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Wow. Just…wow.
I wonder what causes that sort of brain damage.
How about:
“And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, the women must never leave home unarmed, and must be prepared to shoot the bastards dead if necessary.”
Customs on both sides can be respected. Like this example from Imperial Rule over India.
“A story for which Charles James Napier is often noted involved Hindu priests complaining to him about the prohibition of Sati by British authorities. This was the custom of burning a widow alive on the funeral pyre of her husband. As first recounted by his brother William, he replied:
“Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs.”
I wonder what the Medieval Viking Custom regarding convicted rapists might entail?
British colonial rule was the best seen since Rome. Pity it vanished from the earth.
Dr. Wikan’s position may be more complex. The citation below is only from Wikipedia as I don’t have the time to consult original sources but I’d distill it down to these points:
1) Norwegian social policy towards immigrants from primitive cultures is stupid and it will produce predictable results.
2) Norwegian women should not invite horny men from primitive cultures home unless they want to have sex with horny men from primitive cultures.
3) Wikan has empathy for horny immigrant men from primitive cultures who don’t get laid in Norway.
I agree with items 1) and 2). I understand Wikan’s item 3) and my position on the barbaric customs of primitive cultures is identical to that of General Sir Charles James Napier (as mentioned above by Andy Mirlach). The problem is, of course, that Western Civilization abandoned its own national customs in its Progressive legislation and governing but that is a predicament of our own making.
I’m so old I can remember back when it was the worst sort of evil to say that women shouldn’t dress like sluts.
In the demented world of the affluent western lefty middle classes all religion is pugnacious unless it isn’t western Christianity.
All criminals are victims of the state unless white ones accused of rape and racism
Only white men can rape with the rest of the world its a cultural issue that we should respect.
All animals especially Foxes have a right to live
However all fox loving woman have the right to abort and kill their babies.
In the mad world of the loopy generally white western lefties ,only the human caused 80ppm of total co2 which in itself only represents about 5% of all greenhouse gases and then as if by magic became the only driver of 20/21st century climate change which as of yet nobody has been able to prove its changed,
It reminds me of when I was a kid and would sometimes -if a marvel comic wasn’t available would buy the odd DC superman issue and one particular storyline was ‘Bizzaro world’ where everything was the total opposite of what it should be so therefore a manifesto for the barmy west.
I was a peripheral member of the UK Workers Revolutionary Party for years and I can attest that lefty middle class female idiots like the Unni (bomber) Wiccaman and thespians like Vanessa Redgrave who was a leading member of the WRP with her even more nutty brother Corin -now deceased) are all tarred with the same brush. Western privilege which they despise butt cannot give up like their three or four homes but they still set out to thrash themselves with birch leaves, but the cunningly protect their backs by usually wearing a white hard working person who never breaks the law or expects state hand-outs. You see in the eyes of the western lunatic left these people iare the lowest of the low as they oppress drug addicts, alcoholics, layabouts, criminals and foreigners
So am I but you don’t have to be old. It was still the rage as of last year. Can one of our resident Progressives give us guidance on the most advanced Feminist thought on womyn’s attire?
Should womyn dress like sluts to revolt against bigoted Christians who criticize them for it or cover up to soothe sensitive Muslims so they don’t rape them for it?
There’s no good reason we can’t have it both ways. I, for one, can’t wait to get blamed for a bunch of sluts being raped by hard-working asian immigrants. “If you hadn’t posted a comment on a weblog while being white, they wouldn’t have been forced to wear those ridiculous outfits that then forced those helpless moose limbs to humiliate their genitals.”
Stark, I appreciate you giving it a shot but I’d like to hear from a bona-fide, card-carrying Progressive. I know they are lurking out there.
Where is Bob Maginnis of the Oregon Progressive Party?
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/07/05/progressives-trashing-us-history/#comment-384309
There was a painted lady in a recent thread.
Ah, the one with the war paint. Yes, she would know.
Basically all Swedish woman better wear burka’s
I used to think this was called blame the woman….where no means, I cant hear you, and frankly I dont care.
Best way to get rid of Moslems. Have women cops walk around in miniskirts and provoke the slime balls, arrest them for attempted rape, and then punish them with their own Sharia Law.
You forget that under Sharia, the men might be punished, might not. The female cop would be the more serious offender and would be flogged just for dressing that way. If she caused men to try and rape her or actually rape her, it would be cause to stone her to death. I just read of one recently where a woman was stoned because she was gang raped. It is truly screwed up, that “religion of peace”.
