New York Times Says Snow Is A Thing Of The Past

Posted on February 12, 2014 by Tony Heller

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The End of Snow? – NYTimes.com

Possibly the stupidest article printed by any newspaper in history.

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64 Responses to New York Times Says Snow Is A Thing Of The Past

  1. Gunny G says:
    February 12, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    Reblogged this on BLOGGING BAD ~ DICK.G: AMERICAN ! and commented:
    GUNNYG!!!!!!

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  3. Ben Davidson says:
    February 12, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Steven, I am gathering that you like your privacy. Perhaps you ARE just doing this for fun, in which case we’ll all continue to enjoy. However, cooperation is cooperation and it cannot hurt.

    -Extending the hand, again, but not for the last time,
    Ben Davidson

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  4. wwlee4411 says:
    February 12, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Reblogged this on wwlee4411 and commented:
    Where did they come up with this idea? Global Warming?

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  5. matayaya says:
    February 12, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    You should be commended for providing access to well researched article. You call it stupid because you can look out the window and see snow, belying the title of the article “The End of Snow”. I’m sure you got a fresh new long list of post of places where it is snowing. Like Drudge Report, the bumper sticker headline is the story, certainly not the article. Everyone knows that January and February in the U.S. have been cold and snowy. Long term climate trends showing less snow are irrelevant. It would be interesting to poll the commenters on this post who actually read the article. It won’t matter, it’s just more fraud.

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    • Stark Dickflüssig says:
      February 12, 2014 at 9:50 pm

      Long term climate trends showing less snow are irrelevant.

      Where are those?

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      • matayaya says:
        February 12, 2014 at 10:45 pm

        Steve, where could I find the full context of that graph?

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        • Hugh K says:
          February 12, 2014 at 10:57 pm

          In the graph.
          You seem like a suitable candidate – Will you contribute to my ‘Healing the Planet Anti-carbon Campaign’ to stop global warming? If so, please advise and I will send you an address to send your money order. Thanks in advance for your financial sacrifice to save the planet!

        • suyts says:
          February 12, 2014 at 11:08 pm

          Matayaya, you, like many people are not paying attention and simply taking the lunatics at their word ….. Here’s the last 30 year trends broken down by seasons …. http://suyts.wordpress.com/2014/02/09/another-uninformed-writer-who-doesnt-read-suyts-end-of-snow/

          We don’t have less snow, we have nearly exactly the same as 30 years ago. All we’re seeing is a cycle of the seasons, as more snow is happening in Fall and Winter, and less in the Spring. I can provide more details if you wish, but, then, you’d have to confront the notions you hold.

    • Psalmon says:
      February 13, 2014 at 12:00 am

      I disagree. I can’t look out my windows. The snow is so high this year, it’s over the tops of my windows. I can’t wait until I can look out of my windows.

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    • Chuck says:
      February 13, 2014 at 7:56 pm

      Matayaya,

      If our long term computer models are “dead on balls accurate” can we apply their mathematical prowess to our short term models? I’d really like to know what my weather will be next week.

      Here is a the scientific forecast discussion from wunderground.

      “Models indicate that a weak shortwave will cross Colorado Sunday
      night. Though it will remain dry over nm…downsloping winds will
      keep temperatures warm overnight across the plains. Otherwise…
      continued zonal flow will continue through Tuesday with bouts of
      breeziness. Models diverge starting Wednesday with the strength and
      timing of the next potential upper level trough. Ec is more bullish
      and brings a shortwave across nm…with some precipitation associated with
      it. GFS shows a much broader wave with no precipitation. Oddly…though
      models diverge middle week…they both show a wave impacting nm next
      Friday. Stay tuned.”

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    • Jimbo says:
      February 15, 2014 at 11:12 pm

      Winter snowfall extent in the Northern Hemisphere trending up since 1967.
      http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_seasonal.php?ui_set=nhland&ui_season=1

      Winter snowfall extent in North America trending up since 1967.
      http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_seasonal.php?ui_set=namgnld&ui_season=1

      Rutgers online graphics start in 1967 and recent years show nothing unusual.

