Trump Pulls A Romney – Should Have Pulled A Dempsey

Success depends upon previous preparation, and without such preparation there is sure to be failure.

  • Confucius

Republicans always lose elections, because they always fall into the same trap of taking advice from the MSM about “acting presidential” –  otherwise known as “let our incredibly vulnerable Democratic candidate with a terrible track record off the hook.”

Trump could have finished off Hillary and Lester Holt with a couple of one liners like :

Lester, I also questioned Ted Cruz citizenship. Do you believe Canada is a race, and the US Constitutional requirements for presidency are racist?

Secretary Clinton, you just called tens of millions of amazing American women whom you have never met “deplorable, irredeemable racists” …. and you are attacking me over comments about two specific women?

Instead he pulled a Romney and came to the debate unprepared for the obvious coordinated ambush between the moderator and the Democrat. Just like 2012. Trump should have seen it coming from a mile away.

People like winners, and the only thing they remember is who gave the beating, and who took it. Republicans have got to stop listening the MSM. They fall for the same trick every four years. Trump has two more debates to come out swinging and crush Hillary, which is his natural instinct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQmiXvW20Sw

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31 Responses to Trump Pulls A Romney – Should Have Pulled A Dempsey

  1. Gail Combs says:

    Did Trump pull a Romney or did he have another goal?

    None of the solid Trump supporters are going to leave him.

    None of the solid brain-dead democrats are going to leave Hitlery.

    So the fight is for the undecided and wavering.

    The MSM has spent the lead up to the debate hammering home the point that Trump is DANGEROUS. That Trump has a hot temper and can not be trusted not to get the USA into a nuclear war.

    The goal of Lester Holt and Hillary Trump was to get under Trump’s skin and make him come out fighting.

    E.M. Smith noticed this so his advice was:

    The Only Advice I’d Give

    Everything else is elaboration on just one point:

    An election is about electing the national Dad (or Mom). Right now you are seen in many circles as the “grumpy unstable Dad” who’s a bit mean. Nobody likes a spanking… Hillary is coming across as the whining yelling angry Mom. Nobody likes a yelling angry Mom. So your main job in the debate is just to come across as the Dad I see when you are talking with your own kids.

    Kind, understanding, proud of them, and generally a guy I’d like to have a beer with.

    Talk to us like you talk to them.

    Hillary will be trying everything she can to get you into attack mode. You want to let here get ever more shrill and ever more frustrated and become more of the Yelling Mom. For that, humor and embarrassment work better than attack. Remember Mr. Reagan’s “Now there you go again…” with a sly smile and his “I’ll not let my opponents youth and inexperience be an issue” when asked about age. Basically, be seen as having some fun with the debate, not working hard at it, and certainly not being Angry Dad With A Belt.

    Yes, folks want a strong Dad. One who can take care of the neighborhood bully for them and rescue them when they get the car stuck in the sand… but they want that Dad to not overtly chastise them in front of their friends for being out at the river in that sand when they were supposed to be somewhere else. Show them you are that Dad. Strong, firm, and understanding…
    CHIEFIO

    After the debate Scot Adams of Dilbert fame chimes in.

    ….But the most interesting question has to do with what problem both of them were trying to solve with the debate. Clinton tried to look healthy, and as I mentioned, I don’t think she completely succeeded. But Trump needed to solve exactly one problem: Look less scary. Trump needed to counter Clinton’s successful branding of him as having a bad temperament to the point of being dangerous to the country. Trump accomplished exactly that…by…losing the debate.

    Trump was defensive, and debated poorly at points, but he did not look crazy. And pundits noticed that he intentionally avoided using his strongest attacks regarding Bill Clinton’s scandals. In other words, he showed control. He stayed in the presidential zone under pressure. And in so doing, he solved for his only remaining problem. He looked safer.

    By tomorrow, no one will remember what either of them said during the debate. But we will remember how they made us feel.

    Clinton won the debate last night. And while she was doing it, Trump won the election. He had one thing to accomplish – being less scary – and he did it.
    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151007796236/i-score-the-first-debate

    • Robertv says:

      Hitlery Clingon always looks scary to me.

    • tonyheller says:

      The main impression Trump left me with was “unprepared”

      • Colorado Wellington says:

        It could have been a strategy to win over that bar full of “unprepareds”.

      • Gail Combs says:

        Tony that I think was done on purpose for two reasons.