Nobody is going to stone the cop, for christ sakes
Nobody is going to stone the cops? Darren Wilson was investigated–twice–for letting himself be beaten by Mike Brown. Darren Wilson was dressed provocatively (wearing a police uniform) and DARED to tell an intoxicated Mike Brown to stop staggering down the middle of a street where motor vehicles were being driven!
I think I solved the Sharia problem with women cops, Niel.
Have men cops impersonating women cops walk around in miniskirts and provoke the slime balls! If Shakespeare could do it, why not we?
Just an FYI. I was trying to find the original source, and she might have been paraphrased poorly. Maybe intentionally. Maybe she did say the quote attributed to her, but I didn’t find anyone citing an original source for that quote.
Here might be the source, from June 2001. Seemingly being interviewed in response to a reported 40% increase in the number of rapes in Oslo from 1999 to 2000. The page doesn’t translate automatically on Chrome for me, but running the paragraphs through Google Translate gives a different read than the quote, and definitely not the quote, as stated. It is more along the lines that non-western men mistake the friendliness of Norwegian women, so Norwegian women need to be more aware of different cultural expectations. So she advises them against things like inviting one of them home. Get’s a little close to blaming the victim in there, but not as blatantly as has been attributed.
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2001/09/06/279676.html
“It is startling how blind and naive Norwegian women can be to non-Western men. Norwegian women must use common sense says Wikan Dagbladet. Yesterday shock figures show that the number of reported rapes in Oslo has increased by 40 percent from 1999 to 2000.For the first time police have sorted perpetrators by ethnic background. Statistics show that 65 percent of the rape Newsletter comes from non-Western countries.”
“She is aware that she can get criticized for their statements, but believes the debate is important.”
“I will not blame the rapes on the Norwegian women. But Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves accordingly.”
“Unless they have a desire for sex, warns Wikan Norwegian women strongly against inviting home with them such as Muslim men who know little about Norwegian culture.”
Oh, the parts in quotes are as translated by Google Translate. So it is almost 3rd hand, since the original doesn’t actually have things in quotes, so even those might not be literal quotes, but interpretation by the writer, then run through Google Tranlate.
I had a hard time finding a source for it as well.
But it sounds like you’ve nailed it. Of course the source you gave is not in English so that’s getting pretty original. And 2001? I still think it’s totally relevant. Maybe in 2001 it was because women dressed not in Burkas that they flew those planes into our buildings. So lets just bow down to our Muslim superiors and have all women dress in Burkas. That’ll be fun. And sightly.
I hadn’t noted the error in my post before, but the date of the article was September 6, not June 9. So it was 5 days before 9/11, which hadn’t occurred to me. Quite a different world a week later.
Oh by the way, I found it because it was referenced in a blog. Also shows up on Wikipedia for her.
Wow, about the Sept 6th 2001 date. Sounds like maybe if our women had covered up we could have avoided that whole 9-11 thing. /
So “cultural ignorance” is a defence? Oh look, apartheid!
Sweden is a nearby country. With many of the same conflicts and issues.
for instance this story in Swedish Surveyor, which I suppose might be considered cherry-picking
http://swedishsurveyor.com/2015/02/04/eight-swedes-detained-for-gang-rape-on-ferry/
I do not agree with all of Goddard’s politics but the situation in Scandinavia is clearly crazy. It is incredible what liberals there are doing with immigration. what percentage of the total population is coming in per year. And there are actually no-go-zones there. ie: neighborhoods where police and ambulances do not want to go
The left says no-go zones don’t exist. Only local newspapers report this. they can’t be trusted… /sar
As a Viking descendant, I hang my head in shame.
I found this article on the subject quite informative: http://swedishsurveyor.com/2015/03/09/when-journalists-rape/
Dr. Wikan is evil to try to justify the heinous acts committed by Islamic criminals. The nerve of her, to play “blame the victim”!
Didn’t the Vikings come from Norway?
Yep. How many real Norwegians rape and pillage today, vs the fake Norwegians?
Some cultures evolve, others do not.
Maybe I’ve been reading too much Robert E. Howard, but I thought the Vikings were descended from the Russ, & the current Norwegiers are just Danes who moved North & kicked the red-headed fools out.
