, one a suicide attack, leave six others dead.
2015.11.24 Tunisia Tunis 12 16 A dozen people on a bus are reduced to pulp by a Religion of Peace bomb blast.
2015.11.23 Israel Beit Horon 1 1 An 18-year-old Israel is stabbed to death by Arabs.
2015.11.22 Nigeria Maiduguri 8 7 A female suicide bomber exterminates eight people at a displaced persons camp.
2015.11.22 Israel Etzion 1 0 A young Israeli woman is brutally stabbed to death by Palestinians.
2015.11.21 Cameroon Leymarie 5 15 Five civilians are laid out by three female suicide bombers outside their residence.
2015.11.20 Iraq Makhmour 7 0 Seven Kurds are killed during an attack by the Islamic State.
2015.11.20 Mali Bamako 27 6 Gunmen yelling ‘Allah Akbar’ storm a hotel and kill or capture dozens of people who are unable to recite Quran verses.
2015.11.20 Pakistan Ittehad 4 0 Hardline gunmen pick off four guards outside a rival mosque during Friday prayers.
2015.11.20 Iraq Baghdad 10 28 Ten worshippers at a Shiite mosque are sent straight to Allah by a Sunni suicide bomber.
2015.11.19 Israel Gush Etzion 3 4 An American teenager is among three people cut down by an Arab drive-by shooter.
2015.11.19 Israel Tel Aviv 2 3 Two worshippers at a synagogue are stabbed to death by a Muslim terrorist.
2015.11.18 Bosnia Sarajevo 2 1 An ‘ultra-conservative’ Salafi fires an automatic weapon into a gambling shop, killing two guards.
2015.11.18 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 0 The Taliban take out two brothers with a planted explosive.
2015.11.18 Bangladesh Dinajpur 0 1 An Italian priest is stabbed by Islamists.
2015.11.18 France Marseille 0 1 A Jewish teacher is stabbed by ‘radicalized’ Muslims.
2015.11.18 Saudi Arabia al-Qatif 2 0 Two local cops are shot to death by suspected Shiite extremists.
2015.11.18 Nigeria Kano 15 123 Fifteen patrons at a mobile phone market are sent to the afterlife by two child suicide bombers, including an 11-year-old girl.
2015.11.18 Syria Raqqa 2 0 A Norwegian and a Chinese hostage are executed by the Islamic State after being captured.
2015.11.18 Iraq Mahmoudiya 2 6 Jihadis set off a bomb at a popular market, killing two patrons.
2015.11.17 Iraq Tuz Khurmatu 1 0 A Kurdish doctor on his way to work is ambushed and killed by Shiite radicals.
2015.11.17 Nigeria Yola 34 80 Islamists bomb a fruit and vegetable market, obliterating thirty-four patrons.
2015.11.17 Philippines Jolo 1 0 A businessman is beheaded by Abu Sayyaf.
2015.11.17 Iraq Taji 2 8 Mujahideen kill two people with a planted bomb.
2015.11.16 Iraq Baghdad 2 8 Radicals set off a bomb outside a car parts shop, killing two passersby.
2015.11.16 Iraq Nineveh 45 0 Media figures are among forty-five civilians pulled from their homes and executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.16 Yemen Mocha 44 0 Forty-four Yemenis near a port are killed during a brutal ambush by Shiite rebels.
2015.11.15 Iraq Sinjar 70 0 Two more mass graves are unearthed with the bodies of seventy Yazidi minority victims of ISIS execution.
2015.11.15 Iraq Tuz Khormato 1 0 Shiite militia murder a 14-year-old Kurd.
2015.11.15 Pakistan Gulshan-e-Iqbal 2 0 Two Shia guards outside a minority religion complex are picked off in a targeted shooting by Sunnis.
2015.11.15 Iraq Baghdad 7 15 Seven people are killed by a series of Mujahideen bombings.
2015.11.15 Iraq Ameriyat al-Fallujah 3 5 Three Iraqis are dismantled by an ISIS rocket.
2015.11.15 Turkey Gaziantep 0 5 An ISIS suicide bomber injures five policemen.
2015.11.15 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 1 12 A Shahid suicide bomber detonates along a city street.
