After the attack on the Libyan embassy, the White House told us that he was taken to the hospital by a helpful crowd, and that he was suffering from smoke inhalation.
Current news is that Ambassador Stevens was raped before he was killed. If so, then this is pure jihad doctrine. The rules for rape of captured Kafirs (unbelievers) are Sunna. At the conquest of the Jews in Khaybar, the Hadith are explicit that captured Kafirs can be raped.
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It is telling that, just like with Nazism, there is an undercurrent of sadistic homosexuality among supposedly gay-phobic Jihadis. This was visible even when people were beheaded in front of cameras, and it’s continuing.
Don’t forget some of the best-known beheadings came during Russia’s terrible intervention into Chechnya. These were the template for how much terror one could use against a populace, and how much stronger the message becomes as it is crafted through religiosity. If you don’t believe me, look up Yevgeny Rodionov. Do you believe the Chechens didn’t have a right to struggle against Russian oppressors? Or do you believe the Chechens are alleged to have beheaded dozens of Russian soldiers on tape because none of them would convert to Islam?
It was amazing.
One day I was for the Chechens and the next…
Didn’t care so much anymore.
“twas about 12 years ago.
Make that 11 years,
And a couple of horrible incidents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis
Chuck the fechens.
The enitre concept is barbaric and excessively cruel. If that actually happened, those people are savages and have forfeited their status as human beings.
Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
S,O.P. for the Jihadis
“entire”
For those interested, here’s the source. ….. via Google translate.
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ar&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tayyar.org%2FTayyar%2FNews%2FPoliticalNews%2Far-LB%2Fusa-killed-lybia-zek-970.htm%23&act=url
Radical Islam, another Bill Warner Lecture involving the State of Tennessee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9sYgqRtZGg
Embed of it:
23 minute video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9sYgqRtZGg
The only way to stop this is to eliminate their apologists from positions of power in our govt… and to elect a congress of Alan West clones. A prospect that gives me great joy.
>>>Current news is that Ambassador Stevens was raped before he was killed. If so, then this is pure jihad doctrine.<<<
Other "current" news is that the attack on Benghazi was well-planned and planned well in advance. If so, it's just another Administration allowing another attack on American interests.
Jihad, sir, simply means "struggle." If you read Menachem Begin, for example, you will see that the Irgun led the Jews' struggle against the British. In fact, Mr Begin even extends his struggle to one against his own people — the military leadership of the Haganah — during the Altalena Affair and beyond. The Jewish Revolt was a matter of weaponry, the proper use of "terrorism," the crafting of the message and the direct PR manipulation of the people of the Homeland of Eretz Israel. Mr Begin says it himself.
This is History repeating. The Powers That Be are following the template created with the birth of Eretz Israel. They are working one side against another. They are crafting a message that Jihad is not a righteous fight — that to suppress a Revolution one must demonize the struggle. And it blends such delicious Orientalism in with an already Nationalist flavor benumbing the thinkers in the USA, so much so that Muslims are objectified and their struggle condensed into "an uprising deliberately provoked by a filmmaker." And smart folks like you buy it. Why? Because you allow your latent xenophobia to get the best of you.
I don't blame you, but please, adjust your thoughts on this Rebellion. If you respect these people as human beings it is impossible to believe they are capable of widespread killing, rape and torture over a movie made by, at this point unquestionably, an outsider. If you look at them as human beings you must understand that there are only a few things worth fighting for, regardless of the culture. If you respect them like you respect yourself, it is impossible to think men who follow a book could be capable of this without a good reason. And if it is indeed Revolution, who are we to keep them from fighting their struggle?
Please sir, I have such respect for what you are trying to do. I just wish you could see how this hurts you.
I’m not that smart. But insulting what little intelligence I do have is
fairly offensive.
I have not seen here a claim that this “movie” is the cause of the 9/11 uprising, or that it had anything to do at all with the brutal killing of Ambassador Stevens and his aide and bodyguards .
The “Revolution” you speak of has been widely supported by our administration and yet
is, as was known from the start, tilting toward our enemies.
It is quite a strech to attempt to shift the point of this thread from islamists raping and killing another man to quoting Menachem Begin about the struggle to reestablish the nation of Israel . As I recall the headline of this post was the rape of the US ambassobor to Lybia . I didn’t hear of a single Israeli being involved .
Guy, be reasonable. It’s called “Rectal Entry CPR” & it’s obviously accepted by 97% of moose limb emergency responders.
Oh, but that is not what the White House is telling me: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/17/obama-administration-libyan-president-clash-over-explanation-on-consulate/
Make that raped, then drug to a hospital. Nice of those ‘helpful’ folks.
Arabian Spring, aka The return to the Dark Ages
This news about what happened to your ambassador is disgusting and terrifying.
I fear for the future of the free West, as long as the only response is to try to appeace them.
The “struggle” is really about poverty, no jobs, no manufacturing, no business, too many children.
How many riots in Saudi Arabia ? Zero. Why ? Because they are rich and not wanting.
But the rich west who invented and makes or used to make everything is blamed by the rioters for the current miserable conditions in most of Islam.
The “You Tube Video” being blamed for the riots is hyperbole and a convenient excuse for self-anger at failing to prosper.
They need to figure out how to make a real business work and make something useful that the world would buy. Our current potus can’t seem to fathom the concept either…
Would there be a market for “Mo-dolls” or is that yet another insult….
No. Dolls is not a good idea .