Not sure about that, but I watched a very interesting documentary on genetics that said Neanderthals did not die out, they were simply absorbed into the gene pool. Testing shows that the only population with zero Neanderthal DNA is the Africans who never left the continent. Northern Europeans have the highest percentage of Neanderthal DNA, and it generally decreases the further south ones ancestors originate. Asians also have Neanderthal DNA.
As an aside, I am blonde haired and blue eyed, a trait that apparently came about around 11,000 years ago, allegedly due to the need of northern tribes to absorb more sunlight for vitamin D production. This makes me newer than polar bears, and given the current human breeding practices (and racial violence), I am much more endangered than the polar bear.
I am willing to take donations, and submit myself to blonde on blonde breeding for the sake of diversity.
You are too trusting of scientists! Do you know who they’ll pair you up with once the donation money runs out and the only approved grant is from the Diversity Department of the Civil Rights Division at the Justice Department?
http://wallpaperswa.com/thumbnails/detail/20121108/blondes%20blue%20eyes%20men%20actors%20daniel%20craig%202560×1440%20wallpaper_wallpaperswa.com_63.jpg
I am seeking private funding, and not a government program.
I understand but the scientists have mortgages to pay. Have a good attorney write the contract.
Besides Gator you know they wouldn’t let you do your breeding the old fashioned way. To straight forward and inexpensive.
Stark,
Other way around. Viking exployers moved east as well as west. They portaged their ships inland and then road the rivers deep into Russia. The first kings were Viking descendants in Kiev. They got as far the Caucasas and Black Sea and were known in Constantinople and Istanbul.
The Rus came from what is now Russia–and they went a Viking when they wanted a good time or something to eat and drink or even a few shiny baubles. Those were the good old days–according to the progressives.
The Russ were forced out by the Mongol hordes. For a while, Islam sought to liberate the Vikings from paganism. All that is past is new again.
Perhaps,
Sophistry and ruminating on such vagaries, Wikan might have arrived at a different and more pragmatic synopsis.
Indeed, did it never occur to Wikan, that, it might have been a much better idea not to have allowed in so many cultural Neanderthals. Men [who are yet] espousing a creed inimical to a nation and society imbued in the Christian tradition and into a modern Westernized society.
Further to the above, could it not be described as the greater sin? A greater perfidy, was allowing said arrivals – to do just as they please and to allow these invaders to form their own imitations of the backwards societies to which they had seemingly escaped from [“escape” -which is the oft’ quoted excuse]?
I think you’ll find the answers in, the Frankfurt School and its maleficent ideology of Political correctness and of course the bane of Western European societies: Multiculturalism.
It is amazing what a neutered mind will rationalize as it struggles to survive.
If only Norway would allow these women to arm themselves they could have the freedom to dress as they please.
Instead they have neither, nor do they have the freedom from transgression on their bodies.
Its only been 260 years since Benjamin Franklin (also allegedly) said “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
As someone who was brought up Irish Catholic, I can promise and assure you that nothing strengthens, re-enforces, invigorates, boosts and enhances a religion like PERSECUTION.
Remove persecution and all religions wilt and fade like the frail and noxious weeds they are.
Sure, some Moslems behave badly, so does every group….but the big mistake is to target the entire sub-group.
A rapist is a rapist. Rapists have always blamed their victims for being provocative.
So Steve, why don’t we drop the general anti-moslem thing, (a media creation – just like global warming) – get the 99.738% of moderate Moslems (who just want to live in peace) integrated and onside. They will deal with their own loony fringe. I promise.
And how do you think Moslems who detest the Global Warming scam feel when they drop by here and see this?
I agree. When them crazy joo doctors switch up the ol’ meds on ya, it can get really hard to stop them xtian dominionist bastards with the knives instead of teeth from writhing around naked in your closet.
Stephen King, right?
Yeah, lets stop the persecution and invite them in; then we can talk about the rapes and the new clothes we need the women to buy, what a good idea,
Seeing as how you’re up on your hind legs with an opinion I’m curious to know what you think should be done about the, white, british, ‘christians’ in the UK Parliament who are currently at the centre of a massive child sex abuse scandal…what should we do about all those fat, rich MPs?
Well , If they claim to be Christian then go all biblical on Their arses , Millstones round necks and depths of the sea , that sort of thing , per Matthew 18:6 and Luke 17:2 , Hell I ‘d go with that as the gold standard treatment for pedophiles regardless of denomination.