2015.11.14 Iraq Mosul 1 0 The head of a university physics department is executed by ISIS.
2015.11.14 Iraq Sinjar 78 0 A mass grave is unearthed, containing seventy-eight elderly female victims of ISIS execution.
2015.11.14 Pakistan Karachi 2 0 Two police officers are shot to death by the Tehreek-e-Taliban.
2015.11.14 Iraq Tal Afar 20 0 Twenty Kurds are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.14 Iraq Mandali 1 1 A Shahid suicide car bomber kills a bystander.
2015.11.14 Yemen Mahwit 1 0 One other person is killed when a suicide bomber explodes prematurely outside a mosque.
2015.11.14 Somalia Kismayo 15 25 At least fifteen are left dead after a surprise attack by al-Shabaab.
2015.11.13 France Paris 1 0 Islamic terrorists eliminate a passerby with two suicide blasts outside a soccer stadium (Stade de France) and a nearby McDonalds’s.
2015.11.13 Iraq Baghdad 21 46 A suicide bomber strikes a Shia funeral, laying out twenty-one mourners.
2015.11.13 Iraq Sadr City 5 15 Sunnis set off a bomb near a Shiite shrine, killing five passersby.
2015.11.13 Israel Otniel 2 5 A Jewish father and son are murdered by Palestinians as they are on their way to a wedding event.
2015.11.13 Tunisia Sawar Soultaniya 1 0 Islamists behead a 16-year-old shepherd and send the head back to his family.
2015.11.13 France Paris 19 9 Islamic terrorists pile up nineteen bodies at a restaurant (Belle Equipe).
2015.11.13 France Paris 15 10 Islamic terrorists massacre fifteen innocents at two restaurants (Le Carillon and Le Petit Cambodge).
2015.11.13 France Paris 0 3 Islamic terrorists stage a suicide bombing outside a cafe Comptoir Voltaire).
2015.11.13 France Paris 5 8 Islamic terrorists shoot up a bar and pizzeria, killing five patrons (La Bonne Biere, Casa Nostra).
2015.11.13 France Paris 89 322 Islamic terrorists open fire and throw bombs during a concert at a music hall, slaughtering nearly ninety innocents while shouting ‘Allah Akbar’ (Bataclan).
2015.11.13 Yemen Shibam 3 14 At least three people are left dead after terrorists bomb a rival mosque.
2015.11.12 Lebanon Beirut 43 240 Two Sunni suicide bombers massacre over forty people in a Shiite residential neighborhood.
2015.11.12 Jordan Irbid 2 0 In the name of honor, a man beheads his sister and stabs her 15-year-old son.
2015.11.12 Italy Milan 0 1 A Haredi Jew is stabbed nine times by a masked Muslim.
2015.11.12 Syria al-Heisha 4 0 A boy, his grandfather and two farmers reduced to pulp by an ISIS missile.
2015.11.12 CAR Bandambou 6 0 Six hunters are shot to death by suspected Seleka militants.
2015.11.12 Thailand Pattani 4 4 Four Thais are exterminated by Jihadi bombers.
2015.11.11 Niger Bossa 5 0 At least five civilians are killed when Boko Haram attack a village.
2015.11.11 Egypt Harhor 8 1 A child is among eight family members slaughtered in their home by fundamentalist militants.
2015.11.11 Iraq Ekreshat 22 0 Twenty-two civil servants are marched out to a field and executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.11 Iraq Baiji 13 0 Thirteen members of two families are crushed to death in their own homes by ISIS explosives.
2015.11.11 Iraq Tarmiya 2 4 Two people are killed when Jihadis bomb a market.
2015.11.10 Iraq Hussainiyah 4 7 Terrorists set off a bomb in a residential neighborhood, killing four.
2015.11.10 Afghanistan Khak-i-Afghan 2 0 At least two others are killed by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.11.10 Pakistan Guddu 2 0 Islamic terrorists sneak up on a police post and machine-gun two officers.
