President Lyndon Johnson was best known for being the most liberal member of the Senate, before he created the welfare state and started the Vietnam War.
Like Obama, Johnson also thought that he controlled the climate.
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Progressive means progress! Johnson just wanted to control fogs but now Obama The One can set the earths temperature to within 0.5 degrees. I am thankful to live under a great Dear Leader!
… started the Vietnam War.
Hmm? Escalated maybe, but started no.
Kennedy and Eisenhower were there first, and don’t forget the French. But all pale before …
“North Vietnam invaded Laos in 1959, and used 30,000 men to build invasion routes through Laos and Cambodia by 1961.[131] About 40,000 communist soldiers infiltrated into the south from 1961–63.[125] North Vietnam sent 10,000 troops of the NVA to attack the south in 1964, and this figure increased to 100,000 in 1965.[132]”
source: Wiki
Note all dates before Johnson.
Johnson faked the Gulf of Tonkin incident and got 70,000 Americans killed
I thought it was only 50,000. and about a million Vietnamese.
Actually, 58,000 is the number usually quoted. The World Almanac and Book of Facts 1995 says there were 47,369 battle deaths and 10,799 “other” (non-combat) deaths. There were 153,303 wounded, for a total of 211,471 American casualties.
Tonkin was 1964. You want to criticise it, go ahead. You won’t find me opposing you, but the incident didn’t start the war.
What pisses me off about the left is that whatever the issue is it’s “our fault”. If we don’t invade Syria, the deaths will be our fault. If we do, it will be our fault. Johnson has manifest faults, criticise every one, but don’t repeat the errors of the left.
Reblogged this on The Firewall.
I downloaded the entire article and found these parts interesting:
“We can now begin to see the day,” he said “when such programs may become operationally feasible.”
A broad-based national program of weather modification, the foundation’s report said, should include research and dispersion of fogs, cloud seeding for rain, suppression of hail, changing the course and nature of hurricanes, redirecting the paths of storms towards drought areas and increasing precipitation from summer showers and thunderstorms.
I wouldn’t be surprised if these leftist control freaks are actually doing this now in order to convince us that any storms and such are from climate change. And of course, the way to stop it is to redistribute our wealth to the ‘South,’ let the UN or some supranational global agency control and manage the world’s resources, and instill a global leftist government.
Out here in Southern CA, I’ve noticed that the contrails from jets sometimes end up clouding almost the entire sky. I wonder if this is enough to cool down the area underneath it and change weather patterns?
Kennedy started the Vietnam war, not Johnston…
Johnson massively escalated it.
Steven,
Spot on. Below is a link for the research challenged. Vietnam troop levels by year. Johnson went wacko, at 3200% increase over Kennedy
http://www.americanwarlibrary.com/vietnam/vwatl.htm
Troop Levels (last year of administration)
1963 Kennedy : 16,300
1968 Johnson : 536,100
1974 Nixon : < 50
Imagine if Ho Chí Minh were alive today and being interviewed on Jon Stewart or some equally stupid talkshow like Bill O’Reilly … “You see Jon, there would have been no war if the traitorous swine of the Republic of Vietnam had surrendered to the lawful and proper Viet Minh. The capitalist Yankee regime caused this war by filling their heads with thoughts of freedom and independence, things not compatible with a socialist state. Look at us, we’re yellow, not white. We’re simply not fit for western style self-government, we’re genetically predisposed to submit to totalitarian authority, it is necessary for order and structure among my people. That’s why there was a war Jon!”
If you ask me who caused it, I would say it was a predictable and preventable domino effect. We stupidly made the world safe for Communism when FDR and Churchill and finally Truman eliminated Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, but left Stalin and then Mao alive to fill the vacuum. Korea and Vietnam were but two of many delayed World War II battles fought or avoided to varying degrees like Berlin, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Cambodia, and many African states.
Five terms, twenty consecutive years of (D)ummycrats with large majorities in Congress and the Supreme Court is all it takes to invent such a disaster. At the start of that era in 1933 there was a budding Nazi movement in Germany and a proton-militaristic movement in Japan. At the end of that era in 1953 the outgoing 5-term (D)ummycrats had removed those two threats but let them be replaced by Soviet and Chinese communism which in fact expanded their reach much farther than the original monsters.
I guess JFK and LBJ had two choices, let the communists kill and swallow up the South, or fight. They half-heartedly chose the latter. The escalation was a response to the rising American death toll. The alternative was cut and run. The mistake was never the fight, but was not winning the fight. The mistake was not picking off Ho Chí Minh and Gen. Giap and vaporizing Hanoi.