Charles Nelson says “Seeing as how you’re up on your hind legs with an opinion I’m curious to know what you think should be done about the, white, british, ‘christians’ in the UK Parliament who are currently at the centre of a massive child sex abuse scandal…what should we do about all those fat, rich MPs?”
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Oh do you mean the Muslim RAPE GANGS in the UK that suppy the girls? Too bad the UK banned guns! A few DEAD RAPISTs of any and all stripes might get the point across, because right now the Politically Correct have declared open season on little girls (and boys.)
For twenty five years it has been Politically Correct to cover-up and CONDONE thousands of rapes by Muslims so what are a few more by the PC whites in authority who condoned the rapes in the first place?
Rotherham 1400 Kids Groomed Drugged and Raped by Multicultural Sensitivity
One Million Child Victims of Muslim Rape Gangs in the U.K.? Can you COMPUTE… 1,000,000 ONE MILLION
Muslim Rape Gangs the Disturbing Role of Britain’s Leading Child Welfare Charity
The Charity was later found to be supplying girls. The head BTW is a Muslim
Islamic Rape Gangs: Rotherham is Just the Tip of the Iceberg
If the UK government has been covering up for the RAPE GANGS for 25 YEARS why ever would you think they aren’t sampling the goods too? It obvious they have no problem with rape isn’t it? It obvious they think the girls DESERVE to be raped, so why shouldn’t they get in on the fun? They KNOW there wil be no news coverage much less arrests…
PEOPLE like you who CONDONE rape make me SICK. And yes that is what you are doing by twisting the conversation to the UK politicians that also rape.
Since when have the serfs had any say in what the Aristocrats do?
We should compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges and leave the straw men to keep off the birds.
he typed, as he looked up from licking his groin.
Sad how rapists are called ‘Christians’ by the delusional hateful left, when the so called ‘Christian’ rapists are going against the teachings and examples of Christ, some (anyone with a brain) might call that dishonest.
But what of Muslims rapists? Are they following the example of Mohammad?
Muslims are encouraged to live in the way of Muhammad, who was a slave owner and trader. He captured slaves in battle. He had sex with his slaves. And he instructed his men to do the same. The Qur’an actually devotes more verses to making sure that Muslim men know they can keep women as sex slaves than it does to telling them to pray five times a day.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/015-slavery.htm
For some, ignorance knows no bounds.
Most Germans weren’t Nazis
Well, maybe, but Charles says that Islam is a frail and noxious weed that’s gonna wilt and fade, and that’s why he wants you to show respect for Moslems so they don’t feel bad when they drop by, and their faith can start wilting and fading.
Or something like that.
The next target of ISIS is Morroco and Spain
http://d3dyqb2m69ozbp.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/The-new-map-of-ISIS.jpg
The Politically Correct Progressives wanting to ally themselves with these monsters tells you a lot about the Progressives doesn’t it?
I think that Charles and few hundred generations of Charles’ have been saying the same thing.
http://www.bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Obama-Bowing-12.jpg
Maybe American women should be forbidden to drive a car too.
Pretend persecution works as well as the real deal to promote an intolerant religion. Perception is reality.
I have to agree–separate Islam from rape gangs and the Western non-Islamic progressive politicians who make excuses for them. The Koran doesn’t excuse rape simply because the woman was vulnerable to being raped (not protected by being locked up and guarded by an army) and slightly more than half of Muslims world-wide are female. The permission to rape is a modern political thing and most of the people excusing rape are non-Islamic politicians.
And that is the real issue here–Western, non-Islamic politicians claiming that a few criminals have the right to rape, pillage, murder and burn because these few are provoked, insulted, and bat-sh*t crazy…
Well said.
You are a fool. These people are not mired in a centuries old book, they’ve updated their MO and are using it again you, against us. They waive the book in one hand and you quiver in faux-respect but what is really fear and with the other hand they use all the features of modernity to their advantage. Wake up, see the world for what it is.
1. You make a lot of promises, Charles.
2. What do you consider to be the foundation stones of the Western Civilization?
3. How do you think Commies and Nazis who detest the Global Warming scam feel when they drop by here and see what Steve says about them?
In Ireland, I witnessed the collapse of the strict/priestly Catholicism myself, in my family, neighbourhood and across the country…I promise. (see Father Ted!)
Here in Australia where I currently reside I have witnessed Moslem Families who seven years ago (when they arrived) were still stuck in their old ways…today they are relaxed and happily enjoying the freedom of being in a civilised society where there is no fear.
