Climate Change Driven Terrorism In 1941

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1. lyn208 says:

   December 7, 2015 at 4:42 pm

   Oh now their they are really really reaching!

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2. LOL in Oregon says:

   December 7, 2015 at 5:26 pm

   But our fearless leader stated yesterday:
   …….”I know that after so much war, many Americans are asking
   ……whether we are confronted by a cancer that has no immediate cure,”
   and he drew his “red line”
   ….and the nasty people must listen cuz he is the great Oz!
   ……(ignore the ‘poor wizard’, community organizer behind the curtain)

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3. gator69 says:

   December 7, 2015 at 6:43 pm

   If only the team had removed the 1940’s blip in the 1930’s.

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4. DD More says:

   December 7, 2015 at 11:17 pm

   And Lieutenant Commander Arthur McCollum’s 8 point plan had nothing to do with it. Early ‘Smoke-n-Mirrors”

   On October 7, 1940, Lieutenant Commander Arthur McCollum of the Office of Naval Intelligence submitted a memo to Navy Captains Walter Anderson and Dudley Knox (whose endorsement is included in the following scans). Captains Anderson and Knox were two of President Roosevelt’s most trusted military advisors.

   The memo, scanned below, detailed an 8 step plan to provoke Japan into attacking the United States. President Roosevelt, over the course of 1941, implemented all 8 of the recommendations contained in the McCollum memo. Following the eighth provocation, Japan attacked. The public was told that it was a complete surprise, an “intelligence failure”, and America entered World War Two.
   http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/McCollum/index.html

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   • gator69 says:

     December 7, 2015 at 11:21 pm

     The McCollum memo was first widely disseminated with the publication of Robert Stinnett’s book Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor. Stinnett presents the memo as part of his argument the Roosevelt Administration conspired to secretly provoke the Japanese to attack the United States in order to bring the United States into the European war without generating public contempt over broken political promises. Roosevelt had recently issued a campaign promise the United States would not become entangled in Europe’s war under his watch. Stinnett omits to mention McCollum never had contact with Roosevelt, and Stinnett’s claims to the contrary are false.[4][unreliable source?] Moreover, Stinnett attributes to McCollum a position McCollum expressly repudiated.[5] McCollum’s own sworn testimony also refutes it.[6]

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCollum_memo

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5. Beale says:

   December 8, 2015 at 3:13 am

   The Japanese attacks on Dec. 7, 1941 were not suicide attacks at all. There were losses, naturally, but most of the Japanese flyers returned safely (on that day, I mean).

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   • rah says:

     December 10, 2015 at 12:41 am

     Your right! Not a suicide attack for those involved except one Japanese flyer who’s plane was damaged that he couldn’t make it back and so intentionally crashed and perhaps so for the crews of the midget submarines.

     But the attack was a suicidal act of provocation for the government. The Japanese simply could not win the war because of logistic realities and many at the highest levels in the military knew it. All of their own war games prior to the war demonstrated that to them. For them to win those war games they had to cheat by creating phantom ships and warplanes. They would transport oil they did not have via tankers they did not have and ships would be refueled from oilers they did not have and replenished by ships they did not have. And yet despite their war games and staff studies strongly indicating they could not win, they still attacked.

     Later when the military personnel and diplomats that had diplomatic protection and had been in the US when the war was started were repatriated to Japan via the ship of a neutral it was decided to use their knowledge of the US military and it’s industrial capabilities to conduct another war game. That war game was abruptly ended when during it’s conduct the US retook the Philippines. In the real world MacArthur made his speech on the beach at Palo, Leyte only two months later than the date that war game had predicted the invasion would occur.

     I guess this might be the place to paste a little thing I wrote about US Battleships:
     The best I can figure the oldest US Battleship to take part as a combatant in WW II was the USS Arkansas BB 33 She was first commissioned in 9/17/1912 and was decommissioned 29/July/1946. She was one of many targets ships used for the nuclear tests at Bikini atoll where she sank.

     The lead ship of her two ship class to which the US Arkansas BB 33 belonged was the USS Wyoming BB 32. It was used as a gunnery training ship during WW II and saw no combat while the USS Arkansas BB33 saw action in the Atlantic, Mediterranean and finally late in the war in the Pacific.

