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People making comparisons to Monty Python are clueless. What is up with that?

The eco-fascist culture has lost any semblance of sanity.

Attention Reuters/BBC

You can’t see CO2. If you could, your car would fill up with opaque vapour from your breath – and you would crash before you made it out of the driveway.

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Thanks to Julienne for explaining what was going on around the periphery.

My questions have to do more with the interior. I made an animation (above) of one region – showing July/September normalised (i.e. adjusted for drift.)  I think this makes my observation a little clearer.

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Julienne Stroeve from NSIDC responded to my query earlier this morning. Here is what she said:

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People who imagine they can stop climate change by making snuff flicks about children are certifiable.

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This is what troubles me about the NSIDC ice age maps. The image above is a sample cross section through the ice. The multi-year ice (green) disappeared after July, but left the much more vulnerable first year ice (pink) intact.

In order for this to happen, warm water would have to flow under the ice for a thousand km without equilibrating, and then selectively melt the solid, hard to melt multi-year ice – while leaving the rotten first year ice intact.

There are quite a few problems with that theory. What am I missing?

I sent off a query to Julienne about this earlier this morning.

Any theories about this? NSIDC shows a huge loss of multi-year ice (green) around the pole, Greenland, and the Canadian Archipelago since the end of July. Given that temperatures in those regions have been quite cold since the end of July, I’m having a really tough time understanding what happened.

Much of that region has been below freezing for essentially the entire period.

Satellite data showed essentially no ice loss in that region since the end of July, much less loss of thick multi-year ice. Multiyear ice doesn’t just disappear without open water appearing. There was never any open water in most of the affected areas.

What their maps show is that the ice got younger, not melted. How does ice get younger?

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NSIDC reports – At the end of the summer 2010, under 15% of the ice remaining the Arctic was more than two years old, compared to 50 to 60% during the 1980s.

Ohhh that sounds bad. But wait a minute ……. there is more to this story.

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Joe Romm has been telling us that 2010 is the “hottest year ever” – despite the fact that satellite temperatures say otherwise. But today, he excitedly reports “ENDLESS SUMMER:  September was the hottest on record globally in the RSS satellite dataset.”

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