Debunker Of The Year Strikes Again

In order to cover up NASA data tampering, Media Matters accused me of being a birther and cited their most respected debunker of skeptics.

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This is the article they linked to which they used to accuse me of being a “birther.”

Birthers are defined as believers in acrackpot conspiracy theory claiming that Obama was born in Kenya.

The first well documented birthers are from 1991, when Obama’s literary agents promoted him as being born in Kenya.

1991

Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii’

A History Of Birthers | Real Science

So I wrote an article criticizing birthers, and from that they determined that I am a birther. Then they accused me of being a conspiracy theorist for showing how data has been tampered with.

They must be desperate to cover up something.

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61 Responses to Debunker Of The Year Strikes Again

  1. Oh, Watts. Poor, deluded bastard.

  2. gregole says:

    His mother was an Anthropologist? I didn’t know.

    • gregole says:

      Oh, in the interest of clarifying my above remark, “…was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American Anthropologist and a Kenyan Finance Minister…”

      I was referring to Obama’s mother’s status as an Anthropologist – just didn’t know of her profession status. Interesting. Anthropologist. Wow.

  3. SMS says:

    Letting the President hang himself with his own rope does not make anyone a birther.

    I would also like to remind everyone who reads this blog post that 1934 is the warmest year on record. Steve McIntyre found a problem with the GISS temperature code back in 2007 which put 1934 ahead of 1998 as far as hottest year ever. Following his revelation, the folks at GISS just used a different software program to deliver 1998 back to the hottest year on record. Making 1998 the hottest year on record was important to GISS and they were going to do what ever it took to make it so, even if it meant “fudging”. http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/11/y2k-re-visited/

    • I want to remind everybody that the US is only 2% of the surface of earth so it’s only local. Now the Arctic, that covers 4% of the earth’s surface, so it’s global.

      Let’s try to remember the difference between local and global in the future, ok?

      • Tel says:

        FOX News made the very specific claim “1934 Hottest Year on Record in U.S.” That’s the claim Media Matters were attempting to debunk, percent of Earth’s surface is irrelevant.

        PunditFact, a project of Politifact, rated Doocy’s claim “Pants on Fire” false, noting that “[a]ll of the experts we reached or whose work we read rejected Goddard’s conclusions

        Really? In one minute of searching I found none other than James Hansen claiming (back in 1999, link below) that Goddard’s conclusion is perfectly correct, and it’s on the NASA website!

        PunditFact couldn’t find that, or they were unable to read?

      • SMS says:

        The point of the comment was to show that there has been significant manipulation of the surface temperature record. The fact that it was US data was well established in the article, and in the link. It would have been more appropriate (for you) to discuss the point of the comment which was the blatant manipulation of the surface temperature record.

        The US being only 2% of the Earth’s surface is true; but it also has one of the better temperature histories (when not manipulated). If you take out UHI, data manipulation and an understanding of the PDO oscillation; you can only conclude that CAGW is a myth.

      • JP says:

        True. But, the US accounts for almost 50% of the reporting stations that make up GISS, and HardCrut data sets.

  4. ossqss says:

    I believe until about 2009/10 or so, 1934 did hold the record. I remember watching it swept away with adjustments. Just sayin,,,,,,

    That was after the change in TCHP was implemented for us also. That was in 2008 I think.

    http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/cyclone/data/method.html

  5. There is a practical limit as to how much reality can be adjusted with acceptance by the population. We’re not quite there yet but opinion polls continue to show public support for CAGW theory is waning, despite the hyping efforts.

  6. Tel says:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/25/do-we-care-if-2010-is-the-warmist-year-in-history/

    For quite a few years, there’s been some question over whether 1934 was the warmest year on record in the USA. Not something mentioned for the first time in 2014. NASA GISS has been mucking around with adjustments for at least the last 15 years.

    Just happened that in 2014 Media Matters woke up to this for the first time.

  7. Tel says:

    http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/

    How can the absence of clear climate change in the United States be reconciled with continued reports of record global temperature? Part of the “answer” is that U.S. climate has been following a different course than global climate, at least so far. Figure 1 compares the temperature history in the U.S. and the world for the past 120 years. The U.S. has warmed during the past century, but the warming hardly exceeds year-to-year variability. Indeed, in the U.S. the warmest decade was the 1930s and the warmest year was 1934. Global temperature, in contrast, had passed 1930s values by 1980 and the world has warmed at a remarkable rate over the last 25 years.