      What was your point again?

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      • matayaya says:
        February 22, 2014 at 8:20 pm

        The point of the NY Times article was the long term trend of snow and ice, not just the past 6 weeks. That long term trend shows significant, steady decrease in snow packs across the world. Six weeks of snow and ice on .4 percent of the globe hardly disproves the long term trend. The more reliable indicator would be NOAA’s recent posting of global temperatures for January 2014 showing them to be the 4th warmest on record. Of course that doesn’t mean anything to you if you buy in to the conspiracy theory that the world’s leading climate scientist lie about the data.

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        • Shazaam says:
          February 22, 2014 at 10:05 pm

          And don’t forget!!

          If you like your computer generated long term climate model results, you can keep your computer generated long term climate model results!!!

          Why would those paragons of virtue and scientific inquest known as climatologists follow the lead of the current occupant of the Whitehouse when it comes to truth or accuracy???

          Any other conclusion than the one promoted by the Whitehouse is a racist conspiracy theory!!!

        • matayaya says:
          February 23, 2014 at 5:04 am

          Seeing the world as black and white is the same as seeing the world thru conspiracy theories.

  7. EW3 says:
    February 12, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    If I remember correctly it was the NYTs that predicted the end of famine in the Ukraine.

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  9. glenncz says:
    February 12, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    The NY Times article is based on a study. What’s so hilarious is that the study points how if we don’t solve this global warming then skier visits are going down and goes on about how important that it is our economy. The MORONS don’t realize if the global warming theory is correct, the ONLY way to solve this is to make everyone so poor that they couldn’t even possibly consider thinking about spending $150/day (actually more with equip etc) or 2K on a ski vacation! They don’t get it whatsoever that just changing a few light bulbs or putting up a couple thousand wind turbines or miles of solar farms will do very little to cut carbon emissions and it will absolutely nothing to stop the very poor people in other countries who don’t even have a car to drive to a ski resort but want some of the prosperity that we have. It’s all Stupid, Stupid, Stupid!!!!

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    • matayaya says:
      February 12, 2014 at 10:43 pm

      glennez, your house probably won’t burn down either but you have fire insurance.

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      • Hugh K says:
        February 12, 2014 at 10:59 pm

        Spot on – So, will you contribute to my ‘Healing the Planet Anti-carbon Campaign’ to stop global warming? If so, please advise and I will send you an address to send your money order. Thanks in advance for your financial sacrifice to save the planet!

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      • glenncz says:
        February 12, 2014 at 11:03 pm

        No, there is no such thing as “insurance”. The only insurance is to make us all poor so we couldn’t even possibly consider going skiing. We probably have a couple ten thousand wind turbines up, millions of acres of ethanol, many square miles of solar, expensive light bulbs – could you please tell me has that helped “the problem”?? You live in a fantasy world. Actually many fantasy worlds of many ignorances of all of this. The cycles, the trickery, the deceipt, natural factors, the enormous energy use that gives us the opportunity to use these computers, live in a nice house, the entire society is built on energy and prosperity. And all of that prosperity is linked to Carbon = CO2. Even if you are poor. I serve the poor every day in my business, and they are not anywhere close to being truly poor. The STUPIDITY and inability to accept basic fundamental math is outstanding in our society. Why? POLITICS!!!! You pick your story and you stick to it. Do you know we’ve had the snowiest winters in HISTORY (blah blah blah – history is only 30 yrs long) in the past 5 years in the N. Hemisphere?

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        • glenncz says:
          February 12, 2014 at 11:05 pm

          And to add to that. EVERY SINGLE GREEN IDEA WASTES ENERGY (YES I’m SHOUTING!!!). Every wind turbine, solar panel, enthanol gallon, silly light bulb, just about every single green idea uses more energy and creates more CO2 than so called traditional sources. They ALL cost more. And that’s just fine with the Greens, because they want us all to be POOR!!!!

      • Gail Combs says:
        February 12, 2014 at 11:34 pm

        I rather have my house burn down than live in the 1700s and that is exactly what reducing CO2 by 83% will do!