True, the women haven’t quite got to stage of casual sex, nudity and drug/alcohol addiction that prevails here…but their daughters will! I promise.
As for Nazis and Commies, as you know they are just the two sides of the same coin and quite rightly nobody gives a ‘fig’ what they think. I promise!
So when do you promise Islam will wilt and fade*) in Islamic countries? What can we do, for example, to end the persecution of Wahhabi Muslims in Saudi Arabia to bring about such wilting and fading?
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*) like the frail and noxious weed it is
Colorado…you don’t have a reply button, but to answer your question.
Islam will wilt and fade when UK/USA stop propping up Saudi Arabia>
Islam will wilt and fade when UK/USA stop destabilising anti clerical regimes like Ghadaffi and Hussein and Syria and Egypt.
Don’t forget. England was a theocracy for 40 years.
40 years of religious rule is usually enough for most folk.
Try reading a little history…it goes a long way!
I promise!
I know, Charles. It’s genetic—I was born without a reply button.
The settings on this blog give everyone a reply button to the 3rd nesting level. After that you need to supply your own buttons.
Now to your thesis:
You told us that Islam will wilt and fade when persecution is removed and now you say that we should not have destabilized anti-clerical regimes like Ghadaffi’s and Hussein’s that persecuted Moslems, and that we should stop propping up Saudi Arabia that promotes Islam.
Yours is clearly a position of such erudition and nuance that I must read more than a little history to grasp its full depth. Persecution of Moslems seems to both strengthen and weaken Islam. The acceptance of Islam makes Moslems both more and less zealous, while it increases and decreases their numbers.
I must also deepen my understanding of anthropogenic global warming that seems to cause both heat waves and cold waves, rain and drought, more snow and less snow, more hurricanes or less hurricanes, etc.
We may have stumbled upon some omnipotent universal force here. I’m afraid to tell you who it may be.
Funny think Charles, see in the 1980s we thought that Levis and hair-metal would be the downfall of the Russian bear and its form of communism. So it seems they got a little distracted for a while, everyone falls for the “look a baby wolf” now and then, but now what? Now they’ve enjoyed a little freedom and brought it into the fold, figured out how to add the new ways to the old and so the bear stirs in its hibernation.
Islam has seen and done this before and will see and do it again. Every few centuries it remembers that it is the one religion and decides to convert the world. After much blood shed they are beaten back. I admit I am no great student of history but it seems that during each of these expansions Islam become chameleon-like, willing to change a bit, modernize a bit for the bigger picture. Then after the blood is let they retreat to their infertile home countries and take it out on their own people for a few more centuries until the wounds heal and the memories fade.
As long as there are few without an Imam telling them what to do they can enjoy the freedom of being in a civilised society.
Charles Nelson says: March 17, 2015 at 1:52 am
Sorry mate, but you’re deluded.
Another Quisling. Just remember that German Jews “caused” Nazi thugs to beat them, murder them, ship them to death factories–and then any Jew in German-occupied Europe and Asia provoked those poor primitive Nazis even when their “Jewishness” was invisible (because one ancestor three or four generations ago had been Jewish and nobody since had practiced that religion).
Simply wearing burkas will not be enough to keep Norwegian women from “provoking” their own rape–and murder. Islamic women are confined to the home under the “protection” of an adult male “relative” who is capable of killing any attacker (legally kill)–and any Islamic woman who cannot call upon this protection is “causing” their own rape, robbery and murder. Islamic women do not vote, do not hold public office–by failure to be an Islamic woman and follow all the unwritten laws controlling the property of Islamic men, “Doctor” Unni Wikan is insulting Islam. Norwegian women can only be “protected” by a strong Islamic male “relative.” Anything else is provocation.
Quisling was a Norwegian politician, after all. Good to see that the old traditions are honored in modern Norway.
Actually, unlike most of Europe, Norway has woken up the the Muslim Menace.
http://conservativetribune.com/norway-deporting-muslims-3/
Just by having more babies they will in the end take over. It is as simple as that. They don’t need terrorism to achieve their goal.
We were warnes once the Muslim population gets to be ~ 10% they quit hiding and show their true colors. Muslims CAN NOT BE FRIENDS with anyone but another Muslim.
Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:
Maybe it would be better to get rid of the Muslim men in Norway!
This reminds me of an old pop ditty:
What we need is a great big melting pot
Big enough to take the world and all its got
And keep it turning for a hundred years or more
And turn out alienated people who can’t score