2015.11.10 Yemen Sanaa 1 0 An American contractor dies in custody after being kidnapped by Shiite militia.
2015.11.10 India Madikeri 1 20 A farmer’s skull is crushed from a rock thrown by angry Muslims during a an anti-Hindu riot.
2015.11.10 Iraq Dora 2 0 Two merchants are shot to death by Islamists.
2015.11.10 Iraq Baghdad 3 8 A blast at an outdoor market leaves three dead.
2015.11.10 Iraq Shaab 2 7 A Sunni bomb rips through a parking lot, killing two.
2015.11.10 Syria Latakia 23 65 Sunnis send rockets into an area near a university, sending sixty-five to the hospital and twenty-three to the morgue.
2015.11.09 Pakistan Karachi 1 3 One person is cut down by sectarian Jihadis.
2015.11.09 Jordan Amman 5 4 Two Americans and a South African are gunned down along with two locals by an Islamic extremist in uniform.
2015.11.09 CAR Ndassima 10 8 Muslim militia cut the throats of ten Christian villagers.
2015.11.09 Israel Hilhul Junction 1 6 Six Israelis are stabbed or run over by Palestinians. A victim also dies of wounds suffered in an earlier attack.
2015.11.09 Cameroon Fotokol 3 20 At least three others are killed when female suicide bombers attack a rival mosque.
2015.11.09 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three young people are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.08 Syria Aleppo 4 3 A child is among four civilians cut down by a Sunni rocket.
2015.11.08 Yemen Sanaa 16 6 Shiite militants are thought responsible for a brutal bombing that killed sixteen government troops at their barracks.
2015.11.08 iraq Baghdad 2 8 A bomb at a popular market produces a bloody mess and two dead bodies.
2015.11.08 Iraq Sadr City 7 20 A double suicide bombing at a Shiite market lays out seven patrons.
2015.11.08 Chad Ngouboua 3 12 Two female suicide bombers murder three refugees at a fishing village.
2015.11.08 Afghanistan Rasani 7 0 Two women and a child are among seven civilians kidnapped and beheaded by ISIS.
2015.11.07 Iraq Tarmiya 6 0 A suicide bomber claims six other lives.
2015.11.07 Iraq Albu Haiyat 5 12 Roadside bombs take care of five Iraqis, with a dozen surviving.
2015.11.07 Iraq Baghdad 3 15 Two Jihad bombings leave three dead.
2015.11.07 Pakistan Quetta 2 0 Two Hazara religious minorities are sprayed with bullets by Ahle Sunnat wal Jamaat members.
2015.11.06 Iraq Yusufiya 1 2 Jihadi bombers take out a woman and injure her two children.
2015.11.06 Iraq Maidan 2 5 Two people at a meat market are butchered by ISIS bombers.
2015.11.06 Iraq Baghdad 3 9 Bombers target a residential area, killing three unfortunates.
2015.11.06 Libya Ajdabiya 1 0 A Salifi cleric is shot to death by Religion of Peace rivals.
2015.11.06 Pakistan Quetta 1 1 A Shiite is gunned down by Sunni radicals.
2015.11.06 Afghanistan Shamir 1 0 Religion of Peace activists kill a rival cleric with a car bomb.
2015.11.05 Iraq Baghdad 2 6 A bomb placed on a bus kills two passengers.
2015.11.05 Lebanon Arsal 5 15 Five Muslim scholars are taken out by a suicide blast from a Religion of Peace rival.
2015.11.04 USA Merced, CA 0 4 A student vowing to behead and ‘praise Allah’ stabs four others on campus.
2015.11.04 Iraq Tal Afar 2 0 Two men are forced to kneel and then shot in the back of the head by Islamic warriors.
2015.11.04 Afghanistan Shah Joy 1 0 The Taliban murder a civil activist on his way to work.
2015.11.04 Syria Coleman 2 0 Two people are murdered by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2015.11.04 Iraq Baghdad 3 14 Two bombs claim the lives of three bystanders.