        The average energy use for the USA is 335.9 million BTUs per person. (wwwDOT)nuicc.info/?page_id=1467

        The U.S. in 1800 had a per-capita energy consumption of about 90 million Btu. (wwwDOT)bu.edu/pardee/files/2010/11/12-PP-Nov2010.pdf

        Farmers made up about 90% of labor force  in 1790.
        Farmers made up only 2.6% in 1990

        About 250-300 labor-hours required to produce 100 bushels (5 acres) of wheat with walking plow, brush harrow, hand broadcast of seed, sickle, and flail in 1830. (Steel plows were later BTW)

        In 1987 – 2-3/4 labor-hours required to produce 100 bushels (3 acres) but that takes lots of oil.

        1810-30 saw the transfer of “manufacturing” from the farm and home to the shop and factory. It wasn’t until the 1840?s that we saw factory made farm machinery, labor saving devices and chemical fertilizers became at all common. It was in the 1860?s that kerosene lamps became popular.
        Also up until the 1850?s dung and wood were the major source of energy. http://dieoff.org/page199_files/image002.gif

        For an 83% reduction like Obama wants your talking 17% of the current usage or 57.1 million BTUs per person. In other words for the USA to use onlyabout 2/3 the energy per person that was used in 1800. SO we must abandon ALL factories and 90% of the population must return to subsistence farming WITHOUT animals because animals produce CO2.

        This is what you want and I am NOT interested!

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      • Stark Dickflüssig says:
        February 13, 2014 at 12:20 am

        Matayoyo believes that “carbon” is killing the world, yet she still uses electricity. I mean, seriously: turn off your computer. Go live the lifestyle that you claim will fix everything, every inch of it: no plastics, no food delivered by anything but ox-cart or bicycle, no concrete, no lumber harvested with chainsaws, no tires made in Taiwan, no electricity made by coal or gas, no solar panels shipped over on container ships, none of it.

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      • henrythethird says:
        February 13, 2014 at 2:30 am

        And my insurance rates are based in risk. If I do things that improve my fire safety (fire detectors, asbestos shingles, clear brush away etc), that lowers my risk, and my rates.

        But if my neighbors continue to purposely pile up dried brush against their house, it raises the risk for the entire neighborhood.

        Even if the US could magically drop their CO2 use to zero (which should lower the GLOBAL risk of CAGW), it wouldn’t matter as long as my neighbors (China and India) pile it up faster than ever.

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    • Henry says:
      February 13, 2014 at 4:19 am

      this is absolutely right.

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  10. Ben Vorlich says:
    February 12, 2014 at 10:45 pm

    Snow was going to be a rare event in the UK. Latest ski reports.
    Glen Coe
    Soft snow everywhere, runs basically irrelevant as you can ski anywhere. Possible to ski to car park.

    For the very latest snow updates check out our new Twitter feed at http://www.twitter.com/glencoemountain

    Cairngorm
    Amazing cover from mid-station up, the Gunbarrel is completely full, so much snow that snow as having to be removed from under the Cas T-bar upline. Even a good portion of the new taller snow fences are buried.

    Glen Shee
    Last Update 22.23hrs on Wednesday 12th Feb 2014
    Ongoing snow has blanketed the entire ski area with too much in places. Good skiing/boarding over the entire area with fresh snow on a packed base or, if you prefer, freeriding over the snow field that is Glenshee.

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  11. Joseph Dooley says:
    February 12, 2014 at 10:53 pm

    As far for the Western part of the country, it will lose an estimated 25 to 100 percent of its snowpack by 2100 if greenhouse gas emissions are not curtailed — reducing the snowpack in Park City, Utah, to zero and relegating skiing to the top quarter of Ajax Mountain in Aspen.

    25 – 100%. Climate science precision right there.

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    • glenncz says:
      February 12, 2014 at 11:07 pm

      Right, and Breckenridge had almost 300 inches of global warming so far this year, and they have about 1/3rd of the snow year yet to go. I can’t bear this STUPID world I live in anymore!