    So James Hansen apparently did believe that 1934 was warmest year in the USA, at least he once used to believe that.

  8. Tel says:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/29/noaas-temperature-control-knob-for-the-past-the-present-and-maybe-the-future-july-1936-now-hottest-month-again/

    Anthony Watts did his own analysis, independently of Steve Goddard, and also came to a conclusion that dodgy adjustments are happening with 1934 probably being the hottest year in the US but the data is so badly mangled no one knows any more. He also said this:

    This constant change from year to year of what is or is not the hottest month on record for the USA is not only unprofessional and embarrassing for NOAA, it’s bullshit of the highest order. It can easily be solved by NOAA stopping the unsupportable practice of adjusting temperatures of the past so that the present looks different in context with the adjusted past and stop making data for weather stations that have long since closed.

    NOAA has been accused by others of “fabricating” data, and while that is a strong word that I don’t like to use, it looks to be more and more accurate.

    That said, I don’t believe this is case where somebody purposely has their hand on a control knob for temperature data, I think all of this is nothing more than artifacts of a convoluted methodology and typical bureaucratic blundering. As I’ve always said, never attribute malice to what can be explained by simple incompetence.

    We already showed yesterday that NOAA can’t get their output data files correct, and we are waiting on a statement and a possible correction for that. But I think the problem is even larger than that, and will require an investigation from an unbiased outside source to get to the root of the problem.

    So Media Matters can’t even read Anthony Watts’ website, which is right there for anyone to look at. They are just absolutely full of it.

    • Beale says:

      [W]e are waiting on a statement and a possible correction for that.

      I predict that it will be a long wait, like, maybe, forever.

  9. omanuel says:

    One of these days your sense of humor is going to get you into trouble!

    Stalin’s team of geophysicists have been in total control of planet Earth since 1945. They even saved the whole world from nuclear annihilation! If you don’t believe it, just ask them.

  10. Charles Nelson says:

    Media Matters doesn’t matter.

  11. gator69 says:

    “… contrary to NASA’s current data,[1]”

    1. (Past temperatures subject to change, check with your local grantologist)

  12. hannuko says:

    Wasn’t Media Matters just a channel through which to propagate official White House talking points to the rest of the media?

    • Gail Combs says:

      It looks like Tony has hit the big time. He is being targeted by David Brock the self-described right-wing hitman-turned-Clinton enforcer. Brock turned from being a right leaning journalist and author, to a Clinton ass-kisser when researching a book on Hillary Clinton. Makes you wonder what he found and how they put pressure on him. CLINTON BODY COUNT

      According to WIKI
      ” Media Matters for America (MMfA) is a politically progressive[1] media watchdog group that is “dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media”

      David Brock is an American journalist and author, the founder of the entertainment group Media Matters for America….
      Shift to the left
      Brock surprised conservatives by publishing a somewhat sympathetic biography of Hillary Clinton, titled The Seduction of Hillary Rodham….

      Brock said that he had reached a turning point: he had thoroughly examined charges against the Clintons, could not find any evidence of wrongdoing and did not want to make any more misleading claims. Brock further said that his former friends in right-wing politics shunned him because Seduction did not adequately attack the Clintons. He also argued that his “friends” had not really been friends at all because of the open secret that Brock was gay.[6]

      In July 1997, Brock published a confessional piece in Esquire magazine titled “Confessions of a Right-Wing Hit Man,” in which he recanted much of what he said in his two best-known American Spectator articles and criticized his own reporting methods.[7][8] Discouraged at the reaction his Hillary Clinton biography received, he said, “I . . . want out. David Brock the Road Warrior of the Right is dead.”