2015.11.04 Egypt al-Arish 5 10 A suicide bomber plows into a police club, killing at least five others.
2015.11.04 Bangladesh Ashulia 1 1 Islamists hack a police officer to death during a traffic stop.
2015.11.04 Syria Mayadeen 3 0 Three brothers are publicly and slowly tortured to death by the Islamic State.
2015.11.03 Syria Harasta 1 0 Shrapnel from a Sunni rocket kills a woman on her way to work.
2015.11.03 Afghanistan Tank 1 0 A journalist and father of five is shot to death by Sunni fundamentalists.
2015.11.03 Pakistan Salarzai 1 2 Sharia activists set off a bomb that kills a tribal elder and injures his two sons.
2015.11.03 Iraq Dibis 4 15 Four people are murdered by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.11.02 India Bharuch 2 0 Two Hindu leaders are assassinated by Muslim terrorists.
2015.11.02 Iraq Mahmoudiya 2 6 Terrorists set off a bomb at a popular market, killing two innocents.
2015.11.02 Iraq Badush 3 0 Three female doctors are put against a wall and shot in the head by the Islamic State.
2015.11.02 Somalia Walaweyn 15 15 Fifteen Somalis are killed in a road ambush by al-Shabaab.
2015.11.02 Syria Homs 3 0 Three men are executed by Quran-quoting Muslims.
2015.11.02 Afghanistan Ghor 1 0 A 19-year-old woman is stoned to death for premarital sex.
2015.11.02 Israel Rishon Lezion 0 3 An 80-year-old woman is among three stabbed by a Palestinian terrorist outside a store.
2015.11.01 Somalia Mogadishu 12 10 a dozen people at a hotel are massacred by suicide bombers, followed by gunfire.
2015.11.01 Syria Maheen 50 0 Two suicide car bombings followed by a sustained assault leave at least fifty other dead.
2015.11.01 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three Kurds are executed for refusing to join the caliphate.
2015.11.01 Pakistan Rana Deray 1 0 Suspected Islamists fire on a car carrying a female judge, killing the driver.
2015.11.01 Chad Bougouma 3 14 A suicide bombing and subsequent attack leave three dead.
2015.10.31 Afghanistan Achin 6 4 Islamists fire rockets into a rival mosque, killing six worshippers.
2015.10.31 Yemen Aden 2 0 Two men are shot to death in separate al-Qaeda drive-bys.
2015.10.31 Bangladesh Shahbagh 1 0 A publisher who sponsored a book critical of Islam is stabbed and beheaded at his office.
2015.10.31 Egypt al-Arish 1 6 A 60-year-old man is blown apart by a fundamentalist bomb blast.
2015.10.31 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A secular political activist is assassinated by suspected Islamists.
2015.10.31 Iraq Mosul 12 0 A dozen teenagers forced into a terror training camp are executed for attempting to flee.
2015.10.31 Nigeria Itu 2 0 Two people are killed when terrorists attack a fish market.
2015.10.31 Egypt Sinai 224 0 Suspected Wilayat Sinai terrorists bomb a Russian airplane carrying two-hundred and twenty-four civilians.