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1687755,00.html
2007 Time magazine
“It probably seemed like the most innocent of ideas to the newly arrived teacher from England, still settling into life in the Sudanese capital Khartoum. She asked her class of six- and seven-year-olds to dress up and name a teddy bear, and keep a diary of his outings. She hoped it would provide material for projects for the rest of the year. And it might have, except for the name the children chose for their bear: Muhammad.
Now Gillian Gibbons, 54, is spending her second night in a Sudanese prison, accused of insulting Islam’s Prophet.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1687755,00.html#ixzz26l31ICCg
They name a lot of their kids “Mohammed, Muhammad, etc.”
Sounds like an insult to me. Sharpen the knives. Heads need to roll.
Maybe it’s because “Teddy” was “bare”.
Is “Mohammed” a popular pet name ?
I’m considering a dog or a pot-bellied pig…
Actually, it really sounds like more of an insult to the pet…
Are you trying to tell us that the dominant religious belief in the region has no effect on the actions of the people ? These people we are speaking of are quite obviously controlled by religious zealots who adhere to a bloody religion and have cauterized their human decency to the point that evil atrocities are acceptable .
This is a very sick religion. We will have to take up arms to protect ourselves from it.
Once the Arab world had a thriving technologically advanced civilisation – equal to the best of the day and years ahead of Europe.
Then came Islam – such a demanding doctrine stifles creativity and progress withers – witness Europe’s stagnation at the time Christianity controlled society with an iron fist.
Such intolerance leads to the decay of civilised behaviour – witness the outlandish and disgusting display by these #$%^holes.
The scenes I witnessed here in Australia are particularly disturbing – we had nothing to do with the so called justification for the disgraceful behaviour by these psychos yet we witnessed people, many of whom we accepted as refugees (or their parents were refugees), marching down our streets waving placards espousing hate and beheadings. A six year old holding a “Behead all those who insult the Prophet” placard – what a great future citizen he will become if that is what his psycho parents teach.
Enough I say – the Islamic world has wrought enough hatred on the innocent long enough.
Let us cut off all contact with them, stop all aid and make it very plain any further aggression will be met with every available force. Lets export the trouble-makers back to the society they or their ancestors came from.
“Behead all those who insult the Prophet” indeed – cleanse our civilisation of these backward hate mongers !
“—A— bloody religion”
“…—A— very sick religion… ”
Yep, all those filthy Episcopalian shoe bombers.
All those filthy Jews who blow up school-busses with RPG’s.
All those filthy Buddhists who gang-rape their enemies.
All those filthy Hindus who legally rape women whose ankles are exposed.
All those filthy Mormons whose foremost cause of death for little girls age 10 (minus a few months) are ‘complications’ due to pregnancy.
Yep. God-damned religious maniacs.
Mmmm, what about: ALL those HUMANIST Hippie Socialist Ideologues (Stalin, Mao, Pol-Pot, Hitler, Che, etc etc etc) who have buried a FEW hundred million people… Oh, and lets not forget Rachel Carson, and all her little HUMANIST buddies.
Example 2: Islam is Religion PLUS Legal System PLUS —IDEOLOGY-aka-Political-system—.
Example 1: “…witness Europe’s stagnation at the time Christianity…” Um, generalize much? What makes Roman Catholicism resemble Islam? BOTH are, ultimately, PURE Political organizations. Who use religion as an excuse for their foul existence.
But thankfully the world is filled with retarded fucks, like several of you, who are incapable of grasping the conflation fallacy; like you, who blame ‘religion’. You go girls! Whoo-hoo! Humanism will make it all oh-so-very-much better! Yes it can! Yay!
God, but I am so utterly sick and tired of retards who ‘think’ with their un-expelled turds.
Stick your stupid opinion where the sun don’t shine arsehole !
Ambassador Stevens may have been gay. The Middle East, a very dangerous place to send a gay person:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/did-obama-send-a-gay-ambassador-to-libya/
It is a pity this keeps degenerating in absurd and sweeping statements against Islam. For example at some part in its history every religion has been used to justify unspeakable crimes. Even atheism has been. Obviously it’s not religion, the problem.
Anyways anybody spouting hatred becomes just a pawn in the struggle (=Kampf that is Jihad) by some individuals thirsty for blood and power.
I won’t. Just like CAGWers some people will do anything to manipulate the world. But they won’t manipulate me.
“Even atheism has been.”
Wait, WHAT?
Please cite even ONE unspeakable crime or mass killing event which was done under the auspices of atheism.
Stalin and Mao were the two greatest mass murders of history. DOH
I knew someone would mention Stalin and Mao 🙂
If you’re saying that they committed atrocities under the NAME of atheism, that’s frankly as ridiculous as saying that CO2 causes global warming! They were basically personality cults and/or megalomaniacs, and in no way committed their mass killings BECAUSE they were atheist.
I’m an atheist – which is no more complicated than the complete lack of belief in a supernatural Creator. I believe in the existence of a Creator, as much as I believe that humans cause climate change/global warming. (I note unhappily that some fellow atheists do in fact believe that CO2 does cause climate change/global warming – like Richard Dawkins for example – he’s a staunch warmist, which makes me sad).
Please cite first-hand material which records that Stalin and Mao perpetrated atrocities in the NAME of atheism.
Regards.
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Luckily I wasn’t drinking coffee, which saved the monitor and keyboard 🙂
Look, I enjoy reading your posts and agree with what’s written here – but I couldn’t let that atheism thing go past without calling it out for the untruth it is.
Almost midnight here in Japan – I’m off to bed.
Regards