Oreskes pushes forth a sense of great urgency. “Scientists are worried. We’ve lost 20 years. If this keeps up as we’re going, we’re looking at a 6- to 10-foot rise in the sea level by 2100.”
Harvard Professor, Documentary Take On Climate Change ‘Merchants Of Doubt’ | ARTery
Being a progressive means lying about everything, all the time. The IPCC makes no claims anything like Orsekes is saying, and even wildly bloated CU satellite data shows nothing remotely like her claim.
Actual sea level rise is close to zero.
Ft. Lauderdale 1960
2014
“Being a progressive means lying about everything, all the time.”
Same as with Mohammedans, where lying is excused if it aids their system. And now we know why Progressives have little problem with the butchering Islamic State crowd, they admire them so, emulate them in fact.
This house in Florida was built in 1928….sea level had not changed at all
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/19/26CCB86600000578-3002741-As_well_a_large_main_house_the_island_near_Bokeelia_Florida_also-a-4_1426806765426.jpg
I’m pretty sure that there are tens of thousand of houses built so close to the sea
and none of them was evacuated because of rising sea levels.
(Maybe few will be found ,but reasons are geological activities or at extremly flat beaches(but usually those places are avoided by experience)where the normal rise of sea level floods several yards of beach by every inch the water level rises.)
If sea level rising had increased we would be terrorised by media 24/7 with documentaries about house owners who lost their houses to AGW caused sea level increase.
The absense of those documentaries proves that all is a scam and the more prove the louder they cry and the more they lie.
Fact of the matter is, many plantation homes are now up to a mile away from the coast, when once the were on the water. Reeds, mangroves and marshes tend to trap sediment and debris, which break down and form new ground.
As a descendant of those that settled much of Florida, I do know of what I speak.
Sea level has FALLEN up to 1.5 METERS since the Holocene Highstand 6,000 years ago.
TEN STUDIES PROVING SEA LEVEL HAS NOT RISEN AFTER HOLOCENE OPTIMUM
As usual the ClimAstrologists are nattering on about noise and not climate.
Glacier melt and wonderful lake Agassiz. Gave us Minnesotans, the Minnesota River and 10,000 lakes. Actually there about 15,000.
I live on one lake and am within six miles of eleven different lakes and and within ten miles of many more.
BTW my lake is completely melted today. Eleven days ago a few cars were driven on the lake.
The Harold Camping of Harvard.
Your Oreske’s Forecast graph is wrong, wrong, wrong. In order to have scientific cred, it must be hockey-stick shaped. If you don’t fix it, you’ll be the laughing stock of the scientific community.
in the wild west you were not a man without a colt.
in modern times you are not a scientist without a hockey stick.
(hockey stick-one of the most underestimated weapons of the 3rd millenium)
Give it another couple of decades, and it will look like a hockey stick.
wouldn’t temperatures have to actually change first?
Common sense and realism tells us that she’s full of shit. I’d like to see them confronted in public using the language I just did. Over and over and over again until they stop the crap.
Academia and politics are the refuge of crooks and liars. Even bankers go to prison.
Making any sort of forecast that far out is meaningless, because none of us, herself included, will be around to see if she is right. She can’t be proven right, she can’t be proven wrong. The only real clue is extrapolation, that clearly shows nothing of the sort.
My old socks with be worth billions in 85 years. Invest now!
The IPCC even admits the models aren’t worth spit.
UnScientific American, slideshow of 11 natural wonders to see before they are eliminated by Climate Change. (Insanity)
http://www.scientificamerican.com/slideshow/11-natural-wonders-to-see-before-they-are-gone-slide-show/?WT.mc_id=SA_Facebook
New “Climate Changer Czar”, Pharrell (singer). What these kids’ heads are being filled with.
From article:
“Protecting our planet is fundamental to the pursuit of human happiness,” Pharrell said, telling the enthusiastic crowd, “We only have one home and there’s climate change… If you don’t (take) care of your home, you don’t have a life, and we have to transition from climate change to climate action.”
A young Brooklynite, Marquis Jamont, was there with his mom to see Pharrell, whom he described as a great person.
“Without Pharrell,” Marquis said, “our planet would not survive.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pharrell-brings-happy-message-on-climate-change-to-u-n/
The Chinese and the Russians are laughing their asses off at the stupid crap people in the west swallow from their leaders.
People can’t get their own lives in order, they expect to get the planet in order? Why not start small?
This is one reason why Jefferson is a hero to me, he advocates minding one’s own business, provided it does not interfere with one’s personal liberty.
But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
Too many people today concern themselves with what I do on my own time and my own property, when it has no bearing on their lives or business. They are miserable wretches who will never be satisfied, and that is their problem. Their misery should, and will be, kept off my land at the point of my gun.
“Naomi Oreskes Predicts 10 Feet Of Sea Level Rise In 85 Years”
That is nothing! I predict a sea level rise of 100 feet in only 50 years! When do I get my check??