     A total of 32 US Battleships took part in WW II as combatants, including those that were sunk during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Here is the listing of the ships and their ultimate fates:

     Dreadnaught Type Battleships:

     Wyoming Class:
     USS Arkansas (BB 33) 17 Sep 1912 / 29 Jul 1946 Arkansas was sunk as a target in the atomic bomb tests at Bikini Atoll on 25 Jul 1946

     New York Class:
     USS New York (BB 34) 15 Apr 1914 / 29 Aug 1946 New York was a target in the atomic bomb tests at Bikini Atoll on 1 and 25 Jul 1946. She survived those blasts but was sunk as a target 40 miles off Pearl Harbor 8 Jul 1948.

     USS Texas (BB 35) 12 Mar 1914 / 21 Apr 1948 Texas was turned over to the state of Texas to serve as a permanent memorial at San Jacinto State Park in 1948

     Standard Type Battleships:

     Nevada Class:
     USS Nevada (BB 36) 11 Mar 1916 / 21 Apr 1948 Nevada was a target in the atomic bomb tests at Bikini Atoll on 1 and 25 Jul 1946. She survived those blasts but was sunk as a target 40 miles off Pearl Harbor 8 Jul 1948

     USS Oklahoma (BB 37) 2 May 1916 / 1 Sep 1944 Oklahoma was sunk at Pearl Harbor on 7 Dec 1941. Raised, she entered drydock 28 Dec 1943. Stripped of guns and superstructure, she was sold 5 Dec 1946 to Moore Drydock Co., but sank 17 May 1947 540 miles from Pearl on her way to San Francisco

     Pennsylvania Class:
     USS Pennsylvania (BB 38) 12 Jun 1916 / 29 Aug 1946 Pennsylvania was a target in the atomic bomb tests at Bikini Atoll on 1 and 25 Jul 1946. She survived those blasts but was sunk off Kwajalein 19 Feb 1948

     USS Arizona (BB 39) 17 Oct 1916 / — Arizona was destroyed at her berth in the attack on Pearl Harbor 7 Dec 1941. She was stricken from the Naval Register on 1 Dec 1942. The Arizona Memorial was dedicated 30 May 1962.

     New Mexico Class:
     USS New Mexico (BB 40) 20 May 1918 / 19 Jul 1946 Sold for scrapping 13 Oct 1947 to Lipsett, Inc., New York.

     USS Mississippi (BB 41) 18 Dec 1917 / 17 Dec 1956 Sold for scrapping 28 Nov 1956 to Bethlehem Steel Co

     USS Idaho (BB 42) 24 Mar 1919 / 3 Jul 1946 Sold for scrapping 24 Nov 1947 to Lipsett, Inc., New York.

     Tennessee Class:
     USS Tennessee (BB 43) 3 Jun 1920 / 14 Feb 1947 Sold for scrapping 10 Jul 1959 to Bethlehem Steel Co.

     USS California (BB 44) 10 Aug 1921 / 14 Feb 1947 Sold for scrapping 10 Jul 1959

     Colorado Class:
     USS Colorado (BB 45) 30 Aug 1923 / 7 Jan 1947 Sold for scrapping 23 Jul 1959.

     USS Maryland (BB 46) 21 Jul 1921 / 3 Apr 1947 Sold for scrapping 8 Jul 1959 to Learner Co., Oakland, Ca.

     USS West Virginia (BB 48) 1 Dec 1923 / 9 Jan 1947 Sold for scrap 24 Aug 1959 to Union Minerals and Alloys Corp., New York

     Fast Battleship Type:

     North Carolina Class:
     USS North Carolina (BB 55) 9 Apr 1941 / 27 Jun 1947 Transferred to the state of North Carolina 6 Sep 1961. Dedicated as memorial 29 Apr 1962 at Wilmington, N.C

     USS Washington (BB 56) 15 May 1941 / 27 Jun 1947 Sold for scrap 24 May 1961 to Lipsett Div., Luria Bros. & Co

     South Dakota Class:
     USS South Dakota (BB 57) 20 Mar 1942 / 31 Jan 1947 Sold for scrap 25 Oct 1962 to Lipsett Div., Luria Bros. & Co

     USS Indiana (BB 58) 30 Apr 1942 / 11 Sep 1947 Sold for scrap 1 Jun 1962.