      Writing again for Esquire in April 1998, Brock apologized to Clinton for his contributions to Troopergate, calling it simply part of an anti-Clinton crusade.[2] He told a more detailed story of his time inside the right wing in his 2002 memoir, Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative, in which he settled old scores and provided inside details about the Arkansas Project’s efforts to bring down Clinton…..
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brock

      Another source: POLITICO

      In a major power play that aligns liberal muscle more fully behind the Democratic Party — and Hillary Clinton — the self-described right-wing hitman-turned-Clinton enforcer David Brock is taking over a leading watchdog group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

      Brock was elected chairman of the group’s board last week after laying out a multifaceted expansion intended to turn the group into a more muscular — and likely partisan — attack dog, according to sources familiar with the move.

      The ambitious plans, which began being implemented this week, also seem to cement Brock’s role as among the leading big money operatives in all of American politics.

      Brock confirmed the basics of the shakeup in an interview. The reconfigured CREW, which is searching for a new executive director, will add a more politically oriented arm, expand its focus into state politics and donor targeting and will operate in close coordination with Brock’s growing fleet of aggressive Democrat-backing nonprofits and super PACs — Media Matters, American Bridge and the American Independent Institute.

      “CREW gives us some potentially powerful tools in the tool box,” said Brock, who founded his flagship organization Media Matters in 2004. “We have been in the accountability for 10 years very successfully. It is kind of a one-stop-shop now.”

      And Brock’s army will be supplemented still further by the formation of a new overtly partisan watchdog group called The American Democracy Legal Fund, which is already preparing complaints against high-profile Republicans, including Michigan GOP Senate candidate Terry Lynn Land. That group will be run by Brad Woodhouse, the president of American Bridge, and will be registered under section 527 of the Tax Code — allowing it to engage in more political activity than CREW’s traditional portfolio. CREW has operated as a nonprofit registered under a section of the Tax Code — 501(c)3 — that prohibits partisan activity; under Brock’s leadership it will add a new more politically oriented arm registered under section 501(c)4.

      • Gail Combs says:

        If you wonder about how Brock, could be ‘turned’ think Herman Cain and Sandusky at Penn State or the BBC scandal. Brock is gay.

        One of the downsides of the elite and their pets having a free pass when it comes to prosecution for their crimes, is it leaves a giant lever that can be used to control them

        • philjourdan says:

          Brock is gay? Is Ed Schultz?

          Sorry, I do not buy that (the gay part being a factor). Those who are “turned” seek nothing more than acceptance from the media. It is easy to go along. It is harder to maintain integrity when it is not in vogue. The left has no monopoly on spineless individuals.

        • Gail Combs says:

          Phil,
          He was Right wing. In the January 1994, issue of The American Spectator, Brock, published a story about Bill Clinton’s time as governor of Arkansas that made the accusations that launched ‘Troopergate’. Among other things, the story contained the first printed reference to Paula Jones, referring to a woman named “Paula” who state troopers said offered to be Clinton’s partner. Jones called Brock’s account of her encounter with Clinton “totally wrong,” and she later sued Clinton for sexual harassment. OOPS! – Seem Brock might have made an enemy of the Clintons over that.

          A couple years later he receives a $1 million advance from ‘conservative-focused’ Simon & Schuster’s and a one-year deadline for a book on Hillary Clinton. It is when researching that book he suddenly switches sides.
          From WIKI:

          …Brock said that he had reached a turning point: he had thoroughly examined charges against the Clintons, could not find any evidence of wrongdoing and did not want to make any more misleading claims. Brock further said that his former friends in right-wing politics shunned him because Seduction did not adequately attack the Clintons. He also argued that his “friends” had not really been friends at all because of the open secret that Brock was gay.[6]
          [6] ^ Bruni, Frank (2002-03-24). “Sorry About That”. The New York Times. Retrieved 2009-03-11.
          http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/24/books/sorry-about-that.html

          From the New York Times Article (yeah, I know)

          …As he tells it, he lurched to the right during his student days at the University of California, Berkeley, where he encountered the left’s sometimes oppressive political correctness. His new political affiliation was cemented by his desire to be accepted by a tightly bound circle, which was what he found when he went to Washington and began to mingle with conservatives there. Failing to grasp that their bellicose certainty was simply a mirror image of what he despised among liberals, Brock relished and embraced it, a decision he attributes partly — and in a manner that is perhaps too pat — to his homosexuality.

