Don’t be silly steve, it is juat an Alogrithm Error, they will soon fix it so that it doesn’t show any upturn and probably even a steep downturn.
If the data doesn’t fit, fix it.
The primary driver of ice loss/gain is winter wind in the Arctic. If a lot of MYI gets blown out into the North Atlantic as it from 1986-2007, then ice declines. Since then the winds have changed and ice is increasing.
Adding on, From nsidc:
” When the Arctic Oscillation is in its negative mode, he said, the winds and ice tend to flow in a clockwise direction, generally keeping more of the older, thicker ice in the middle of the Arctic. In the positive phase, that old ice tends to get pushed out of the Arctic along the Greenland coast.” http://nsidc.org/icelights/2012/02/02/the-arctic-oscillation-winter-storms-and-sea-ice/
What about 2012 Steve, a last blow in the wrong direction?
I agree with you that the Arctic ice recovery started in 2008, at least that’s what the cryosphere graph shows, http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.arctic.png
with winter anomalies approaching the average.
I believe they also show a connection with solar radiations, a *direct connection* actually.
Oh that pesky data. Gaia must just hate when this happens.
Don’t be silly steve, it is juat an Alogrithm Error, they will soon fix it so that it doesn’t show any upturn and probably even a steep downturn.
If the data doesn’t fit, fix it.
Steve, your next headline could be:
The Arctic Strikes Back
Personnally I’m looking forward to the climate crocks at ClimateCrocks next ice update… They don’t bother to look at ice thickness, location nor the weather…. http://climatecrocks.com/2014/07/23/arctic-ice-midsummer-melt-update/
Tomorrow NSIDC’s graph should be delightful!
Has the AMO gone negative yet? If not, do you think the ice extent will approach the 80’s average when it finally does?
The primary driver of ice loss/gain is winter wind in the Arctic. If a lot of MYI gets blown out into the North Atlantic as it from 1986-2007, then ice declines. Since then the winds have changed and ice is increasing.
Adding on, From nsidc:
” When the Arctic Oscillation is in its negative mode, he said, the winds and ice tend to flow in a clockwise direction, generally keeping more of the older, thicker ice in the middle of the Arctic. In the positive phase, that old ice tends to get pushed out of the Arctic along the Greenland coast.”
http://nsidc.org/icelights/2012/02/02/the-arctic-oscillation-winter-storms-and-sea-ice/
AO 1950-2014 for jan feb mar:
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/JFM_season_ao_index.shtml
What about 2012 Steve, a last blow in the wrong direction?
I agree with you that the Arctic ice recovery started in 2008, at least that’s what the cryosphere graph shows,
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.arctic.png
with winter anomalies approaching the average.
I believe they also show a connection with solar radiations, a *direct connection* actually.
Cue the “humans caused the winds to change” morons.
I date Gaia in the 60s. She was good in the sack but wanted to talk about my feelings so I left.
No problem Tony. You simply have to either convert, pay a tax…..or die.