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    • Stark Dickflüssig says:
      February 12, 2014 at 11:37 pm

      Man, I hope his error bars are on the order of 200% of his stated range, or else he’s still going to end up wrong.

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    • Gail Combs says:
      February 13, 2014 at 12:02 am

      And if certain Geologists are correct (and CO2 is not a magic gas) Glacial inception already occurred probably during the Little Ice Age.

      The key phrase is “…Thus, glacial inception occurred ~3 kyr before the onset of significant bipolar-seesaw variability…” translated that means the melting of the Arctic ice and the increase in Antarctic ice comes 3,000 yrs AFTER the transition.

      Can we predict the duration of an interglacial?

      …thus, the first major reactivation of the bipolar seesaw would probably constitute an indication that the transition to a glacial state had already taken place….

      …“With respect to the end of interglacials, the MIS 5e– 5d transition represents the only relevant period with direct sea-level determinations and precise chronologies that allow us to infer a sequence of events around the time of glacial inception…

      …Thus, glacial inception occurred ~3 kyr before the onset of significant bipolar-seesaw variability…

      …Comparison [of the Holocene] with MIS 19c, a close astronomical analogue characterized by an equally weak summer insolation minimum (474Wm?2) and a smaller overall decrease from maximum summer solstice insolation values, suggests that glacial inception is possible despite the subdued insolation forcing, if CO2 concentrations were 240±5 ppmv (Tzedakis et al., 2012).”

      Another earlier paper:

      Lesson from the past: present insolation minimum holds potential for glacial inception

      ….Because the intensities of the 397 ka BP and present insolation minima are very similar, we conclude that under natural boundary conditions the present insolation minimum holds the potential to terminate the Holocene interglacial. Our findings support the Ruddiman hypothesis [Ruddiman, W., 2003. The Anthropogenic Greenhouse Era began thousands of years ago. Climate Change 61, 261–293], which proposes that early anthropogenic greenhouse gas emission prevented the inception of a glacial that would otherwise already have started….
      http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379107002715

      And if other scientists are correct what saved our Ar$e was an energetic sun.

      Unusual activity of the Sun during recent decades compared to the previous 11,000 years ?
      S. K. Solanki1, I. G. Usoskin2, B. Kromer3, M. Schussler1 & J. Beer4

      According to our reconstruction, the level of solar activity during the past 70 years is exceptional, and the previous period of equally high activity occurred more than 8,000 years ago. We find that during the past 11,400 years the Sun spent only of the order of 10% of the time at a similarly high level of magnetic activity and almost all of the earlier high-activity periods were shorter than the present episode.
      cc(DOT)oulu.fi/~usoskin/personal/nature02995.pdf

      Doubling Sun’s Coronal Magnetic Field in Last 100 years
      (wwwDOT)nature.com/nature/journal/v399/n6735/abs/399437a0.html
      M. Lockwood1, R. Stamper1 & M. N. Wild1

      Magnetic reconnection—the merging of oppositely directed magnetic fields—between the interplanetary field and the Earth’s magnetic field allows energy from the solar wind to enter the near-Earth environment. The Sun’s properties, such as its luminosity, are related to its magnetic field, although the connections are still not well understood3,4. Moreover, changes in the heliospheric magnetic field have been linked with changes in total cloud cover over the Earth, which may influence global climate5. Here we show that measurements of the near-Earth interplanetary magnetic field reveal that the total magnetic flux leaving the Sun has risen by a factor of 1.4 since 1964: surrogate measurements of the interplanetary magnetic field indicate that the increase since 1901 has been by a factor of 2.3.….

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      • phodges says:
        February 13, 2014 at 2:30 am

        Another key, is that the Little Ice Age was coined to describe the Neo-Glaciation of the Sierra Nevada….Glaciers originating only in the last 700 years. Most are still here, so technically we are still in the Neo-Glaciation…

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        • glenncz says:
          February 13, 2014 at 12:44 pm

          The way things look outside right now, I am hoping I have glacier damage insurance for my house!

