London is only three metres above sea level, and sea level is rising at 1.64 mm per year. This gives residents only 1,824 years to pack up their stuff and and move out.
Disrupting the Borg is expensive and time consuming!
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In Britain, usage of the Thames Barrier, which protects London from flooding down the Thames Estuary, has increased from less than once a year in the 1980s to an average of more than six times a year. It cost 1.3 Billion to build but if just one flood broke through the Thames Barrier today, it would cost about £30 billion in damage to London, roughly 2% of the current U.K. GDP.
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/38353.aspx
Ephesis is a few km inland when it used to be on the sea, does that mean the sea is going down, its much much colder today?
Oh by the way, you forgot the slow “tilting” of Britain (up in the north and west, and down in the south and east) caused by post-glacial rebound
Has the rate of sea level rise around London increased since the 80’s?
Looks like sea level hasn’t changed at all since the 1980s
Steven:
You need to find the proper dates that show the desired resuts and if you can not find what you want you adjust what you find to fit accepted climatology practices. Without following SOP for climatology you can not be a self proclaimed expert Climatology Prognosticator like Big Jim and his CLB.
Laz
I am not aware of any occasions in recent years when the river level has reached flooding levels when the barrier has been raised.
This would suggest that it is usually raised as a precautionary measure only and therefore that the number of times it is raised is irrelevant.
“The number of times the Thames Barrier closes is a direct indication of the number of high tides, storm surges, and high river flows affecting the Thames Estuary”.
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/research/library/publications/41065.aspx
It’s called W E A T H E R
I have never said it was Pump.
Just not that this WEATHER “has increased from less than once a year in the 1980s to an average of more than six times a year”.
Where is Lucy Skywallker when you need her. I think it was on her site I read about what the agency was doing to promote ACC eve though the barracade was not needed they closed it but most times it was closed was to keep water in than to keep water out.
TonyB would also have the answer and research to back it up.
Lazarus,
Richmond built a flood wall in the 70s after 3 devastating floods just prior to that. Since the wall was built, it has never been used.
See how stupid your analogy is?
I read the Thames Barrier had to be worked because non use was leading to deterioration that would require to replacing it. The other purpose was for testing and keeping people familiar with its operation rather than any real need.
I have also read that it has often been shut to keep water in at low tide when river levels are low.
They close the flood gates in Richmond periodically as well – in testing. However, no one counts that as being used. Given your statement, I now have to wonder how many times the Thames Barrier has been needed, versus how many times has it been “used”.
It’s only stupid if your are telling the truth;
“The flood wall has been tested one time by a major flood. Ironically, it was from a mild (in terms of wind speed) tropical storm (Gaston) in August, 2004. 14 inches (35 cm.) of rain fell in the space of a few hours. The wall did its job protecting the Shockoe Bottom from water from the James River, but poor drainage on the other side of the wall led to the destructive floods”.
http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/North_America/United_States_of_America/Virginia/Richmond-889403/General_Tips-Richmond-Richmond_Flood_Wall-BR-1.html
See how stupid your statement was?
12,0000 years ago you could walk from France to UK. The whole Channel is full of tusks from Mammoths and human settlement artifacts.
Who did this all change without much change in CO2? The rate continues, at the very slow pace of mm a year. That’s the same rate the continental plates move. Can you see them move in your lifetime?
Thanks for the science lesson Pump. And it’s relevance to this conversation is?…
No, you are the stupid one. The flood wall worked in reverse then, keeping the water in and leading to flooding! Do not believe everything you read. I was there. So, no the river did not rise during gaston, since all the rain fell ALL on Richmond, not up stream (where water for rivers come from).
Idiot. get a real source next time.
“No, you are the stupid one. ”
NO you are the stupid one! See how this works? I’d prefer to point out your ignorance rather than call you stupid but you started it with your immaturity.
You said the Richmond flood wall was has never been used. I have shown you that you are ignorant of the fact that it was used. The fact that it pretty much failed to do what it was designed for is a failure of planning but does not alter that you were wrong or ignorant.
The sea level has been rising for over 10,000 years. And the current rate is very small. We have built big cities close to areas which naturally flood regularly with storm surges. Thence we need a barrier. It’s not the end of the world, it’s life.
Lazarus says:
November 17, 2010 at 1:04 am
And the river at Richmond is TIDAL too. So is the world tilting towards England (I thought it did that 400 years ago – I guess some things never change).
Richmond being built on a river delta allows it to sink due to soil compression. Just like New Orleans and many other large cities around the globe. This was practice when shipping was primarily by water. But it is a practice that is waiting for disaster to strike. It matters not if ACC is a probable cause. History provides evidence that disaster will strike those locations that were built in harm’s way any day now. Rebuilding to show resilience is a future disaster waiting to happen.
Not really. Richmond is 70 miles inland. And built on “7 hills” (according to lore). So while many parts of the area are very swampy, the actual city is sitting up (except the part on the river banks).
Those parts that are at sea level are the ones the ACD group will use as evidence for rising sea levels.
I just looked at my TOPO map and Checked the level of the river not down town. It is the riverside areas that are used as examples not the “High and Dry ones”.