          ”After all, I was in the closet, alienated from myself, and I was also a social misfit,” Brock writes, adding, ”The apocalyptic ‘us versus them’ paradigm was gratifying, for it held out the promise of assuaging my insecurities and giving me a sense of finally belonging.”…

          So according to that ‘quote’ he was in the closet while writing for the right.

          The second question is while Brock is claiming he found out the Clinton’s are lily white what else was happening?
          The time line suggest he had his epiphany in 1997/1998.
          Reporter Apologizes For Clinton Sex Article”. CNN. March 10, 1998
          So what was happening during the time Brock was investigating the Clintons for his book?

          In June of 1995, the CIA learned that China had stolen the crown jewels of our nuclear arsenal, including the neutron bomb and the W-88 miniaturized warhead. Later that year National Security Advisor Anthony Lake is briefed on the thefts. He is replaced on the Security Council by Sandy Berger, a former lobbyist for the Chinese government. In June of 1996, before Bill Clinton’s re-election, the FBI opens a formal investigation into the theft of US nuclear weapon designs.

          Proof of China’s military intentions came in March of 1996, on the eve of Taiwan’s first democratic elections. China used the threat of force to intimidate the island nation into electing a pro-Beijing candidate. Military maneuvers included bombing runs and launching ballistic missiles that impacted within twenty miles of Taiwan. When the US sent an aircraft carrier into the Taiwan Straits, a Chinese general threatened to “rain down nukes upon Los Angeles”.

          In 1997, news of the campaign finance scandal reached the press. Clinton claimed he was “appalled” to learn he had received illegal contributions from China. As the Justice Department began investigating, over one hundred suspects fled the country or refused to testify. Despite FBI recommendations and congressional protests, Janet Reno refused to appoint an independent counsel.
          Chasing the Dragon: Clinton’s China Policy

          Something happened to Brock while Brock was gathering data to write that book on Hillary and I very much think his changing side was probably because he was given a choice he could not refuse. Remember at the same time “over one hundred suspects fled the country or refused to testify.” I think Brock might have stumbled onto something the Clintons wanted buried really really deep. Brock was a bit too high profile at the time AND INVESTIGATING the Clintons. Also it was a time when there were a lot of question marks about the Clintons so he was made an ‘offer’

        • philjourdan says:

          Gail, I did not contend he was NOT right wing. I merely disagreed with the reason for his conversion.

        • Gail Combs says:

          Phil, I am not saying that being gay had anything to do with it expect as a possible lever esp. if his partners were underage. Pure speculation on my part. However a Honeypot is a well known way of trapping and blackmailing reluctant informers/spies. Given the looks of Reid, it may have been a lot more straight forward. Or it may have just been $$$$ offered, although with a million book advance he certainly wasn’t hurting.

          I would however consider a conversion based on the viewing of facts as a distant possibility.

        • philjourdan says:

          Agreed, FAR Distant.

      • nielszoo says:

        Brock, Bwa ha ha self proclaimed ha hee haa right tee hee ha ho leaning journalist? Ohhh oooh argh… my stomach hurts.

      • philjourdan says:

        Ed Schultz’s successor.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Then there is the funding:

      Media Matters for America (MMfA) is an IRS tax-exempt 501(c)(3) organization that purports to document supposed conservative media bias. Media Matters Action Network (MMAN) is the affiliated 501(c)(4) organization that is the advocacy arm of MMfA.

      Media Matters original goal was to serve as a “fact-checker” that focused on conservative media programming. But in practice, the organization primarily criticizes the opinions of Rush Limbaugh and the hosts and guests of Fox News Channel. MMfA was particularly focused Glenn Beck and was credited with leading the campaign to remove the host from Fox News airwaves…..

      Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals
      RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

      RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

      ….Because MMFA is a non-profit organization, it is not required to disclose its donors, and it does not do so. However, some donors have self-disclosed, while others, such as foundations and labor unions, must make certain filings that discloses their funding of Media Matters and other similar groups.

      MMfA’s funders range from labor unions to progressive foundations to liberal billionaires. From fiscal year 2009 to 2012, the National Education Association (NEA) has contributed $400,000 ($100,000 per year) to Media Matters. MMfA has received an additional $185,000 from other labor organizations since 2005, making labor unions some of the largest known contributors to Media Matters. MMfA has directly quoted these labor groups and has defended them against “attacks” from reporters and media personalities. MMfA did not disclose these donations in its reporting on labor unions.