     USS Massachusetts (BB 59) 12 May 1942 / 27 Mar 1947 Transferred to the Massachusetts Memorial Committee 8 Jun 1965 and preserved as a memorial 14 Aug 1965

     USS Alabama (BB 60) 16 Aug 1942 / 9 Jan 1947 Transferred to the state of Alabama 16 Jun 1964 for use as a memorial.

     Iowa Class:
     USS Iowa (BB 61) 22 Feb 1943 / 24 Mar 1949 Recommissioned 25 Aug 1951, decommissioned again 24 Feb 1958. Recommissioned again 28 Apr 1984, decommissioned last time 26 Oct 1990. Berthed in Suisan Bay, San Francisco, Calif., 21 April 2001.

     USS New Jersey (BB 62) 23 May 1943 / 30 Jun 1948 Recommissioned at Bayonne 21 Nov 1950, decommissioned again 21 Aug 1957. Recommissioned at Philadelphia 6 Apr 1968, decommissioned again 17 Dec 1969. Recommissioned at Long Beach, Calif., 28 Dec 1982, decommissioned last time 8 Feb 1991. Towed 12 Sept. 1999 by the tug Sea Victory from Bremerton to Philadelphia, arriving 11 Nov. On 20 Jan. 2000, SECNAV announced donation to Home Port Alliance of Camden, N.J., for use as a museum.

     USS Missouri (BB 63) 11 Jun 1944 / 26 Feb 1955 Recommissioned in San Francisco 10 May 1986, decommissioned again 31 Mar 1992. Located 1,000 yards from the Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor, Missouri was opened as a museum 29 Jan. 1999.

     USS Wisconsin (BB 64) 16 Apr 1944 / 1 Jul 1948 Recommissioned 3 Mar 1951, decommissioned again at Bayonne on 8 Mar 1958. Recommissioned again on 22 Oct 1988, decommissioned for the final time on 30 Sep 1991. Moored at the National Maritime Center, Norfolk, Va., 7 Dec. 2000, the centerpiece of a four-part naval history exhibit. Wisconsin opened to the public on 16 Apr 2001.
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     You will notice that though the numbers for the ships are sequential there are numbers missing from the sequence. Numbers 47 and 49 thru 54 are missing. This is because some battleships already put onto the the Navy’s roles were either canceled or scrapped before their construction was completed because of the Washington Naval treaties.

     An explanation of differences in Dreadnought, Standard, and Fast Battleships types:

     Dreadnought type Battleships were the first battleships to have all the big guns of a consistent size concentrated in revolving turrets along the longitudinal center line of the ship. All battleship types after the Dreadnoughts also had this same general layout. The speed and maneuvering capabilities of Dreadnought types differed greatly from one class to another often making it difficult for ships of different classes to operate effectively together.

     Standard type Battleships also used the basic Dreadnought design but the 12 ships built in 5 different classes has similar speed and maneuvering characteristics so it was far easier for ships of different classes of the Standard type to operate together in battle.

     Fast Battleship types were exactly that, they were much faster than all the proceeding types of Battleships. This increased speed was possible because of advances in propulsion machinery and were needed because of the changing role of the Battleship. Prior to WW II the premiere Naval weapon were the Battleship and Battlecruisers. These were the “Ships of the line” thus all other types of combat ships were designed to support the Battleships operations in one way or another. WW II brought forth the dominance of the Aircraft Carrier as the Navy’s primary weapon and the old Battleships were too slow to operate with the new Carriers. Thus faster Battleships were required.

     Fast battleships weren’t only faster they were much more fuel efficient than the earlier two types. Fact is that during the dark early days when the US and Imperial Japanese Navies were duking it out during the Guadalcanal campaign and the Marines were holding onto the island by a thread the US had several standard battleships available that could have been sent. But despite the intensity of the surface actions and the need the Navy simply did not have the logistical capability to fuel them in the area of operations and so the only US battleships involved in any of the several major surface actions at that time were the newer and more fuel efficient fast battleships, USS N. Carolina, USS S. Carolina, and USS Washington.

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     • rah says:

       December 10, 2015 at 12:53 am

       Sorry S. Carolina should have been S. Dakota. Know I corrected that some time back but somehow the original version got posted here without that correction.

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6. Robertv says:

   December 8, 2015 at 12:19 pm

   Not a lot of heat left in the Middle East.

   http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp9.html

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