Shock News : Norwegians Say Mann And Rahmstorf Are Spreading Nonsense

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– Maelstrom not svekt

many have responded to the research results of Professor Stefan Rahmstorf of havstraumane in the Atlantic.

This is only nonsense, win second researchers, showing among other things adds a report from NASA in the United States . Using ein monitoring technique developed by oceanographer Josh Vills have dei determined that the Gulf Stream in no way svekt. He uses satellite-based technology to monitor the Gulf Stream and the others important havstraumane.

Result would emerges to strongly contradict what Rahmstorf and Mann have found out. NASA researcher John Vills has determined that it is not was change in strength on havstraumane in the period 2002-2009.

– Gulf Stream has not altered his – News, TV and radio from around the world –

Google uses Politifact as their source of climate truth. Politifact uses perpetually incompetent Michael Mann as their source of climate truth.

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64 Responses to Shock News : Norwegians Say Mann And Rahmstorf Are Spreading Nonsense

  1. gator69 says:

    Mann makes Bill Nye look smart.

  2. emsnews says:

    Translation of the translation: NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH GULF STREAM CURRENTS.

    Thank you, everyone.

  3. Ken says:

    Now that’s Funny!

  4. darrylb says:

    Again repeating myself.
    Another Steve at Climate Audit has an excellent post on this article.
    It goes beyond what was reported at WUWT and Climate Etc.
    They actually use the same data resources they used to make the hockey stick.
    Absolutely pathetic!

  5. darrylb says:

    I am German/French, why wife is 100% Norwegian. Maybe I know a little bit more why I love her.
    Married 42 years..

  6. g2-9ed9acc685824c6663c51c5b093476cc says:

    Everyone uses “science” as their source of truth.

    “What is science,” I ask? “The things we discover using the scientific method,” they respond.

    “But that’s like me asking ‘what is steam’ and you responding ‘it’s that stuff that happens when water boils.’ You’re desvribing the process not the product.”

    I go in to explain that “science” simply means “knowledge.” And that further, the state of “science” is always in flux, not because of the “scientific method” but because of any and all efforts to acquire and refine it.

    This gets them in a larger. Because when they say “the scientific method” they really mean “only those things we know by ‘rational’ means that we approve of.”
    It’s a religion. And like all fanatical adherents, worshippers of science want to burn heretics.

    • g2-9ed9acc685824c6663c51c5b093476cc says:

      “Lather” not “larger.”

    • gator69 says:

      Science is the search for truth.

    • Gail Combs says:

      g2-9ed9acc685824c6663c51c5b093476cc says: “Everyone uses “science” as their source of truth…”

      No, I disagree. We use reality. Science uses the scientific method to come up with theories/models/mathematical equations that APPROXIMATE/describe reality. That is why science is always in flux and being refined. Why theories get discarded as new information about reality is discovered.

      It is why the statement “The Science is settled.” is laughed at by any true scientist. Any older scientist has seen some of the science he learned in high school and college discard. As a scientist you have to have a flexible mind or you are left in the dust.

      • darrylb says:

        Absolutely Gail, or at least that is what we always taught.
        Also, the adventure which is called science, in truth, always operates around the edges of what is known to be true or which is theorized to be true.

        When new and additional observations are made, hypothesis’ are made, tests and experiments should be done to verify. That is why we are supposed to have and really must have freedom of information

        Skepticism is an integral ingredient, or should be in the process. Gradually the volume of knowledge, mostly theorized gradually expands. Rarely are there quantum leaps.
        Perhaps initially there are leaps, but they must be scrutinized and verified.

        The entire Climate fiasco has made a mockery of the process. It happens when politics and money become controlling factors. Eisenhower knew exactly what he was talking about in his farewell speech.

    • Jason Calley says:

      Science is belief based on experience, not based on desire or imagination.

    • oeman50 says:

      I disagree. Science IS the process. It is not the “knowledge,” knowledge is mutable and transitory as it is refined via the scientific method.

      And your steam analogy is not valid. You are correct when you say ‘it’s that stuff that happens when water boils’ describes the process, but that is not what steam is. Steam is water vapor and is not always produced by boiling. Your argument is a straw man.

      • Truthseeker says:

        “Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.” – Richard Fenyman.

        I am sure I read that somewhere …

  7. omanuel says:

    Climategate emails in 2009 was the nose of a giant camel of deceit that started growing in 1945, convincing world leaders of both political parties, “Better Red Than Dead !”

    • darrylb says:

      Omanuel, I agree with the nose of the camel regarding climategate emails …..and you have been kind of a lone ranger on how things began in my birth year : Since you are so dedicated, I will keep looking into it to a greater extent.

      • omanuel says:

        Thanks for your kindness. I was born nine years earlier in 1936, exactly three months after Aston lectured on the “nuclear packing fraction” at the Imperial University of Tokyo on 13 June 1936.

        A 19-year old student – KAZUO KURODA – who would later be my research mentor in nuclear chemistry attended the lecture, graduated, became one of the youngest ever faculty members at the Imperial University of Tokyo.

        Kuroda was a genius. I convey the message he wanted the public to have when he assigned my research project on the origin of the solar system and its elements in 1960.

        • omanuel says:


          exactly FOUR months after Aston lectured on the “nuclear packing fraction” at the Imperial University of Tokyo on 13 June 1936

    • darrylb says:

      I have began doing due diligence, Read the abstract and first several pages, scanned the rest. I have to say I might keep finding this more fascinating as I read through it.
      Two things.
      If someone else on this blog has a background in physics, I would like you to consider reading and digesting it. It is unique I think.
      Secondly, Omanuel, who today is alive and has done similar work and might to some degree corroborate the general nature of your work, not necessarily be in total agreement.

  8. Mohatdebos says:

    Somewhat OT, but how or why an editor allows the publication of drivel like this is beyond comprehension. The article notes that one reason Michigan’s moos population might have declined is that winters the last two years have been bitter. In the very next paragraph, they state that “But in the long term, a warming climate may be the moose’s biggest enemy.”

  9. sully says:

    T bone Moose steak. Mushrooms, fiddleheads, and home made corn squeeze. Life is good.

  10. robotech master says:

    hey steve can you fact check this “fact checker”

    “As shown in the quote above, we said the hearing was amplified for “stage effect” — a sweltering day made worse by leaving the hearing room windows open. The anecdote has been repeated in books and news articles, and Kerry often mentioned it in his remarks as if he had personally witnessed it.

    For skeptics of climate change, the story has become an example of how left-leaning politicians have manipulated public perceptions on the issue.

    But after the March 15 article was published, we received information suggesting that the stage-effect anecdote is simply not true. So let’s set the record straight.”

  11. freeHat says:

    Think it’s important to note that NRK is state owned and run-the equivalent of the BBC in the UK.

  12. gallopingcamel says:

    rgbatduke notes that a doubling of CO2 increases the growth rate of C4 plants by 41%.

    Thus Mike Mann’s tree rings studies may have nothing to do with temperature:

    Does that prove Bill Nye is smarter than Mikey?

  13. mogur2013 says:

    Relly? Well, svyxj y065oldd8 d7ax xiwb707

  14. ren says:

    Per week it gets warmer in the eastern US, colder in the west (snow). In Canada the snow. In Europe snow.
    In Maryland will spring.

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