      MMfA has received nearly $30 million from foundations since it started. The Tides Foundation is the largest contributors to MMfA and MMAN, giving nearly $4.4 million. There are undoubtedly close ties between the organizations besides financial support. MMfA frequently reports on the critics of Tides, but fails to mention that the foundation is MMfA’s largest donor. The line between Tides and MMfA is so blurry that even donors appear to be confused. In 2003, prior to the official launch of MMfA, the Stephen M. Silberstein Foundation even designated a $100,000 contribution to “Tides Foundation – Media Matters for America.”

      Billionaire George Soros donated $1 million to Media Maters in October 2010. According to the New York Times, Soros donated the money to help MMfA respond to the “incendiary rhetoric” of Fox News Channel commentators….

      I do not think there can be any question that the Progressives are fully behind the CAGW Con Job and that Media Matters is just a Progressive Attack Dog.

      • Gail Combs says:

        Link for the above quote: https://www.activistfacts.com/organizations/media-matters-for-america/

        The Rockefeller Foundations (there are several) biggest donations go to the Tides Foundation per the old website ActivistCash.com Tides is a Money Laundering outfit that cuts the money trail between the donor and recipient so you can’t find out who is actually funding Media Matters or Friends of Earth or whoever.

        activistcash.com has become activistfacts and now some of the details are missing.

        Here is one of the Rockefeller foundations: https://www.activistfacts.com/foundation/166-RockefellerBrothersFund/

      • gregole says:

        Gail,
        Thanks the background on “Media Matters”. A tangled web of lies and fabrications indeed! I would be surprised if anyone other than Progressive Partisans pay it any attention.

        I used to read a little of the MSM before Climategate 1.0 – I subscribed to Newsweek; Sci Am, Pop Sci and read a little more; oh, I stopped watching TV as a teenager. I just like to read and many of those magazines at least are nicely written and illustrated.

        But I really expected MSM to do something on Climategate and was just getting into Climate blogs back then so was keeping up with the debate and the facts on the ground. I read Fuller and Mosh’s book (I still have a soft spot in my heart for Mosh because of that book!) and read numerous other books on the topic and on the topic of energy, environment, meteorology, even a supposed Climatology textbook – it was horribly vague and badly written and I tossed it; I wish I hadn’t so I could remember it’s title – it was published by Oxford University Press though.

        Anyhow, I was eagerly awaiting MSM to blow the lid off on all the Climate scandals; this was back in 2009 with the Copenhagen debacle and all and really expected someone in MSM to take the ball and run with it. Crickets.

        And that’s when I woke up. I realized the entire MSM were simply burying the story – burying the story of the most extensive scientific fraud in history. I began the process of cancelling (actually failing to renew…) all my subscriptions to magazines. If they were (and are) hiding the truth of Climategate, what other lies were they spreading? What else were they hiding?

        Today I only subscribe to The American Conservative. I read blogs and check the numbers as best I can. Back a couple of years ago I started logging local temperatures myself. I suspend judgement on anything I can’t personally check.

        When I stumble upon things like someone posting on Facebook Bernie Sanders’ (!) warning on out-of-control heating from Man-Made CO2; I realize the person is just a Progressive sympathizer, uninformed, uninterested in empirical facts, and being duped. People, generally, are not too bright – and that includes me! I forgive them that; but once they buy into a particular mythology like leftist Progressivism to their ignorance add close-mindedness.

        It appears this outfit “Media Matters” is about as concerned with facts and truth as B.S. is concerned with climate. Ignorant, biased, propaganda, PR, nonsense.

        Steven is a courageous soul to take on these frauds. It is simply amazing how pervasive the untruth is.

        • Gail Combs says:

          We were sold the bill of goods that the ‘Free Press’ was our watch dog for political corruption. However the MSM is not a ‘Free Press’ it was bought in 1915 by the J.P. Morgan interests and has remained the propaganda arm of the elite ever since.

          Blogs have become the new ‘Free Press’ so the elite are trying to slide in ‘regulation’ which will no doubt evolve into outright censorship.

          Remember how we were sold NPR as a ‘neutral news media’ yet NPR has now become the propaganda outlet of the Progressives? The same as it is in the UK and Australia?

