State Of The “Super-Hot” Arctic Report

Our top government experts say Greenland is melting down, as Greenland blows away all prior records for ice gain – having gained nearly 500 billion tons of ice since September. Their funding depends on lying.

Greenland Ice Sheet Surface Mass Budget: DMI

And just as the experts predicted fraudsters didn’t predict, Arctic air is moving into Saudi Arabia for the third time this winter.

Third snowstorm covers in white the desert of Saudi Arabia in less than 2 months pictures – Strange Sounds

This is the sound of crooks as their scam deflates.

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86 Responses to State Of The “Super-Hot” Arctic Report

  1. AndyG55 says:

    I wonder how many deaths this bitter cold sweeping the NH has caused?

    Russia has been under it basically all winter.

    Then I wonder how many deaths the “less cold” weather in the Arctic has caused.

    • AndyG55 says:

      In case people miss it..

      down near the bottom of the thread, AndyOz posts a CR map for 14th Feb

      Luckily I had one save from 7th Feb.
      (I was looking at the FREEZING cold where large numbers of people actually live in Canada, Alaska, and Russia/Eastern Europe.)
      You know, the millions of people that scumbag, low-life Arctic worriers don’t give a rat’s a**e about.

      Look at the incredible expansion of the edge between above and below freezing, especially between Svalbard and Scandinavia, and if you look closely, in the Bering Strait and Sea of Okhotsk.

  2. gator69 says:

    I can see the headlines now…

    Unprecedented Meltdown in Saudi Arabia Leads Experts to Predict a New ‘Hottest Year Ever’ for 2017

  3. Martin says:

    More snow in Saudi this winter then I’ve had in Birmingham UK

  4. Andy DC says:

    A weather pattern where some places are very warm and others are very cold. Alarmists are saying that is “Global Weirding”.

    Will a weird planet be as much of a threat to humanity as a warm planet? I don’t think so. All of the weird weather keeps causing record crops in the Corn Belt. There is so much grain that farmers don’t know what to do with it. Global Weirding has also produced fewer severe hurricanes and tornados, so it can’t be all bad.

  5. Jack Striker says:

    Holy cow, it has hit the average MAXIMUM and done it five months early… I don’t really know what this means for future climate predictions, but are the theories about a forthcoming global cooling trend from around 2020 to 2035 supported by this?

    • Griff says:

      No, it is at a record low and has been all winter.

      • AndyG55 says:

        No it is NOT a record low. It was FAR lower for the first 3/4 of the Holocene

        Again, if you restrict your ignorance to propaganda pap from 1979 and the highly beneficial temperature rise out of the LIA.

        Your continued IGNORANCE of climate history is becoming totally PATHETIC.

  6. Griff says:

    and where is the evidence that the arctic is not seeing exceptionally warm temps, throughout the whole of this winter?

    And a series of storms?

    Svalbard just saw a run of over 2 weeks of above freezing temps and the sun isn’t even up yet.

    where are the lies about the temps over the arctic?

    • AndyG55 says:

      Where is the evidence that Alaska and Northern Russia have not seen exceptionally cold , freezing , temperature all winter.

      Where is the evidence that a little less cold I the Arctic is a problems for anyone.

      Where is the evidence that you give a stuff about people dying from energy poverty because they can’t heat their homes.
      You DON’T, do you griff, you evil prat.

      Your little inner-city ghetto basement is easy to heat, isn’t it griff.

    • AndyG55 says:

      If your posts didn’t have such an evil side to them, I would take you for a mindless bot, griff.

      Why do you just love to parade your abject ignorance and total lack of caring for anything but your baseless religion.

      You will do well once your convert to islam.

      • Griff says:

        I am pointing you at actual, real on the ground (ice) observations.

        There really is less ice. There really is a warm stormy arctic. That really affects weather and climate. There is only one explanation for that.

        I’m pointing you at reality and the truth. Because I love science and the truth.

        • AndyG55 says:

          Since the extreme high levels of 1979… so what.

          Far lower during the first 3/4 of the Holocene , before the NEOGLACIATION that led up to the Little Ice Age

          You are pointing out meaningless propaganda fake news, and you know it. Ignoring real climate history.

          Trying to make a point based on your OWN IGNORANCE.

          And don’t LIE. You do everything you can to avoid any real science and the truth.

          You actually DENY CLIMATE CHANGE history in every post you make.

          What a deceitful little scammer you are.

    • gator69 says:

      Svalbard just saw a run of over 2 weeks of above freezing temps and the sun isn’t even up yet.

      Sun? Silly troll, CO2 controls the thermostat. Remember? Or is the thrill of snuffing out another 21,000 yesterday making you even more giddy than normal?

