The orbiting spacecraft sampled Venus’ atmosphere from top to bottom, enabling the scientists to establish the exact amounts of sunlight absorbed at various places in the atmosphere and at the surface. Measurements of atmosphere composition, temperature profiles and radiative heating predicted Venus’ surface temperature very accurately.
Although the planet is closer to the Sun than Earth, and has a relatively thin atmosphere like Earth’s, that atmosphere consists of more than 90 percent of carbon dioxide, compared to less than four percent for Earth. Thus, the much higher percentage of carbon dioxide in Venus’ atmosphere traps much more heat radiation than does Earth.
Amazing! Scientists in 1981 almost as stupid as Hansen. Venus has an extremely thick atmosphere, and very little sunlight reaches the surface because of thick clouds. You can’t heat a greenhouse without sunlight. Hot temperatures on Venus have just about nothing to do with the greenhouse effect.
The Venus studies are believed to be important to the understanding of posssible adverse effects on Earth’s agriculture and sea levels that could result from society’s long-term use of fossil fuels, which add carbon dioxide to the atmosphere.
The findings, released recently by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, were made by a team of scientists from NASA’s Ames Research Center in Mountain View, Calif., and the University of Arizona in Tucson.
Illustrations: Photo of a mummy cat
“Less than 4% for earth.”
Yeah, 0.04% is less than 4%. It’s 100 times less.
They are journalism majors, they don’t need math.
Relatively thin atmosphere. 92 Bar isn’t much pressure at all.
The decision to deceive the public about the Sun’s influence on Earth was made much earlier, in 1945-46.
1. The internal composition of the Sun was changed from mostly iron (Fe) in 1945 to mostly hydrogen (H) in 1946.
2. Textbooks replaced Nobel Laureate Aston’s rigorously valid “nuclear packing fraction” with von Weizsacker’s convincing but deceptive “nuclear binding energy” after the Second World War.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/Chapter_2.pdf
Best wishes for the New Year,
Oliver K. Manuel
Former NASA Principal
Investigator for Apollo
http://twitpic.com/dpmsyx
And best wishes to you, Mr Manuel – and thanks for your insights.
How about the atmosphere of Mars?
The Mars Rover measured the composition of Mars’ atmosphere right at 96% CO2:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PIA16460_Mars_Atmosphere_Gases_20121102.svg
If there is a greenhouse gas effect, and CO2 is a greenhouse gas, shouldn’t Mars be trapped in the feared “runaway heating” scenario that the AGW alarmists warn of here on Earth?
Using simple logic, if the greenhouse gas effect is liable to throw a planet into out-of-control “forced” heating when the atmosphere is 0.0399999% CO2, wouldn’t the runaway heating feedback be more likely when the atmosphere is 96% CO2?
Doesn’t the 96% CO2 atmosphere of Mars proove of the null hypothesis of the greenhouse effect theory?
It would seem that Mars is a living experiment putting the lie to the greenhouse gas theory.
Kent,
The success of propaganda depends, not on logic, but on emotions and instincts.
If man really had instincts and they were as disconnected from reality as propaganda, man would not have survive the stone age. Yet, he did. That demonstrates that man did learn something about what actually is and acted accordingly. Either that or his so called instincts weren’t as disconnected from reality as you project.
The fundamental law of existence is that the more important it is for your survival, the more important it is to act consistent with the nature of that existence. This no matter what path to knowledge you try to trod; instinct, faith, reason, or pure dumb luck. There is only one of these paths that has a frequently non fatal and built in error correction mechanism: reason. The others are corrected by the Darwin Effect: only the successful survive in the long run. Since there are more ways to be wrong than right, surviving by accident is a chancy thing with very low odds.
Yep. There was a posting here about this some time in the last few months.
And did they really find a mummified cat on Venus in 1981? Evidently the atmosphere was too thin for it to survive.
According to Electric Universe scientists, Venus is not a runaway greenhouse situation but instead is due to electrical discharging, as Venus is a relatively younger planet than Earth. Venus just came out of the oven, so to speak.
See http://www.thunderbolts.info for articles and links to full-length documentaries. See “The Electric Comet” video to understand comets from this perspective. Venus at one time in human history had a visible cometary display. Today, “stringy things” are coming from Venus, indicating there are still these forces at work. The galaxy is powered by electrical currents flowing through space. There is no black hole at the center of the galaxy but a “plasmoid”. They can explain it all via simple electric force. These effects can be replicated in the laboratory. Oh ya, the Big Bang also is a farce and outdated based on Newtonian physics and old ideas rather than modern observations. See Eric Lerner “The Big Bang Never Happened” and also Halton Arp “Seeing Red”.
Climate is also affected here on Earth by similar electrical effects. Cosmic rays are among the most powerful known forces in the Universe and can seed clouds (via generation of electrically charged particles).
According to the EU science, Mars experienced a powerful electrical discharge when Valles Marinaris was created, huge boulders were lifted into space (electrical force is 10×39 times more powerful than gravity), asteroids and comets are how we experience them today.
Climate change on Earth follows regular patterns. According to the 100,000 cycle, we are due for extreme cold ahead, over the coming decades. Some of this science could indicate that we will not be this warm again for another 100,000 years possibly. If it is even as cold as the Dalton Minimum, this is said to be dang cold. Maunder Minimum would be worse. A real ice age would mean true catastrophe. Why don’t the CAGW followers also warm about this now very possible scenario?
I’m still wondering how the CO2 denigrators plan to heat their homes when the severe winters approach? It’s a false debate. The concern over fracking and pollution are legitimate concerns, in my opinion. But the dogmatic approach they are taking is sure to bring doom. I hope that people concerned about the environment can see the difference between CO2 and real pollution. Don’t let these valid concerns get hijacked by the CO2 debate. We have extreme poverty taking over this country, health and nutrition issues, untested GMOs, untested chemicals, possibility of nuclear war, radiation, pesticides and other chemicals, mercury, arsenic, lead, and many more things to be concerned about as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4Taz18Ss1vU
There are forces in the universe that are being completely ignored by the Standard Model. The force is 10×39 times more powerful than gravity. It can carve mountains into valleys on planetary bodies within a very short period of time. It creates coma around comets and corona around the sun. It can make geological events appear older than they are. Sometimes what we think we know about “science” turns out to be dogma. Immanuel Velikovsky first theorized that Venus was 800 degrees. The Standard Model tribe mocked and ridiculed him. He was also ridiculed when he claimed that Jupiter produces radio waves. This was 50 years ago. Pioneers in science are often ignored or even ostracized.
All matter is made from LIGHT, ie, the Electro-magnetic spectrum. Centers of galaxies are powered by plasmoids. This can be repeated in laboratory experiments. The “missing mass” is plasma. Observations support a much different universe than the one we have believed about the Big Bang. The electromagnetic spectrum affects climate on all planets, do they not? Why are the most powerful wind speeds on the outer planets farthest from the sun? Wind speeds on Saturn reach 1800 km/hr.
The EU scientists have some exciting information for those that take the time to ponder. They are often ignored by mainstream astrophysicists and their discipline falls mainly under plasma physics and the IEEE. Hannes Alfven (nobel in magneto-hydrodynamics) first proposed that the universe is filled with plasma. Modern observations are proving this to be the case.
Shouldn’t that headline read Government Scientists On Crack?