        One — Trump does NOT want to be seen as just another polished politician. People are sick of polished politicians who make empty promises like a slick used car salesman. That has been his big draw from the start and why people go to listen to him by the thousands. It is why he is called the Blue Collar Billionaire. He does not come across as slick.

        I think there was a second reason too.

        Trump let all the bait tossed at him last night go sailing over his head avoiding the MSM’s anticipated cat & dog fight. The guy had the answers. We know he had the answers. We have heard his answers numerous times before at rallies and pressers but he did not use them. That had me very very puzzled at first since he was not unprepared.

        Then it suddenly hit me. Trump reminds me of my cat, Helga, hunting blue jays. She would jump barely off the ground several time so the jays would get very bold and dive bomb her recklessly getting closer and closer to her head. Then all of a sudden she was five feet above them and they were lunch.

        And don’t forget the recency effect. This is THE EFFECT for the currently undecided, don’t really pay attention to politics crowd. They will tune in to the last debate to make up their minds.

        Recency Effect

        This is the principle that the most recently presented items or experiences will most likely be remembered best. If you hear a long list of words, it is more likely that you will remember the words you heard last (at the end of the list) than words that occurred in the middle. This is the recency effect…

        (I already mentioned getting rid of the hot tempered bully image Hillary and the MSM have been so busy building.)

      • andrew says:

        U would make a great advisor to Trump Mr. Heller..on top of the birther issue you could show Trump those news Articles you post stating that he was Kenyan born which Obama never objected too while it still suited him….awesome advice on GW you could provide as well…..do us a favor and contact him!….

      • Bytor says:

        I’m not worried in the slightest. Trump has a strategy, and I trust him that his strategy is going to be playing out during the next 40 days.

        As we saw throughout the primary process, at every single turn, while Trump was playing 3 dimensional chess, all the others were still playing checkers, and he demolished them, quite easily I might add. Not too shabby for non-politician that has probably rarely, if ever, been in a debate prior to this election.

        There is one line that I would recommend Trump use at some point in a debate (hat tip to my coworker) :

        “In all of the history of the United States, not a single President has ever utilized debating skill to solve a problem. Real Presidents use negotiating skill

        Again, I am not worried. I believe Trump played a strategy move, and I believe he played it virtually perfectly. Was I disappointed that he didn’t grind her into fine powder? .. absolutely, I could not have restrained myself like he did. And because of this, I know he is playing a strategy, and I believe Hillary Clinton and the Clinton cartel just landed smack dab into the middle of that strategy Monday night. Trump, although quite brilliant himself, also has one of the best groups of people on the planet advising him at this moment. I believe they are all engaged in a game of 3 dimensional chess, that at the end of the day is going to completely obliterate his competition. It is what he does. It is what he has been doing very well for his entire life.

        And lastly, everything he has been doing in the general election is fitting to a very similar pattern that he did to many of his combatants during the primary election process. I predict the next debate is going to be something quite different than what we saw on Monday night. And surely the final debate will be the best of them all, just like he did through the primaries, he going to do it again through the general. Remember his first couple of debates during the primaries? …. remember his last one? … now I ask you, did Monday night look anything like his last primary debate? .. or did it look like his first one?

        ! ! B I N G O ! !

        3D chess man … 3D chess … I’m not the only one that has recognized this. Some pretty top strategists around the country have seen this clearly, and I believe they are right.

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  3. Gail Combs says:

    Hillary’s Problems

    At the debate the one point Trump did drive home was the economy: bad trade, high taxes and jobs.

    He did not do much elaboration, he didn’t really have to since he has been hammering these points and explaining them for over a year.

    Hillary has two big problems her reputation as a LIAR and what she will do for you not TOO you.

    First her economic/Job policy:
    1. Raise taxes across the board. She even slipped up and told the TRUTH. Raise taxes on the middle class because you can’t really raise taxes on the wealthy or big corporations, they just leave the country as has been seen for the last couple of decades. (Trump has explained this at every rally)

    At a Clinton rally 8-1-2016: ‘RAISE TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS!’ – YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ua13_gYQn0

    2. Add to the tax burden with free college and free childcare (a sop to the Bernie Kids)

    2. Kill Coal mining jobs, therefore kill steel and factory jobs. Again BOTH Clinton’s have said this during this election cycle. (This was Trump’s other basket)

    3. Hillary point blank said at the debate she will be Replacing the jobs leaving the country with ‘Clean Energy Jobs’

    Except she is eight years too late to get that dodo to fly.