    • Gail Combs says:

      “and where is the evidence that the arctic is not seeing exceptionally warm temp” — Griffy

      As usual Griffy keeps ignoring what REAL SCIENTISTS say.

      SCIENTISTS say the Arctic was ice free and glaciers were smaller or gone during much of the Holocene up until the Little Ice Age.

      Temperature and precipitation history of the Arctic

      …. Solar energy reached a summer maximum (9% higher than at present) ~11 ka ago and has been decreasing since then, primarily in response to the precession of the equinoxes. The extra energy elevated early Holocene summer temperatures throughout the Arctic 1-3°C above 20th century averages, enough to completely melt many small glaciers throughout the Arctic, although the Greenland Ice Sheet was only slightly smaller than at present. Early Holocene summer sea ice limits were substantially smaller than their 20th century average, and the flow of Atlantic water into the Arctic Ocean was substantially greater. As summer solar energy decreased in the second half of the Holocene, glaciers re-established or advanced, sea ice expanded…

      Dansgaard (Greenland Ice core team) noted three rapid climate collapses are linked to orbital features that diminished the radiance from the sun… Climate Crash

      Royal Meteorological Society
      Abrupt and sudden climatic transitions and fluctuations: a review: …A number of persistent oscillations exist, particularly one about 1500 years, but their amplitudes vary considerably between time periods. The Holocene appears to be no more climatically benign than the similar period in the Eemian. The importance of the North Atlantic thermohaline circulation for generating abrupt climatic changes in Europe, particularly in association with sudden pulses of fresh water, is illustrated. The concept of antiphase temperature changes between the North and South Atlantic is discussed. Externally generated abrupt climatic deteriorations owing to explosive volcanic eruptions and variations in solar irradiance are also discussed…

      Ice free Arctic Ocean, an Early Holocene analogue

      Extensive systems of wave generated beach ridges along the North Greenland coasts show that these areas once saw seasonally open water. In addition to beach ridges, large amounts of striated boulders in and on the marine sediments from the same period also indicate that the ocean was open enough for ice bergs to drift along the shore and drop their loads. Presently the North Greenland coastline is permanently beleaguered by pack ice, and ice bergs are very rare and locked up in the sea ice. Predictions of the rapidly decreasing sea ice in the Arctic Ocean generally point to this area as the last to become ice free in summer. We therefore suggest that the occurrence of wave generated shores and abundant ice berg dropped boulders indicate that the Arctic Ocean was nearly free of sea ice in the summer at the time when they were formed. The beach ridges occur as isostatically raised “staircases”, and C14-dated curves for relative sea level change show that they were formed in the Early Holocene. A large set of samples of molluscs from beach ridges and marine sediments were collected in the summer of 2007, and are presently being dated to give a precise dating of the ice free interval. Preliminary results indicate that it fell within the interval from c. 8.5 to c. 6 ka – being progressively shorter from south to north. We therefore conclude that for a period in the Early Holocene, probably for a millenium or more, the Arctic Ocean was free of sea ice at least for shorter periods in the summer….

      A new approach for reconstructing glacier variability based on lake sediments recording input from more than one glacier

      …. A multi-proxy numerical analysis demonstrates that it is possible to distinguish a glacier component in the ~ 8000-yr-long record, based on distinct changes in grain size, geochemistry, and magnetic composition…. This signal is …independently tested through a mineral magnetic provenance analysis of catchment samples. Minimum glacier input is indicated between 6700–5700 cal yr BP, probably reflecting a situation when most glaciers in the catchment had melted away, whereas the highest glacier activity [growth] is observed around 600 and 200 cal yr BP. During the local Neoglacial interval (~ 4200 cal yr BP until present), five individual periods of significantly reduced glacier extent are identified at ~ 3400, 3000–2700, 2100–2000, 1700–1500, and ~ 900 cal yr BP….

      Nothing unusual is happening GRIFFY

      1965 Arctic Temperatures

      • Griff says:

        Except, as I have repeatedly told you, during the Eemian the orbital tilt of the earth warmed the pole in summer and low sea ice resulted.

        Now we see the lowest since the Eemian… so what caused that?

        • AndyG55 says:

          “Now we see the lowest since the Eemian’

          BULLSHIT !!! You are total and monumental LIAR.

          It was far lower during the first 3/4 of the Holocene.

          You are yet again, DENYING SCIENCE and LYING through your arse.

    • Gail Combs says:

      1972 Arctic Temperatures

    • Gail Combs says:

      Arctic Temperatures

    • Gail Combs says:

      1917 Arctic Temperatures.

      NOTE the blue line at the top of the graph is the MELT/FREEZE line and the Arctic is no where near melting.