First you have to sleep with you profs to get your needed qualification
after having proven that you are qualified(=90% corruppt s-kisser)
you have to sleep with high ranked ipcc members
and learn to become 100% politically correct(=100%corruppt with 0% for moral and truth)sociophant who adores multiculturism(=no culture at all) and love the religion of peacr.
Than you have to learn to look like a trustworthy mankind-loving good-doer slimeball and become a sociopath who in fact wants to kill 90% of humanity who can lie shamelessly to million of people without scruples.
Than they will pay you lots of money for talking crap
I’ve read there is plenty of evidence that sea level was about 5 to 7 meters (16 to 23 feet) higher than today during the last interglacial warm period (Eemian) about 130,000 to 115,000 years ago – obviously without any help from humans. So, if humanity is lucky and our current interglacial warm period continues another few thousand years, natural climate change could possibly produce the same higher sea level result, whether our descendants like it or not. Of course during the coldest part of the glacial periods in our current 3 million year old ice age, sea level was as much as about 200 meters (650 feet) lower than today which creates much different problems (that will pale compared to problems caused by tremendous glaciation and dangerously low CO2 levels). That’s a large sea level range over the recent 100,000 year glacial-interglacial cycles and in the long run humanity will very likely have to deal with these extremes again since there is no evidence that these cycles will stop any time soon.
Oz4caster, good post.
“I’ve read there is plenty of evidence that sea level was about 5 to 7 meters (16 to 23 feet) higher than today during the last interglacial warm period (Eemian) about 130,000 to 115,000 years ago – obviously without any help from humans.”
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That makes perfect sense. Vostok core proxies indicate the Emian was much warmer than today; even much warmer than the hottest periods of the Holocene Optimum. http://www.climate4you.com/images/VostokTemp0-420000%20BP.gif
Both the Vostok and longer running EPICA ice core proxies suggest that all of the previous four interglacial warm periods reached warmer temperatures as indicated in this graph, in which the temperature anomaly estimates have been adjusted (reduced) to approximate global temperature rather than Antarctic temperature:
https://oz4caster.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/climate-reconstructions-500000-years-high2.gif
Take a look at the ten studies I link to above showing the sea level has FALLEN and glaciers have re-established since the Holocene Optimum.
Here are a couple.
Sea level has fallen in geologically stable Vietnam.
Mid to late Holocene sea-level reconstruction of Southeast Vietnam using beachrock and beach-ridge deposits
Glaciers have re-established in the Arctic
Temperature and precipitation history of the Arctic
Miller et al
Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research and Department of Geological Sciences, University of Colorado, USA et al
And at no point did CO2 cause “runaway” global warming.
In fact, raised CO2 due to the warming was unable to maintain warm temperatures.
That’s how feeble the CO2 effect is.
CO2 is by no means ‘feeble’, it is nothing short of a miracle molecule.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2qVNK6zFgE&feature=player_embedded
I performed this exact experiment multiple times in the 1970’s, with differing concentrations of CO2. The one truth always observed, in every instance, was that the higher the CO2 level, the healthier the plant.
Just imagine what our forests would look like if they were not being nearly starved to death.
You are correct Gator. Up north we had an American chestnut. It was down hill of the septic system and close to my compost pile. That tree grew like a weed and bloomed. I had several small chestnuts growing in the vicinity of ‘mama’ That tree was over two feet across and should have been dead of chestnut blight.
I wish I had been aware of the ‘Save the American Chestnut Society’ at the time. They were looking for trees like mine that survived long enough to bloom.
I’m a bit late here but Mont St Michel France founded in the 8th century (1300 years ago) survived the latest tide of the century.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3005352/Thousands-flock-Mont-Saint-Michel-France-witness-tide-century.html
There’s not much sign of a dramatic change in sea level, most changes seem to be as a result of human endeavour rather than human induced climate change
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Saint-Michel
It’s still there and undamaged today.
Of all the places I stayed when I lived in Europe, Mont St Michel was one of my favorites. It is truly special once all the tourists leave for the day, and the streets empty. The room we used to book had direct access to the city ramparts from the bedroom, and strolling the walls in the evening was nothing short of magical.
26.5 million cubic km = ice in Antarctica.
360 million Square km of oceans.
6-10 feet=~2-3m
360 million * 2-3 meters = 720 to 1080 million cubic km of water needed.
I know the math is super rough but I think the point is demonstrated.
Not to mention the surface area would increase the higher the water got. So I am probably way underestimating.
Where is that water going to come from?
Water is more dense than ice. That 26.5 km^3 of ice is even less when it melts.
Is this totally wrong? Am I off base? Could someone tell me? Kind of new at this.
It’s so completely impossible with the simplest of math.
“… approximately 360 million square kilometers (140 million square miles), or 71 percent, are represented by the oceans and mariginal seas.”360,000,000 km
Still not rising: http://pindanpost.com/2015/03/22/sea-level-unmoved/
Somebody please wake me when Miami is being evacuated from “sea-level rise caused by Mann Made Global Warming”. Until then, I’ll just be withholding judgement – null hypothesis still rules.
Here’s a number of nice markers for slr, WW2 airfields built on atolls.
http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/lost-airfields-americans-north-pacific.html