    We already saw Obummer DOUBLE the national debt with his clean energy job stimulus and other idiocies. Most working Americans (those who actually vote) have seen the debt rise and those clean energy jobs never materialize… except in China. They have also seen ‘government giveaways and promises’ in their healthcare cost going through the roof along with the deductible as they work two or three shit jobs to make less than they did at their factory job.

    THAT is what really counts. The regular people, the union workers scared about jobs.
    How Trump won over a bar full of undecideds and Democrats

    • Gail Combs says:

      Scott Adams also points out that Trump’s economic policy is the hook for him.

      Why I Switched My Endorsement from Clinton to Trump

      #2 Confiscation of Property:
      Clinton proposed a new top Estate Tax of 65% on people with net worth over $500 million. Her website goes to great length to obscure the actual policy details, including the fact that taxes would increase on lower value estates as well. See the total lack of transparency here, where the text simply refers to going back to 2009 rates. It is clear that the intent of the page is to mislead, not inform.

      So don’t fall for the claim that Clinton has plenty of policy details on her website. She does, but it is organized to mislead, not to inform. That’s far worse than having no details.

      The bottom line is that under Clinton’s plan, estate taxes would be higher for anyone with estates over $5 million(ish). I call this a confiscation tax because income taxes have already been paid on this money. In my case, a dollar I earn today will be taxed at about 50% by various government entities, collectively. With Clinton’s plan, my remaining 50 cents will be taxed again at 50% when I die. So the government would take 75% of my earnings from now on.….
      [This is the same type of tax that has bankrupted the UK, transferring all the wealth to the government where it is frittered away.]

      #6. Persuasion:
      Economies are driven by psychology. If you expect things to go well tomorrow, you invest today, which causes things to go well tomorrow, as long as others are doing the same. The best kind of president for managing the psychology of citizens – and therefore the economy – is a trained persuader. You can call that persuader a con man, a snake oil salesman, a carnival barker, or full of shit. It’s all persuasion. And Trump simply does it better than I have ever seen anyone do it.

      The battle with ISIS is also a persuasion problem. The entire purpose of military action against ISIS is to persuade them to stop, not to kill every single one of them. We need military-grade persuasion to get at the root of the problem. Trump understands persuasion, so he is likely to put more emphasis in that area.

      Most of the job of president is persuasion. Presidents don’t need to understand policy minutia. They need to listen to experts and then help sell the best expert solutions to the public. Trump sells better than anyone you have ever seen….

  4. Gail Combs says:

    Hillary’s Other Problem – She is a known liar

    The MSM, Hillary and the ‘moderator’ were ALL Hillary’s partners at the debate. It was three against one and people do not like bullies.

    The ‘moderator’ would not allow Trump to finish an answer. Hitlery was much better prepared and had a sheath full of notes that she read from. (Guy caught on camera grabbing them) Plus I am sure she had the questions ahead of time and those questions were all chosen to trip Trump up. Hillary answered the questions way to quickly smoothly and coherently for the questions to be a surprise. It was like watching two well reheased actors in a play with Trump interrupting from the sidelines and getting swatted down.

    The moderator interrupted (attacked) Trump 41 times and Hillary only 7
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/27/holt-interrupted-trump-way-more-than-clinton-in-debate/

    The ‘moderator’ went after Trump on every Hitlery Ad talking point.

    It was all ‘Now Mr Trump when did you stop beating your wife’ type attacks.

    Birther (Hillary’s campaign did start it.)
    Racism (Trump’s Miami Club was first to accept Jews and Blacks.)
    Sexism (NYT tried that and got shot down by the women they misquoted)
    Bankruptcy (It was 4 not 6 and typical in any business — 80% fail within first five years.)
    Temperment (He did not sock her and I would have since I hate liars.)
    Russia (I wish Trump had brought up the hacking is due to the US government backdoor in all our computers. link)
    Tax Return (Who cares? It gets audited by the IRS every year and people HATE the IRS.)

    There was not ONE question from the ‘moderator’ about Benghazi, Hillary’s server and emails, Iran, Gaddafi, Fast N furious, Solyndra, her defending a rapist and laughing on tape….

    In other words the debate was no debate it was just another Hillary Smear Ad with the system illustrating Trump’s point. THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED!

    I am glad most people think the MSM are lying pieces of bupkus.
    …………

    Side note:
    Since Trump has been calling out the MSM on their lies the confidence in the MSM has really nose dived.