    • Gail Combs says:

      What GRiffy continually ignores is the present weather patterns are ICE AGE WEATHER PATTERNS. Get a clue Griffy, it was CHICAGO, IL and BOSTON MA that were covered with a mile high glacier not Alaska.

      • Griff says:

        And there is absolutely no doubt it is exceptionally warm over the pole, which has a knock on effect on weather this winter and global climate.

        Are you saying there is no warmth at the pole? And that that has no effect?

  7. Steven Fraser says:

    Cool! The surface mass balance is now at the avg for the end of April, and within 50Gt of the max we had in 2012.

    I’ve been warching the storms go there for the past few weeks… lots of heat on its way to space, just like it always works.

    • Griff says:

      er no… the storms bring in warmer, moist air, preventing the heat from getting ginto space. And the snow insulates the ice, preventing bottom freezing.

      • Squidly says:

        “And the snow insulates the ice, preventing bottom freezing.”

        OMG! … You didn’t just say that, did you?

        • Sunsettommy says:

          He was corrected by an actual scientist in another blog,but still repeats his error here.

          I think we are dealing with a child who has serious learning difficulties.

          Griff, being a leftist warmist/alarmist bigot often have this problem.

        • Griff says:

          I did. Because that’s what happens.

          “Snow accumulation on top of sea ice insulates the sea ice and reduces ocean heat loss to the atmosphere, leading to reduced sea ice growth rates”

        • AndyG55 says:

          Yes sun….. we all know that griff has the mentality of a dead gnat and the learning ability of a toenail clipping.

          A Norwegian Blue would be correct more often.

          He has been totally brain-washed to the stage that all that is left in his rancid skull is putrid decaying sludge.

          • Griff says:

            That’s a well reasoned reply to a detailed piece of scientific research which proves snow cover acts to reduce ice growth… not!

          • AndyG55 says:

            Only response needed to you moronic LIES

            You have been caught LYING again and again and again.. and you just keep on doing it.

            Is it abject ignorance or wanton deceit?

          • AndyG55 says:

            nothing in that link except modelled GIGO !!

      • Sunsettommy says:

        No, Griff, that warm air is going upward to space.

        • Griff says:

          But with the air temps measured by buouys near the pole being at or above freezing over much of this winter, how can warmth leak into what’s already warm as fast?

          • Caleb says:

            Temperatures have not been at or above freezing at the Pole. Check out the DMI graphs and maps. The air keeps cooling as it surges north, and usually dips below freezing at the end of the open water in Barents Sea. The last time I saw winter temperatures touch freezing near the Pole was around Christmas two years ago, and that was only for two hours.

            If you take the time to watch you will see how quickly an Atlantic air mass is chilled, once it is transported up there. I would guess they cool at between two and five degrees Celsius each day, depending on whether there is cloud cover or not.

            Cloud cover may slow cooling, but it does not stop it. A rainy day gets cooler as it becomes a rainy night. And, at the Pole, the night lasts for months.

            A meridional pattern loses more heat than a zonal pattern.

          • AndyG55 says:

            “A meridional pattern loses more heat than a zonal pattern.”

            And that is the part which may actually be a major problem over the next several years.

            The very last thing the Earth needs is an extended cooling period.

      • Gail Combs says:

        “….the storms bring in warmer, moist air, preventing the heat from getting ginto space….”

        GRIFFY! OMG! … You didn’t just say that, did you?</b.

        I suggest you read Rider on the Storm

        Then explain to us WHY Lt Col Rankin spent 40 minutes not only heading down but HEADING UP while trying to parachute through that ‘warmer moist air’

        In the summer of 1959, a pair of F-8 Crusader combat jets were on a routine flight to Beaufort, North Carolina…

        Unable to restart his engine, and struggling to keep his craft from entering a near-supersonic nose dive, Rankin grasped the two emergency eject handles… He was also wary of the ominous gray soup of a storm that lurked below; but having previously experienced a bail out amidst enemy fire in Korea, a bit of inclement weather didn’t seem all that off-putting…

        It was then that he felt a sharp and familiar upward tug on his harness—his parachute had deployed….

        Unfortunately for the impaired pilot, he was nowhere near the 10,000 foot altitude he expected. Strong updrafts in the cell had decreased his terminal velocity substantially, and the volatile storm had triggered his barometric parachute switch prematurely. Bill Rankin was still far from the earth, and he was now dangling helplessly in the belly of an oblivious monstrosity….

        the storm’s capricious winds pressed Rankin downward until he encountered the powerful updrafts.. which dragged him and his chute thousands of feet back up into the storm. This dangerous effect is familiar to paragliding enthusiasts, who unaffectionately refer to it as cloud suck….