        • Gail Combs says:
          February 13, 2014 at 10:56 pm

          That is the same for glaciers in Norway. Norway Experiencing Greatest Glacial Activity in the past 1,000 year (Discussion of a new paper)

          And

          Temperature and precipitation history of the Arctic 2010
          Miller et al
          Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research and Department of Geological Sciences, University of Colorado, USA et al

          …. Solar energy reached a summer maximum (9% higher than at present) ~11 ka ago and has been decreasing since then, primarily in response to the precession of the equinoxes. The extra energy elevated early Holocene summer temperatures throughout the Arctic 1-3°C above 20th century averages, enough to completely melt many small glaciers throughout the Arctic, although the Greenland Ice Sheet was only slightly smaller than at present. Early Holocene summer sea ice limits were substantially smaller than their 20th century average, and the flow of Atlantic water into the Arctic Ocean was substantially greater. As summer solar energy decreased in the second half of the Holocene, glaciers re-established or advanced, sea ice expanded…

    • Gail Combs says:
      February 13, 2014 at 12:21 am

      The solar insolation for 21 June at 65? N and CO2 for termination of several interglacials from the paper with the link:

      MIS 7e – insolation = 463 W m?2, CO2 = 256 ppmv
      MIS 11c – insolation = 466 W m?2, CO2 = 259-265 ppmv
      MIS 13a – insolation = 500 W m?2, CO2 = 225 ppmv
      MIS 15a – insolation = 480 W m?2, CO2 = 240 ppmv
      MIS 17 – insolation = 477 W m?2, CO2 = 240 ppmv

      Current values are insolation = 479 and CO2 = 390 ppmv.

      Considering the Ice Core CO2 numbers were as ‘Adjusted’ as the current temperature record, that does not give me the warm fuzzies.

      …It was believed that snow accumulating on ice sheets would preserve the contemporaneous atmosphere trapped between snowflakes during snowfalls, so that the CO2 content of air inclusions in cores from ice sheets should reveal paleoatmospheric CO2 levels. Jaworowski et al. (1992 b) compiled all such CO2 data available, finding that CO2 levels ranged from 140 to 7,400 ppmv. However, such paleoatmospheric CO2 levels published after 1985 were never reported to be higher than 330 ppmv. Analyses reported in 1982 (Neftel at al., 1982) from the more than 2,000 m deep Byrd ice core (Antarctica), showing unsystematic values from about 190 to 420 ppmv, were falsely “filtered” when the alleged same data showed a rising trend from about 190 ppmv at 35,000 years ago to about 290 ppmv (Callendar’s pre-industrial baseline) at 4,000 years ago when re-reported in 1988 (Neftel et al., 1988); shown by Jaworowski et al. (1992 b) in their Fig. 5….

      http://www.co2web.info/ESEF3VO2.htm

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      • matayaya says:
        February 14, 2014 at 10:03 pm

        Gail combs, Over the last 35 years the sun has shown a slight cooling trend. However global temperatures have been increasing. Since the sun and climate are going in opposite directions, the sun cannot be the cause of recent global warming.
        The only way to blame the sun for the current rise in temperatures is by cherry picking the data. This is done by showing only past periods when sun and climate move together and ignoring the last few decades when the two are moving in opposite direction.

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        • Gail Combs says:
          February 15, 2014 at 1:24 am

          Gail combs, Over the last 35 years the sun has shown a slight cooling trend.

          Where the heck did you get that information?

          Cycle 23 (beginning in May 1996 and ending in January 2008) was not as strong as Cycle 22 and cycle 24 has been very weak but do remember the oceans act as a giant hot watter bottle so you are not going to see a major change so much in the temperature as in the weather patterns.
          NATURE Vol. 399, 3 June 1999. Pages 437-439 A Doubling of the Sun’s Coronal Magnetic Field during the Last 100 Years The magnetic flux in the solar corona has risen by 40% since 1964 and by a factor of 2.3 since 1901. (This has a good graph)

          NASA: Study Finds Increasing Solar Trend That Can Change Climate
          (wwwDOT)nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/solar_trend_change_climate.html

          Since the late 1970s, the amount of solar radiation the sun emits, during times of quiet sunspot activity, has increased by nearly .05 percent per decade, according to a NASA funded study.