    An April 18, 2016 article tells you what Gallup has been trying to hide for the last few years by changing how their data is reported.. Only 6% of Americans trust the media – survey

    The American Press Institute report [A survey of more than 2,000 adults] comes in the wake of a September 2015 Gallup poll which found that only 7 percent of Americans have a great deal of trust in the media, with about 33 percent saying they had a fair amount, and 60 percent claiming they had either little or no trust in the media…

    To hide the nosedive Gallop combined a great deal of trust in the media, with a fair amount of trust to give a higher number for those who ‘trust the MSM’ unlike in earlier years.

    September 28, 2015 Americans’ Trust in Media Remains at Historical Low

    Four in 10 Americans say they have “a great deal” or “a fair amount” of trust and confidence in the mass media to report the news fully, accurately and fairly….

    Americans’ confidence in the media has slowly eroded from a high of 55% in 1998 and 1999. Since 2007, the majority of Americans have had little or no trust in the mass media….

    But the really interesting bit is the fast fall in trust in the MSM over the last year since Trump has been hammering home the fact the DNC and MSM are in bed together.

    September 14, 2016 Americans’ Trust in Mass Media Sinks to New Low

    Americans’ trust and confidence in the mass media “to report the news fully, accurately and fairly” has dropped to its lowest level in Gallup polling history, with 32% saying they have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the media. This is down eight percentage points from last year.

    This means all of the MSM and Hillary lies are getting dissected on-line even by old ladies like me with no computer courses under our belts.

    • Edmonton Al says:

      Great Are you going to send this to the Trump campaign??
      Please do…………..

      • Bytor says:

        They already know these things. I don’t believe you need to be sending them anything other than your support at this point. Trump is not going to waver from his strategy. And I for one trust him. He’s going to get the job done!

    • DD More says:

      Gail – “Bankruptcy (It was 4 not 6 and typical in any business — 80% fail within first five years.)”

      Current Trump -2016-Financial-Disclosure shows 564 Current Held Outside Government with most as Pres / CEO / Director. Let alone the past 40 years worth of Held Position’s, only 4 is unbelievable.

      here – https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2838696-Trump-2016-Financial-Disclosure.html

      • Gail Combs says:

        I took it from this:
        http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/21/carly-fiorina/trumps-four-bankruptcies/

        And from this:

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2011/04/29/fourth-times-a-charm-how-donald-trump-made-bankruptcy-work-for-him/

        Since politfact is partnered with the DNC I figured if there were any more they would have dug them out.

        Still does not matter. If you are in business all your life, you end up going bankrupt or out of business as conditions change.

      • Bytor says:

        You are CORRECT! … I have studied his bankruptcies quite thoroughly. Out of 537 companies, Trump has engaged in bankruptcy exactly 4 times. That is only a 0.7% failure rate. A failure rate for which any businessman on the planet would be eternally jealous of. Furthermore, and never reported on, he actually sold other personal assets to ensure many creditors and workers were paid in full, despite not required to do so under bankruptcy law. Remember his luxurious yacht (one of the most fabulous yachts in the world at the time)? … he sold that (and some other assets) and used the proceeds to pay creditors in his Taj Mahal fiasco. These things are never reported, and quite frankly difficult to research and find, but alas, they are there.

        Bottom line, whether you like Trump or not, he has spent his life as an exceptional businessman in every regard. He is currently only leveraged to the tune of about $600 MILLION (perhaps less). When one considers the projects and properties encompassed within his organization (one alone over $3.9 BILLION), $600 MILLION owed to creditors isn’t even a grain of sand in the Sahara … Shoot, there is nary a creditor on the planet that wouldn’t loan Trump $600 MILLION just on his Trump Tower in NY alone!

  5. Scott Scarborough says:

    With regards to the Obama country of birth controversy, why wouldn’t Trump say “Excuse me, I mistakenly believed that Obama and his book publisher were telling the truth for the 15 years before his presidency. I’ll never make such an assumption, that Obama tells the truth, again!”

    • Steve Clough says:

      And since when is being a “birther” is being racist? The MSM expose that they are one and the same. BS!

      • Gail Combs says:

        AMEN!

        Racist is used when ever an uncomfortable truth surfaces about Obummer.

        At this point I never want to see or hear that word again! It has gone TOXIC and I am sure I am not the only one who thinks that way. Hence the new term of derision Alt-right.

        • Bytor says:

          I would not say it has gone “toxic” as much as I would say it has become completely ineffectual. The word “racist” simply no longer carries any meaning. The moment I see someone use the word “racist”, nothing else they ever say makes any difference to me. It is an automatic tune-out from there on.

