More Arctic BS

NSIDC maps show a 2% decline (red below) in Arctic sea ice extent since May 1.

May 1            May 12

Graphs from both NSIDC and DMI show a 6% decline since May 1.

Ocean and Ice Services | Danmarks Meteorologiske Institut

Just more of the usual BS from the same people.

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36 Responses to More Arctic BS

  1. Cam says:

    I think you mean since May 1st, not June.

    • Phil Jones says:

      The Arctic looks quite FrözEN to me…

      About 400,000 Manhattan’s Worth of shit which doesn’t exist… Al Gore and the Konsensus said Arctic Ice disappeared in 2012…

  2. Griff says:

    I really don’t know how you can post this stuff.

    It is declining at about the same rate as usual… but from the second lowest extent value starting point.

    • tonyheller says:

      The geometry I am presenting is actually quite simple. Not surprised you don’t understand it.

      • Griff says:

        There is nothing to understand… there is not enough accuracy in your method to show any real or comparable figures

        • AndyG55 says:

          Certainly you will never understand, griff.

          You do not have the capability to see passed your brain-washed AGW miasma.

          DENIAL of basic counting now…. ..

          … just like your DENIAL of climate history

        • Gator says:

          There is nothing to understand… there is not enough accuracy in your method to show any real or comparable figures.

          I wonder if he ever hears himself.

        • Andy DC says:

          I’m back! I see Griffy is still here with the same alarmist blather as always.

      • Former95B says:

        Don’t feed the troll, Tony!

    • R. Shearer says:

      The lowest maximum extent in the satellite era was 1974. 2018’s was insignificantly higher.

    • Stewart Pid says:

      Tony – they gotta post the BS to keep the obsessive-compulsive bedwetters like Griff pissing the bed ;-)

    • Timo Soren says:

      @Griff’s comments just show that he is incapable of hearing/reading/understanding something. I suspect the word geometry may be too much for him.

      You (Mr. Heller) give him the references to both sources and he is incapable of comparing the two. I suspect that a simple pixel argument would be too great for him to understand either.

      When the faithful can’t see the obvious, in front of them, for fear it might lead them to confusion they attack, deflect and throw red herring’s.

      I’d just send him a Pepparrotssås advert and leave them at that.

      Keep it up Mr. Heller!

    • sunsettommy says:

      Griffey sure has a talent to fail understanding simple stuff.

      Here is what you missed:

      “NSIDC maps show a 2% decline (red below) in Arctic sea ice extent since May 1”

      “Graphs from both NSIDC and DMI show a 6% decline since May 1.”

      There are two different number silly boy.

      • Griff says:

        I don’t think there’s anything to see here…
        the maps and charts aren’t directly comparable by sticking one map over another

        (And do check the basis on which the chart figures are calculated…)

  3. kyle_fouro says:

    There is tons of ice there and it is becoming thicker. People’s perceptions are extremely warped (or they’re starting trend lines at 1979) if they insist that something concerning is going on.

    • arn says:

      The most “interessting” thing from a point of scientifical integrity is
      is that the former proof and climax of ice age scare (1979-the coldest year)
      which was about to destroy and kill us
      was later turned by the very same climate scientists
      into the best and most normal climate ever that should be preserved by any means and is now treated as some kind of gold standard and best average ever.

      It is no coiincidence that the incredible change of 1979 from doom&gloom ice age
      into point of refeference for perfect climate and proove for global warming
      happened at the same time
      when co2 turned from a live giving meaningless climate gas into
      the ultimate hellfire machine that is now called a pollution.

      When your fairytale turns a 180
      devils have to become gods and gods have to become devils
      to keep your story alive.

    • Griff says:

      No, it isn’t becoming thicker.

      any measure shows less ice, less thick, less old, throughout all points of te year than in 1979 – and continuing its decline.

      and outside the satellite record, there are really good records going back over 100 years which show a recent and continuing decline in the ice.

      • AndyG55 says:

        Yes , it is becoming thicker.

        And yes there are good records and they show this.

        Which matches the NATURAL cycles of the AMO .

        • AndyG55 says:

          Furthermore, longer term biodata shows that the current level is only just a small amount down from the largest extent of 10,000 years


          Makes you look like a mindless little troll.

  4. Latitude says:

    Trump administration quietly cancels $10m NASA program that tracks key greenhouse gases as part of its ‘attack on climate science’

    A $10million per year NASA program to track key global warming contributors carbon and methane has been canceled.

  5. Timo Soren says:

    Actually, I am curious as to a good method to approximating area for each pixel in the NDSIC photo as a square at each latitude would represent a slightly varing equivalent surface area. Tony: do you use a latitude adjusted algorithm?

  6. Lasse says:

    To bad that ice covers the Arctic.
    With less ice cooling of the water and the globe will be more effective.

    • Griff says:

      er, no, it won’t. Quite the opposite: the planet warms more with less ice

      • AndyG55 says:

        RUBBISH !!

      • RAH says:


        The atmosphere over the poles is shallowest and thinnest over the poles and deepest and thickest at the equator.
        The troposphere over the poles runs at about 6 kilometers from the surface to the Tropopause. Over the equator it’s about 20 kilometers from the surface to the Tropopause.

        The oceans currents carry warm water to the Arctic and when there is open water the water cools with much of it’s thermal energy eventually being emitted into space. Ice cover acts as an insulator preventing this transfer.

      • Lasse says:

        You have to try to accept information from 1958 and onwards from DMI.
        There is no sign of heating during any summer.
        The Arctic is a place with low temperature and it would have been even cooler if water was not present.
        The more water exposed to atmosphere the more heat will be transferred FROM the water.

      • AndyG55 says:

        Its pointless explaining basic physics and facts to griff.

        He is IMMUNE to science and facts.

        Inoculated with a high pressure brain-hose rather than a mere brain-wash.

        He is massively and WILFULLY ignorant.

        • RAH says:

          I bet he covers his head when it’s cold. In the human body blood there a large numbers of blood vessels run close the surface in the head, the arm pits, and crotch. Because the head is the most exposed it is where the greatest loss of heat from the body occurs. It is also where significant cooling can occur when a person sweats. It is kind of similar to what goes on in the planets polar regions.

        • Lasse says:

          There is a misunderstanding somewhere and I find it annoying to get this over and over again even in well educated peoples mind.
          I am ready to change my part of misunderstanding if and when someone can show this heat coming into the water.
          If it is -over a year- a net gain or loss.

      • Latitude says:

        Griff says:”er, no, it won’t. Quite the opposite: the planet warms more with less ice”

        ……….I really don’t know how you can post this stuff.

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