          “This trend is important because, if sustained over many decades, it could cause significant climate change,” said Richard Willson, a researcher affiliated with NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Columbia University’s Earth Institute, New York. He is the lead author of the study recently published in Geophysical Research Letters. “Historical records of solar activity indicate that solar radiation has been increasing since the late 19th century. If a trend, comparable to the one found in this study, persisted throughout the 20th century, it would have provided a significant component of the global warming…

          Sun’s Activity Increased in Past Century, Study Confirms
          (wwwDOT)space.com/2942-sun-activity-increased-century-study-confirms.html

          The energy output from the Sun has increased significantly during the 20th century, according to a new study.

          Many studies have attempted to determine whether there is an upward trend in the average magnitude of sunspots and solar flares over time, but few firm conclusions have been reached.

          Now, an international team of researchers led by Ilya Usoskin of the Sodankylä Geophysical Observatory at the University of Oulu, Finland, may have the answer. They examined meteorites that had fallen to Earth over the past 240 years. By analyzing the amount of titanium 44, a radioactive isotope, the team found a significant increase in the Sun’s radioactive output during the 20th century.

          Over the past few decades, however, they found the solar activity has stabilized at this higher-than-historic level….

          Regional atmospheric circulation shifts induced by a grand solar minimum
          (wwwDOT)nature.com/ngeo/journal/v5/n6/abs/ngeo1460.html

          Large changes in solar ultraviolet radiation can indirectly affect climate1 by inducing atmospheric changes. Specifically, it has been suggested that centennial-scale climate variability during the Holocene epoch was controlled by the Sun2, 3. ….Here we analyse annually laminated sediments of Lake Meerfelder Maar, Germany, to derive variations in wind strength and the rate of 10Be accumulation, a proxy for solar activity, from 3,300 to 2,000 years before present. We find a sharp increase in windiness and cosmogenic 10Be deposition 2,759? ±? 39 varve years before present and a reduction in both entities 199? ±? 9 annual layers later. We infer that the atmospheric circulation reacted abruptly and in phase with the solar minimum. A shift in atmospheric circulation in response to changes in solar activity is broadly consistent with atmospheric circulation patterns in long-term climate model simulations, and in reanalysis data that assimilate observations from recent solar minima into a climate model. We conclude that changes in atmospheric circulation amplified the solar signal and caused abrupt climate change about 2,800 years ago, coincident with a grand solar minimum.

          Bicentennial Decrease of the Total Solar Irradiance Leads to Unbalanced Thermal Budget of the Earth and the Little Ice Age 2012
          ccsenet(DOT)org/journal/index.php/apr/article/view/14754

          Temporal changes in the power of the longwave radiation of the system Earth-atmosphere emitted to space always lag behind changes in the power of absorbed solar radiation due to slow change of its enthalpy. That is why the debit and credit parts of the average annual energy budget of the terrestrial globe with its air and water envelope are practically always in an unbalanced state… From early 90s we observe bicentennial decrease in both the TSI and the portion of its energy absorbed by the Earth. The Earth as a planet will henceforward have negative balance in the energy budget which will result in the temperature drop in approximately 2014. Due to increase of albedo and decrease of the greenhouse gases atmospheric concentration the absorbed portion of solar energy and the influence of the greenhouse effect will additionally decline. The influence of the consecutive chain of feedback effects which can lead to additional drop of temperature will surpass the influence of the TSI decrease.

          Here is the albedo (cloud cover etc) from the Earthshine Project: GRAPH It shows the change ~1997 at the beginning of Cycle 23 and when the super El Nino occurred.

