Linear Thinking

The Berkeley Earth lead “scientist” didn’t like me using actual data, so he blocked me.

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36 Responses to Linear Thinking

  1. Josh says:

    Robert Rhode is not aware the longest running station in world , the English CET station, active since 1650 has shown only sloght warming and this warming mainly during winter?

    • Mr GrimNasty says:

      It’s not actually as good as it sounds. It’s a triangle of stations, not consistently the same ones, a lot of the earlier (esp) data is probably ‘cobbled together’, there have been close by and surrounding land developement changes, a switch to electronic instruments, and there has been an adjustment for UHI since the 70s, and it’s the belief among many that the current compensation is inadequate.

      So it’s far from being some totally reliable long term pristine data.

      • Josh says:

        You could make the same argument for all stations existing before 1850 though since we did not have electronics / massive urbanization.

        • Mr GrimNasty says:

          Yes, there are very few, maybe a handful, of reliable long term records in existence, and they will probably be in private hands or non-climate/government institutions – hence my interest in what the full Monastry records show on the other thread – as it is free from all these problems.

          The CET is nothing special, perhaps worse in some ways, and given false reverance IMO.

          • Samuel Prentice says:

            And until the electronic/digital age, all of CET’s temperatures were reported in whole numbers. And there is no quality control for observer error where they made the decision to round up or down the observed temperature to that whole number.

            Now, temperature data is reported to the hundredths or even thousandths despite the fact that the instruments displaying the temperature lack those levels of precision.

    • Robertv says:

      We are just back from Scotland . We have been there for 2 weeks. We had wind, rain (every day) and for us it was cold which was great because we knew in Barcelona it was hot and moisty. So we had the typical winter weather for Barcelona exept for the rain.

      • arn says:

        So the sommer in Scotland was the rainiest and coldest winter you have ever experienced!? :)proove for global cooling i’d say

      • richard verney says:

        On the Costa Blanca, the weather has been about 2 degC cooler than usual, all year.

        FYI, the Costa Blanca (is a coastal region) lies about 400 to 600 km away from Barcelona, and lies to the South.

  2. gregole says:

    Berzerkly Earth lost me when shortly after they launched and I realized they already had warming on their mind. They simply adjusted, homogenized, quality-controlled until they had a temperature record that perfectly matched their per-conceived notion of a planet being heated by M@nn-made CO2.

    They are a waste of time.

  3. Martin says:

    What had gone to I cannot believe it. Linear thinking in leading scientists that cannot be a real scientist only a mad scientist.

    What has to happen to make this global warming scam stop before they tax our asses big time? Civil war?

    In Netherlands we get it bad when property owners have to pay app. 50000 Euro to install an alternative installation to replace natural gass for energy. Most houses have gass for cooking and heating. This might happen when the new climate law is accepted.

    • Robertv says:

      Maybe change the people that govern The Netherlands would be an option and leave the EU dictator ship.

      • The Netherlands do have a Libertarian Party. All Dutchmen have to do is turn off the telescreen and vote with integrity instead of altruism. Ecological National Socialism relies on the initiation of force and fear of competition to secure the sanction of its victims.

        • Martin says:

          I’m pretty confident the people are going to vote against the bullshit rhetorica of the A.G.W. when they know how much they have to pay for it per house hold.

  4. Ari Saltiel says:

    US exporting hot days to Europe. Nice.

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    • Thanks for the Portugal data.

      • spike55 says:

        Quiet remarkable, isn’t it.

        Totally untampered by the climate scammers, and it shows the late 1970s as the coldest period since 1860, (in Portugal anyway)

        Also shows that current temperature is LESS THAN the 1940’s by a long shot, and cooler than 1860

        And what could be more trustworthy, or more important, than the grape harvest :-)

  9. Mark says:

    It’s handy to start the data in 1850 seeing as 1846 contained the warmest June on record easily beating 1976.

    • Gator says:

      Sorry Mark, but alarmists generally do not recognize pre-1979 data, as they tend to be New Earthers who believe the planet has a normal temperature.

  10. Walter J says:

    Adjustments are necessary. Who is Goddard and why is he touting raw temperatures?

    • tonyheller says:

      Who is Walter, and why is he so utterly clueless?

    • Gator says:

      Where would totalitarian leftists be without unthinking sheep? Be a useful idiot Mark, it suits you, like wool.

    • Colorado Wellington says:

      You don’t really understand what is discussed in this post, do you, Walter?

      That’s ok. We know you were promised there would be no math.

      Now, in the next couple of years you my have a day when you feel like you could master anything. Don’t waste that opportunity and look up “linear”. It’s an incredibly complicated concept but you only have to remember the CliffsNotes explanation of what it is not:

      “Linear has nothing to do with raw data.”

      But you did understand when you were told that temperature adjustments are necessary. Good. They didn’t tell you that without cooling the past and warming the present there would be no temperature rise.

      That’s ok. Now say “BAA!”.

      We are all looking forward to you next contribution.

    • richard verney says:

      Why is any adjustment needed on properly collected data?

      Adjustment is recognition that the data is not fit for purpose, due to lack of proper quality control in the collection and use of the data.

      The mistake which GISS/BEST etc have made is the failure to audit all the stations and to use only those stations that pass location, sampling, data collection. data handling requirements. All other station data should not be used.

      One should work with the cream, not with the crud. Quite simply it is impossible by the use of data adjustment to make a silk purse out of a pig’s ear.

  11. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Europe is of course heavily affected by the AMO cycle.

    The rise from 1975 in his graph perfectly follows the AMO rise in that time.

    But there is no similar peak in the 1940s.

    Which has been edited out. Remember the “remove the blip” Climategate email?

    Dr Rohde might wish to explain this anomaly.

  12. spren says:

    Until the electronic/digital age, observed temperatures were reported in whole numbers. Now these temperatures are reported to the hundredths or even thousandths despite the inability of the temperature devices to report to that level of precision.

    An earlier poster above referred to the temperature record of CET, the longest reported temperature record in existence. We certainly can appreciate the overall trends displayed by this record, but it is apples and oranges compared to the fabrication of the records on display in recent times.

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