2015.10.31 Bangladesh Lalmatia 0 3 Three secular writers are slashed with knives by Islamists.
2015.10.30 Iraq al-Furat 4 0 Four men are forced to kneel and then shot in the head by caliphate members.
2015.10.30 Turkey Sanliurfa 2 0 Two anti-ISIS journalists are beheaded in Turkey for being ‘apostates’.
2015.10.29 Iraq Baghdad 26 40 Militant Shiites send rockets into a Sunni refugee camp, killing over two dozen.
2015.10.29 Iraq Talsaqif 12 10 A dozen Iraqis are blown apart by an ISIS rocket attack on a power plant.
2015.10.29 Libya Ajdabiya 1 0 The Islamic State takes out a rival cleric with a car bomb.
2015.10.28 Iraq Qayara 3 0 Three tribal elders are burned alive by Islamic State diplomats.
2015.10.28 Libya Banghazi 3 0 Three locals are beheaded by ISIS.
2015.10.28 Afghanistan Darqand 4 0 Four defenders are killed when the Taliban attack a town.
2015.10.28 Iraq Abbasiya 10 0 At least ten Iraqis are killed by two ISIS suicide car bombers.
2015.10.28 Afghanistan Sayid Karam 4 0 Four local cops are slaughtered by the Taliban.
2015.10.28 Iraq al-Hadba 17 0 Seventeen Iraqis die under torture at a caliphate prison.
2015.10.28 Iraq Ghabat 30 0 Seven women are among thirty Iraqis beheaded by the Islamic State
2015.10.28 India Bhutoo 3 0 Three security personnel are murdered by Muslim terrorists.
2015.10.28 Niger Ala 14 3 Fourteen villagers are murdered by Boko Haram.
2015.10.28 Bangladesh Feni 1 0 A woman loses her baby following a Muslim attack on a Hindu celebration.
2015.10.27 Pakistan Angoor Adda 7 3 Terrorists open fire point-blank on a border check post, killing seven guards.
2015.10.27 Syria Deir-ez-Zor 2 0 Two gay men are thrown from a roof by caliphate members.
2015.10.27 Iraq Shirqat 10 0 Ten people are executed for ‘failing to perform their duty to Allah.’
2015.10.27 Iraq Thar Thar 2 10 Two people lose their lives to a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.10.26 Saudi Arabia Najran 2 25 An elderly man is among two worshippers murdered by a suicide bomber at a mosque.
2015.10.26 CAR Bangui 3 0 Three ordinary Christians are targeted, abducted and murdered by Muslim radicals.
2015.10.26 Iraq Husseiniyah 2 0 A married couple is gunned down in a sectarian attack.
2015.10.26 Iraq Madaen 2 9 Jihadis set off a bomb at a popular market, killing two patrons.
2015.10.26 Syria Palmyra 3 0 Three people are strapped to ancient columns and blown up by the caliphate.
2015.10.26 Yemen Aden 2 5 Two souls are sent to Allah by a suicide bomber.
2015.10.26 Israel Kiryat Arba 0 1 An Israeli teen is stabbed in the neck by a Palestinian terrorist.
2015.10.26 Afghanistan Jalalabad 2 6 The Taliban murder two local human rights workers with a remote-controlled bomb.
2015.10.26 Iraq Baghdad 7 23 Seven Shiite pilgrims are slaughtered in their tent by a Sunni suicide bomber.
2015.10.26 Turkey Diyarbakir 2 5 ISIS members open fire on police, killing two.
2015.10.25 Syria Homs 1 0 The Islamic State execute a hostage by driving a tank over him.
2015.10.25 Egypt al-Arish 1 0 A political candidate is gunned down by suspected Brotherhood supporters.
2015.10.25 Syria Asharah 2 0 A man and boy are thrown off a high building on charges of being homosexual.
2015.10.25 Iraq Tarmiya 2 9 A Shahid suicide bomber claims the lives of two others.
2015.10.25 Iraq Aziz 10 7 A suicide car bomber exterminates ten bystanders.
2015.10.25 Syria Aleppo 3 3 Three women are pulled into pieces by a Shuhada Bader rocket.
2015.10.25 Iraq Albu Eitha 15 27 Fifteen Iraqis are blown up.
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/12/02/worlds-stupidest-human/
So come on Kent, you sad little Jihadi apologist, how many atrocities were perpetrated by those evil mass-murdering baby-raping Christians in that 30 day period?
Andy, please do not extend your personal relationship views across the world.
World Public Opinion:
61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010):
60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is “acceptable”.
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml
Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/opinion-polls.htm
Just out of curiousity, what percentage of Christians approved of terror attacks in the name of Christianity?
