Category five hurricanes cause nearly complete devastation of everything in their path.
The damage from Patricia was not consistent with a category five hurricane. It would be very interesting to find out what that story was all about, other than more government propaganda ahead of Paris.
Strongest hurricane ever was the official government claim. Complete nonsense.
My co-worker is/was down there (Puerto Vallarta I think), and was sent to a shelter. When he returns here, i’ll ask him what he saw for winds/damage etc…and update you.
The devastation is consistent with category 3, not even with category 4 that was reported when Patricia hit the coastline. Definitely not the worst huracán ‘ever’.
Patricia was a tropical storm before the eye made landfall. The outer bands sucked dry cool air from the mountains, which practically start at the beach, into the eyewall, It destroyed the eye while it was still out over the water. This storm was relatively compact with an eye about a quarter size of normal. Low pressure in the Texas region quickly sucked the storm into the existing storm system and things got rougher for Texas and Louisiana than it was for Mexico. It isn’t over yet for the Midwest and points east.
Joe Bastardi at Weather Bell has a 15-minute video from Saturday that explains what happened and will happen in considerable detail.
There were even fake photos of this storm all over Facebook. Patricia was too puny looking, so March 2015 photos of typhoon Maysak were used instead. It was claimed that they were NASA photos of Patricia. Another set of captioned photos came from a combination of the CG storm system used for the film Day After Tomorrow and a water spout from Florida taken much earlier. I didn’t bother researching the original posters, but I did explain the photos to people on my friends list who re-posted them. The source exposing the fraud was Snopes.com.
Some websites, even tv channel such as RT, used old hurricanes videos, probably the first man made hurricane.
Wikipedia
”Late on October 23, Patricia made landfall in a slightly weakened state, though still a Category 5, near Cuixmala, Jalisco”
Well, who believes. It doesn’t look like what cat 5 does.
What I could not figgure out was the small size of the storm.
It was strong, but small. No way could the atmospheric physics
could produce such a Katrina-like event…
Here’s more from the MSM about the (non)damage caused by the storm.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/10/25/hurricane-patricia-mexico-impact/74592084/
Whereas the max winds and low central pressure made this a “strong” storm, it seems to me that if it were like a Camille or Katrina there should still have been massive damage at the impact site. Not so with Patricia. Maybe we need to redefine “strong”.
And as for “strongest ever recorded” – that may be true for modern hurricanes, where reliable data exists. But there is NO WAY we can know anything precise about equally strong storms which have hit Mexico in the past.
Tony, do you know how close the storm tracks were for Patrcia and the 1959 storm?
An alarmists is claiming that storm did not hit mountains nearly as close to to the ocean.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959_Mexico_hurricane
Patricia 2015 (the most powerful ever…):
(from the USA Today link above)
“Hurricane Patricia made landfall on the thinly populated Costa Alegre, a collection of fishing ports, beach towns and, increasingly, luxury villas between Manzanillo to Puerto Vallarta.”
“So far, there are no reports of major damage from Patricia,” Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto said on Twitter Saturday afternoon. “Our gratitude to all for your thoughts, prayers and actions.”
Mexico 1959:
The hurricane had devastating effects on the places it hit. It killed at least 1,000 people directly, and a total of 1,800 people.[14] At that time, it was Mexico’s worst natural disaster in recent times.[13] Most of the destruction was in Colima and Jalisco.[15] A preliminary estimate of property damage was $280 million (1959 USD).[16]
The storm sank three merchant ships,[17] and two other vessels.[18] On one ship, the Sinaloa,[19] 21 of 38 hands went down.[20] On another, the El Caribe, all hands were lost.[19] As many as 150 total boats were sunk.[15]
A quarter of the homes in Cihuatlán, Jalisco, were totally destroyed, leaving many homeless.[17] In Manzanillo, Colima, 40 percent of all homes were destroyed, and four ships in the harbor were sunk.[21] Large portions of Colima and Jalisco were isolated by flooding. Hundreds of people were stranded. Minatitlán, Colima, suffered especially, as 800 people out of its population of 1000 were dead or missing, according to a message sent to President Adolfo López Mateos.[18] In Colima, all coconut plantations were blown down and thousands of people were left out of work. That state’s economy was damaged enough that officials thought it would take years to recover.[15]
By eye the storm tracks look very close. What do you see?
I agree, the storm tracks were quite similar. And those same mountains which sapped the life out of Patricia were there in 1959…
Question – which storm was more powerful???
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Turns out there were 6 storms in 2015 with more Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) !!
Seems the only records Patricia broke, is for amount of hype & misinformation/ lies generated.
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/accumulated_cyclone_energy.asp?bas… There are ten notes at the bottom of that page that give some observations about ACE and cyclone actions.
I ran into a friend of mine today. He wanted to tell me all about a woman he met last week, while he was in Guadalajara. I asked if he had any problems flying out of there on SATURDAY AFTERNOON. His response was basically, “no, why?” He said they just got a little rain. Granted, that’s 40-50 miles from where the eye passed. But according to Accuweather, it was still a cat 2 or 3 hurricane at that point. ( http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/eastern-pacific/2015/Hurricane-Patricia?MR=1 )
Damage looks consistent with a CAT 1 or 2 hurricane.
NEVER FEAR! WE WILL REBUILD!!
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/016/206/rebuild.png
ABC evening news was hand-waving the apparent lack of damage by claiming that Patricia hit a sparsely populated forested region, zooming out into drone footage that showed… pretty much intact forest.
My mom lived through Hurricane Hugo which hit Charleston, SC in 1989. Hugo flattened trees for miles and miles inland from the coast. There is NO WAY a supposed major storm does no coastal tree damage! I suppose we’ll eventually get the truth about Patricia from the NHC…
If that was a 165 mph Cat 5 hurricane, I’ve got some man-made global warming to sell you.
(pulls open trench coat revealing cheap watches and costume jewelry hanging from inside liner)
I have a friend that lives in La Manzanilla, pretty much ground zero. He sent me pictures. His place looked windblown with trees and limbs strewn around and some debris. His house is very much intact and his kittie survived (he was out of town when it hit).
And what is among the first things people try to do after a major storm knocks out power? Restore it. Even Greenies whose homes are damaged and they lose power don’t seem to mind the grid being restored.
Some day, from global warming policies, the grid will go down, perhaps in the middle of winter and thousands or millions will need rescue. No heat? No running water? No gas stations? That will be when the true revolt begins. At this point, most people don’t seem to care about the grid because they’ve never had to face such a scenario. It’s taken for granted. Hindsight is 20/20.