Romm Goes Arctic Deep Stupid, Again

Really, Joe.

“Examination of several proxy records (e.g., sediment cores) of sea ice indicate ice-free or near ice-free summer conditions for at least some time during the period of 15,000 to 5,000 years ago”

– Dr. Walt Meier, NSIDC

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/14/nsidcs-dr-walt-meier-part-2/

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10 Responses to Romm Goes Arctic Deep Stupid, Again

  1. Dave N says:

    OK.. so I decided to bite the bullet and visit Climate Retrogress (for the first time in a while) so I could find out what wRommg means by “recent”. Has the article disappeared, because I couldn’t find it.

    Usually I just totally ignore Joe, but this claim piqued my curiosity.

      • Dave N says:

        I found it posted on September 8th:

        http://climateprogress.org/2010/09/08/arctic-sea-ice-history-paleoclimate-polar-amplification/

        Though a link to that article was inside the one on top, thanks.

        Leonid Polyak, of Ohio State’s Byrd Polar Research Center:

        “To be conservative, the closest candidate is the early Holocene (roughly ~10 kyr ago), when the insolation in the Arctic was high due to the beneficial orbital configuration; however, the more data I see, the stronger is my impression that there was not that little ice at that time. The next best (actually, better) candidate is the Last Interglacial, about 125kyr ago, again due to orbitally-driven high insolation: the ice was likely very low, but we can’t say whether it was completely ice free in summer or not”

  2. Here’s some science Mr. Romm:

    A peer-reviewed paper published in the Canadian Journal of Earth Sciences finds that Arctic sea ice extent at the end of the 20th century was more extensive than most of the past 9000 years. The paper also finds that Arctic sea ice extent was on a declining trend over the past 9000 years, but recovered beginning sometime over the past 1000 years and has been relatively stable and extensive since.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/09/23/surprise-peer-reviewed-study-says-current-arctic-sea-ice-is-more-extensive-than-most-of-the-past-9000-years/

  3. Mike Davis says:

    LAZ:
    I found another source for research articles that show your reference paper is less than POND SCUM!
    http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/09/ward-hunt-ice-shelf-stratigraphy/
    Excerpt:
    The driftwood pieces located back of the present Ellesmere Island ice shelf with ages varying from 3000 to 6120 years could not have arrived at their present positions in the presence of the ice shelf and therefore give a maximum age for the beginning of the ice shelf. Although this driftwood could most easily have been brought in during a period of an open or nearly open Arctic Ocean, sample 261A with an age of only 980 years was most likely deposited when the Arctic Ocean was ice-covered. (p 43). … Thick growths of ice, of which T3 [an ice island] is a remnant, probably began in Yelverton Bay about 5500 years ago and in the vicinity of Ward Hunt Island about 3000 years ago

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