          Now Congress is floating ‘Net Neutrality’ bills. A bill is often named to mislead the public, so these bills are probably not about neutrality. I haven’t had the time to dig into the bills but at this point I figure anything coming out of DC esp under Obama is toxic to the general public.

          Remember Paul Warburg’s famous words.
          When Warburg’s associates said, “Paul, what are you doing? We don’t want those in there this is our bill.” about provisions which seriously restricted the ability of the Federal Reserve to create money out of nothing. His response was this, he said, “Relax fellas, don’t you get it? Our object is to get the bill passed. We can fix it up later.”

          The Federal Reserve Act has been amended over 100 times. All those provisions that Warburg’s associates protested have long since been ‘fixed’ and now the ‘reserve’ is effectively zero.

        • rah says:

          People need to question things. Like asking what was the reason for the rise of the “Fact Checkers” in the first place? What void are they supposed to have filled after we got along without them for centuries? Leaving out the possible nefarious reasons, of which there are several, the only other possible reason they could have come into being in the first place is because the media does not do it’s job and has lost the credibility to persuade people that it is doing it’s job. IOW if the media were trusted and did do true journalism then there would never have been a void to fill by the “Fact Checkers”.

        • Gail Combs says:

          rah, Fact Checkers funded by the elite is a response to the fact checking done by the independent blogs just like Skeptical Science was an elite funded response to independent ‘Denier’ blogs.

          Note how they are always trying to say conservatives/skeptics are funded by ‘Big Oil’ by the Koch brothers or what ever when it is they who are the real Astroturf.

  13. B says:

    When there is no argument that can be supported with fact, attack the person by any means necessary. Because most people feel rather than think and are lazy they won’t do any checking of their own it works.

    It’s not like it’s difficult to check what Tony has spotted and brought to our attention. Anyone can do it. The brilliance was in spotting it in the first place, but checking isn’t difficult and thus if anything were factually incorrect it would be a trivial exercise to expose it.

  14. Stephen Richards says:

    The more they shout about you the more the inquisitive will search.

  15. Lazlo says:

    Watts is rapidly becoming the poster boy of the alarmists regarding the surface temperature record. He really needs to come out very strongly to stop the narrative about him spreading. These people have no scruples – you need to fight fire with fire.

    As for ‘fabrication’, all this word means is that NOAA, BoM, etc are substituting man-made (fabricated) data for real data. It is an established fact (thanks Steve) that they are doing this, and Watts needs to come out loud and clear to denounce it.

    Scientifically, there is never a good reason to ‘adjust’ the data. The data is what the data is, and there is no accepted scientific method for making it ‘higher quality’.

    You are dealing with seriously green/left academics/scientists here who have no adherence to scientific rationalism. It is all about the cause. They are also very low grade intellects.

    • omanuel says:

      You are dealing with remnants of Stalin’s 1945 geophysicist allies that now dominate our most prestigious research universities – The Enrico Fermi Institute at the University of Chicago, the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory at Harvard University, NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory at CalTech, NASA’s Lunar Science Institute at the Johnson Manned Spacecraft Center, etc., etc.

      They invented superheavy element fission in meteorites, interstellar dust grains in meteorites, a nearby supernova explosion, primordial Ne-A, Ne-B, Ne-C, Ne-D, Ne-E, etc.in meteorites to hide experimental evidence the Sun itself:

      1. Made our chemical elements
      2. Birthed the solar system 5 Ga ago
      3. Sustained the origin and evolution of life on Earth after 3.5 Ga ago
      4. Still controls every atom, life and world in the entire Solar System today, . . .

      a volume of space >> the combined volumes of 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 Earth’s

      • Lazlo says:

        Yes, modern Physics is a complete scam. But they are not suggesting that the UN rule the world, just that we allow them to play with very big toys..

  16. philjourdan says:

    It is media matters – they could not tell the truth if it was the only story in town.

  17. Gail Combs says:

    Steve seems you have picked up another troll. He is trying to have the last word on the Dr Gray thread. If I recall Icarus made a pain in the neck of himself over at WUWT and then disappeared. Logic was not his long suit. Pushing CAGW propaganda agains all odds is.