        …The time was 6:40pm. Bill’s brutalized body had spent around forty minutes bobbing around the area of atmosphere which mountaineers refer to unfondly as the Death Zone….

        Well Griffy, where is your explanation???

        • Colorado Wellington says:

          Gail, physics was not Ms Griff’s favorite. She’d better be careful around her gas and electric appliances.

          • Gail Combs says:

            Colorado, that is why she is so much in favor of 7th century politics. It does not out strip her intelligence.

        • Griff says:

          If there is a warm, moist mass of air over the pole, the polar ocean does not lose as much heat, does it? And if there are no clear skies, then heat is not lost to space, is it?

          • AndyG55 says:

            Why are you constantly parading your TOTAL and ABJECT IGNORANCE. ???

            It really is getting past PATHETIC.

            Of course energy still lost to space, you moronic twit !!!

            H2O radiates upwards as well as downwards

            And the ONLY way H2O can get to be clouds is because it has already cooled the surface.

            PLEASE…. go back to primary school and actually ATTEND this time. !!!

          • David A says:

            …not the same as saying
            .”the storms bring in warmer, moist air, preventing the heat from getting ginto space….”

  8. Rick Will says:

    This chart really shows how much variation there has been in global sea ice since the modern records began:

      • AndyG55 says:

        Jimbo, the CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER rants again.

        DENIES that the world is only a small amount above the COLDEST period in the last 10,000 years.

        He KNOWS that 1979 was an EXTREME sea ice year, but LIES by omission as always.


        And still the utterly pathetic lonelimess as he tries in vain to get people to visit his sewer of a CON web site

      • AndyG55 says:

        WOW, nearly 14 MILLION km² of sea ice..

        That is ONE HECK OF A LOT of sea ice. !!

      • Rick Will says:

        The chart you offer is one of those elevated scale charts that the are used to exaggerate variation. There are two reasons to use this type of chart (a) the proponent wants to exaggerate variation for dramatic effect or (b) they are gullible enough to regurgitate the nonsense portrayed by exaggerating reality.

        The chart I offered simply presents the facts without exaggeration. It also has total global sea ice not just the bit that happens to be lower a few months ago than what it was in those months over previous years. That sort of variation is known as weather. It has nothing to do with climate. If you want climate trends you need to go back over decades and try to eliminate the noise that is weather.

        You can appreciate from the chart I made that the year-to-year variation in global sea ice has no apparent trend to the average over the last 35 years. Even 35 years is too short a period to assess a climate trend anyhow.

      • AndyOz says:

        Who starts a y-axis at 12?
        Unless you want to emphasise something that is irrelevant.

        Greenland has accumulated 500Gt of glacial ice this year.
        Alarmists are crying about 2 Gt of highly variable sea ice.
        Take a bex & have a lie down.

  9. Griff says:

    “Monday, February 13, 2017, 10:28 AM – Conditions heated up in the Arctic, yet again, last week, as two storms swept up from the North Atlantic to cause temperatures near the North Pole to spike by nearly 30oC over just a few days. ”

    “Current sea ice extent in the Arctic is 13.9 million square kilometres – 286,000 sq km lower than it was just one year ago, which was the previous lowest extent on record, and nearly 1.4 million sq km lower than the 1981-2010 average.
    The Barents Sea – the region of the Arctic Ocean to the north of Europe – is already where the ice extent is suffering most this year, so this will only add to the problem there.”

    “With the combination of strong winds from this North Atlantic storm and the temperatures driving up to around the melting point, rate of increase in Arctic sea ice extent flattened out last week – meaning there was little to no growth seen – and the extent even decreased as these storms passed, as the winds piled the ice up onto itself in the Barents Sea and the heat picked away at the edges of the ice. Given that this is the middle of the winter, when sea ice should be growing, fairly consistently, towards its yearly maximum, seeing the rate of growth go negative is not a good sign.
    Combined with what’s already happening in the Arctic so far this winter, we may be looking at a new lowest winter maximum for sea ice extent, and it also puts us on the path towards yet another lowest annual sea ice extent, after 2016 set a new record.”

    (apologies: posted first on wrong page, so copying here)

    • AndyG55 says:

      DENYING CLIMATE CHANGE history yet again, hey griff.

      You have been shown many papers that show the first 3/4 of the Holocene had FAR LESS Arctic sea ice.. but you just keep DENYING, and DENYING.

      You and Jimbo are manic CLIMATE CHANGE DENIERS.

    • gator69 says:

      Denying resources to millions, for the love of ice.

  10. AndyOz says:

    Strange how Climate Alarmists have the idea that -30C is somehow “50 degrees above average”

    Totally bizarre.
    Is red/green colour blindness a thing with climate alarmism?

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