97%. Mikey Mann counted the votes himself.
Of course, that’s the only number warm mongers know.
That is pretty sick, isn’t it !! So much for the religion of peace… not.
But I can only comment on the Muslims I have met personally.
There are obviously many Muslims out there that are not like those who I have met…
.. and have serious religious brain-washing issues and are basically just filled with irrational hate.
The Muslims I’ve known have been pretty good people too. The fact is, I just want immigration to the US stopped for everyone, at least until the people already here can be assimilated. I bear no ill will toward anyone, nor do I assume that anyone bears me any. But this country is falling apart. It’s long past time for us to get our own house in order. Bringing in still more people, with still more problems, doesn’t advance us toward that goal. If the government wants to push this terrorism scare for it’s purposes, I feel entirely justified in trying to hijack it for my own.
Hey Ted! “Bringing in still more people, with still more problems, doesn’t advance us toward that goal.”
I am pretty much on the same page as you. I fail to understand how our nation is benefited by bringing in Ethiopian goat herders and putting them up in an apartment building in Minneapolis.
Obama has already lost this war in his mind and most everyone outside the DC circle knows it. If you won’t identify the enemy you can’t fight him effectively. If you will not define victory, you can’t achieve victory. Obama has never done either when it comes to threats to the security of this nation and it’s citizens or for the armed forces of which he is Commander and Chief.
Heck he won’t even admit who our traditional allies have been so that we can mutually support each other ie: This administrations obvious antipathy towards the UK and Israel.
France’s far-right National Front appears to have made large gains in the first round of regional elections.
It is the first time elections have been held under a state of emergency implemented after November’s Paris massacre in which 130 people were killed by Islamic extremists.
The party has topped the vote in at least six out of 13 regions, according to pollsters’ projections.
Its leader Marine Le Pen – and her 25-year-old niece Marion Marechal-Le Pen – won 40% of the vote in their respective regions, breaking previous records.
She welcomed the preliminary projections, saying it proved her party was “without contest the first party of France”.
http://news.sky.com/story/1601157/france-national-front-making-gains-polls-say
2 methods for consideration:
1) Since the jihadists are convinced they will go to Paradise with all its attendant pleasures if they die during battle or blow themselves up, this is the belief to counter.
Should a jihadist be exposed to unclean hog parts, like lard, at the time of death they cannot enter Paradise. This idea is to convince all manufacturers of explosives and propellants worldwide to add 1 part per million lard to their product. This addition is small enough not to affect the burn rate of the explosive, yet would expose the jihadists to lard upon detonation. Lard could also be used to lubricate weapons and bullets.
2) Convince important Muslim clerics to pronounce that someone exposed to lard in this manner couldn’t reach Paradise. Publicize these opinions heavily. Jihadists would think twice before signing up for battle or suicide bombing. How does one know that this suicide bomb belt doesn’t have lard in it?
I like the idea of publicizing use of pig products as lubricants for weapons and bullets. I also like the idea of putting pig products hidden aboard public conveyances and in major venues, so that any terrorist suicide attack would wind up defiling themselves. But I don’t know how you would manage point 2. In fact I fear that if the aforementioned were too effective, that some clerics would actually say that jihadist martyrs are an exception to the general rule of not being able to enter paradise if unclean.
It is not the people but the system in which they live which is to blame for most of people’s behavior.
Most Germans didn’t throw people in gas chambers but would have done it when told to do so.
Many Americans don’t like the current police state they live in but how many have stopped paying their (direct) taxes .
The only way to kill a cancer is to eliminate its blood supply.
Why did this take so long?
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlAnr8bIIr8&w=640&h=360%5D
thanks for posting that
Why beat around the bush? Obama is a Muslim…that’s the problem. Islam is not compatible with the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence as well as traditional American culture.
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/40-mind-blowing-quotes-barack-hussein-obama-islam-christianity/
https://youtu.be/XS8DEjd2QBg
traditional American culture ?