  18. Gail Combs says:

    O/T
    It seems our good friend, Democratic Leader Harry Reid spent the night in the hospital after an accident while exercising at home. He supposedly suffered broken ribs, and broken facial bones in the ‘exercising accident’ A gym enthusiast on another board mentioned the injuries are not at all consistent with an exercise accident.

    HMMMmmm, seems a ‘partner’ in his scrubbed BLM land/solar farm deal might have gotten a wee bit angry. Especially now that the Congress is Republican and Reid has lost his power seat.

    Yeah, a SWAG but broken ribs and a broken face sure sound more like mob thugs working a guy over than an ‘exercising accident’

  19. gofer says:

    Why have democrats tried so hard to remove natural born citizen requirement? They also ignore the citations from the SCOTUS that has defined it and continue to say that it has never been defined by the judicary.

    “The effort to remove the natural-born citizen requirement from the U.S. Constitution actually began in 1975 – when Democrat House Rep. Jonathon B. Bingham, [NY-22] introduced a constitutional amendment underH.J.R. 33: which called for the outright removal of the natural-born requirement for president found in Article II of the U.S. Constitution – “Provides that a citizen of the United States otherwise eligible to hold the Office of President shall not be ineligible because such citizen is not a natural born citizen.”

    Bingham’s first attempt failed and he resurrected H.J.R. 33: in 1977 under H.J.R. 38:, again failing to gain support from members of congress. Bingham was a Yale Law grad and member of the secret society Skull and Bones, later a lecturer at Columbia Law and thick as thieves with the United Nations via his membership in the Council on Foreign Relations.

    Bingham’s work lay dormant for twenty-six years when it was resurrected again in 2003 as Democrat members of Congress made no less than eight (8) attempts in twenty-two (22) months, to either eliminate the natural-born requirement, or redefine natural-born to accommodate Barack Hussein Obama II in advance of his rise to power. The evidence is right in the congressional record…”

    http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html#Supreme

  20. gofer says:

    A Congressional Natural Born Citizen Parts I, II & III: Who Knew What & For How Long?
    The “Congressional” Natural Born Citizen Part I : A ‘Tribe’-ute to DC Liberal Activism

    https://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/a-congressional-natural-born-citizen-parts-i-ii-iii/#comments

  21. MrX says:

    Media Matters is a left wing conspiracy site to rile up liberals. Not sure why you’d pay attention to it.

  22. stpaulchuck says:

    Media Matters about as much as Black Lives Matter.

  23. au1corsair says:

    Part of the Big Lie technique is linking the accused to people who are hated already.

    So when will these neo-Nazis slam Tony for being part of the Jewish conspiracy?

    Already slammed for being a Big Oil shill, there’s always the option of accusing Tony of being a homophobic closet gay.

    If I’m not making sense here, you’ve got the idea. Throw things against the wall. Throw ANYTHING against the wall. Some of it will stick–even though the target is innocent.

    So, when will Tony be accused of being a logging industry shill?

  24. Centinel2012 says:

    Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:
    Virtually everything they do is a scam or propaganda so they have no real options other than personal attacks when they are good at.

  25. Dave N says:

    “They must be desperate to cover up something.”

    ..or they’re just stupid; or both.

    • omanuel says:

      Climategate has expanded to expose corruption in the very top rungs of the geophysics scientific community community and TWO LIES inserted in the foundation of the Standard Solar Model and the Standard Nuclear Model immediately after the United Nations was formed on 24 OCT 1945:

      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/WHY.pdf

      The lies were designed to prevent public knowledge that – Neutron Repulsion – the energy that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki from cores of U-235 and Pu-239 on 6 AUG 1945 and 9 AUG 1945 is also the energy in the core of the Sun that:
      1. Made our chemical elements
      2. Birthed the solar system five billion years (5 Ga) ago
      3. Sustained the origin and evolution of life on Earth after 3.5 Ga ago, and
      4. Still maintains control of every atom, life and world in the solar system today, . . .

      a volume of space greater than the combined volumes of ten billion, billion (10,000,000,000,000,000,000) Earth’s !

      See: “Solar energy,” Advances in Astronomy (submitted 1 Sept 2014) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/Solar_Energy.pdf

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