          A correlation of mean period of MJO indices and 11-yr solar variation
          (wwwDOT)sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364682612000302

          …we test whether the ?11-yr (Schwabe) cycle of solar activity could be reflected in the spectral features of [Madden–Julian Oscillation] MJO indices: namely, we study the evolution of MJO mean period within different period ranges and compare these with the evolution of solar activity. We focus on solar proxies best linked to UV emission and cosmic rays… A clear solar signature in MJO spectral properties is indeed found and shown to be both statistically significant and robust. UV proxies are found to be better correlated with MJO mean period than GCR, thus supporting rather the ozone mechanism of solar impact on MJO. The overall correlation with solar activity is found to be stronger in the Indian Ocean. Long periods (e.g. 50–80 day) are better correlated with solar activity than shorter periods (e.g. 30–60 day). A marked change in the relationship between MJO mean period and solar activity takes place in the declining phase of solar cycle 23, adding to its unusual character.

          NOTE: the declining phase of Cycle 23 is when the sun changed character leading to prediction of a weak cycle 24.

          The Holocene Asian Monsoon: Links to Solar Changes and North Atlantic Climate
          (wwwDOT)sciencemag.org/content/308/5723/854.abstract

          A 5-year-resolution absolute-dated oxygen isotope record from Dongge Cave, southern China, provides a continuous history of the Asian monsoon over the past 9000 years. Although the record broadly follows summer insolation, it is punctuated by eight weak monsoon events lasting ?1 to 5 centuries. One correlates with the “8200-year” event, another with the collapse of the Chinese Neolithic culture, and most with North Atlantic ice-rafting events. Cross-correlation of the decadal- to centennial-scale monsoon record with the atmospheric carbon-14 record shows that some, but not all, of the monsoon variability at these frequencies results from changes in solar output.

          Influence of solar activity on breaching, overflowing and course-shifting events of the Lower Yellow River in the late Holocene
          hol(DOT))sagepub.com/content/23/5/656.abstract

          The Lower Yellow River (LYR) has been characterized as a frequently breaching, overflowing and shifting river in historical periods….. Results showed that 75.5% of the LYR CSEs and 61.7% of the LYR BOEs occurred in sunspot number decline phases of 11 yr solar cycles, suggesting that the LYR changed more frequently during the sunspot number decline phases. The underlying mechanism of this phenomenon was further interpreted as the high correlation between sunspot decline phases and heavy rainfall in the middle reaches of Yellow River (MYR). Five of the six heavy rainfall years over the last 60 years and 14 of the 16 well-known heavy rainfall records from 132 BC to AD 1933 in the MYR occurred in sunspot decline phases…

    • matayaya says:
      February 14, 2014 at 9:56 pm

      Joseph Dooley, More nit picking, ok, how about just insert “a lot”.

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      • Stark Dickflüssig says:
        February 15, 2014 at 1:47 am

        So, if there’s at least one year with more than 75% of the current average, he’s wrong. Too bad we have to wait till 2100 to prove him wrong, but whatever.

        Maybe if your heroes showed any ability to predict the future we could actually trust them to predict the future.

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  12. Anto says:
    February 13, 2014 at 12:33 am

    “It’s tough to make predictions. Especially about the future.”
    Yogi Berra

    I think there’s something in that for all of us.

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  13. Stark Dickflüssig says:
    February 13, 2014 at 12:51 am

    In matayoyo’s defense, she saw “Snow melts above 32 degrees Fahrenheit.” & figured the rest must be good, too.

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  14. Gail Combs says:
    February 13, 2014 at 12:53 am

    They should be vwery vwery careful.

    If Al Gore shows up you get this THIS!

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  15. gofer says:
    February 13, 2014 at 5:02 am

    Reading down, one comes to “some computer models predict.” …………………techno astrology.

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  17. catweazle666 says:
    February 13, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    They’ve been at it for years, here’s ‘The Independent’ from March 2000.

    Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past

    http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html

    And ‘Der Spiegel’ from Feb 2005

    Global Warming Threatens Famous Alps Resorts

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/global-warming-threatens-famous-alps-resorts-for-many-alpine-ski-areas-nordic-walking-may-be-the-sport-of-the-future-a-342280.html

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