    • DD More says:

      Scott, being born here [citizenship] does not meet the entire requirements for holding the Office of President under the Constitution. It’s ‘Natural Born’, which messed Cruz up also, which requires Both Parents to be citizens and born on native soil or under the complete jurisdiction of the USA.

      Also in the early 1960’s, a mother had to have lived at least 5 years after the age of 14 within the States in order to confirm citizenship. Mama Stanley was 19 and had been overseas a couple years, so he legally could not give him citizenship.

      Then there is dual citizenship and the 14th Amendment and related floor discussion. Great read on that here –

      The same kind of confusion that has led us to accept birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens has led us to tolerate dual citizenship. We recall that the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment specified that those who are naturalized must owe exclusive allegiance to the U.S. to be included within its jurisdiction. And the citizenship oath taken today still requires a pledge of such allegiance. But in practice dual citizenship—and dual allegiance—is allowed. This is a sign of the decline of American citizenship and of America as a nation-state.
      http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/birthright-citizenship-and-dual-citizenship-harbingers-of-administrative-tyranny/

  6. RAH says:

    I was sleeping in a truck stop the night of the debate and have not watched it and will not watch it. I have though, spent a good amount of time to reading the various takes from various sources both left and right.

    My impression is that there was no clear winner but there was a very clear loser. The loser was the MSM. Holt’s obvious bias followed a MSM drubbing of Matt Lauer who was judged to have been unfair to Hillary by the elite, which to us little guys means he attempted to be impartial. Holt wasn’t going to go down with Lauer and in maintaining his liberal press credentials damaged the medias already flaggin credibility even more.

    Most of the undecided voters at this time are not really focused on the issues. Where the candidates stand on the most prominent issues has been clear for some time. IMO most of the undecided voters are wanting to see if Trump is the dishonest, unstable, and dangerous buffoon the largest part of the media have been working overtime to make him out to be. It seems that Trump made great progress in assuaging those fears and bucking that image and that is important.

    • Gail Combs says:

      RAH you see the YUGE difference in rally response between Trump and Hillary right after the debate. No matter how the MSM tries to paper over it, Hillary does not inspire voters. It was so bad that NOT ONE person showed at her event for campaign volunteers in Ohio. She has lost Ohio and she knows it so she quit even trying in that state. (Have links somewhere)

      Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 27 minutes ago Orlando Sanford International Airport (SFB)
      Unbelievable evening in Melbourne, Florida w/ 15,000 supporters- and an additional 12,000 who could not get in. Thank you! #TrumpTrain #MAGA
      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtZwyCfWcAECbdL.jpg:large

      After First Debate Hillary Clinton Has Hard Time Filling Gym at Technical College

      Guess that debate didn’t help out too much?

      Hillary Clinton held her first rally in a week after the first presidential debate on Monday.

      Hillary spoke in the gymnasium at Wake Technical College on Tuesday.
      She had a hard time filling the gym.

      About 300-500 people showed up – counting campaign members.

      ………….

      Trump is conducting a completely unorthodox campaign. He is not following the rules.

      He attacks the MSM instead of kissing their rosy red …

      He does not spend gazillions on useless TV ads (technology and computers have made TV ads almost useless.)

      He does not agree that the Union members and Blacks ‘BELONG’ to the Democrats and is aggressively courting them as well as the legal Hispanics.

      He has been saying the system is rigged and the DNC and GOPe outed themselves:
      The GOPe tossed hissy fits claiming it was THEIR party and proved it in Colorado by changing the rules at the last minute.
      The Democrats got hit by the DNC leaks and responded by tossing the Bernie Kids out of the convention INCLUDING the delegates. (Temper, Temper….)

      Therefore Trump has spent a year (with the help of the GOPe and DNC and MSM) making sure people would watch the Debate KNOWING it was RIGGED and that is exactly what people saw. A beat down by the MODERATOR and Hillary on a guy trying to be a gentleman.

      It was noted Trump used Secretary Clinton while Hillary used the belittling ‘Donald’

      • Edmonton Al says:

        Gail…
        You had better volunteer for the Trump campaign.
        Your ability to track down the necessaty info is wonderful.
        Why not offer you services….??

        • RAH says:

          Gail has been working for the Trump campaign for months now.

          • Gail Combs says:

            YUP!

            I have been trying to toss information out hoping others can spread it or use it.

            Never forget “Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon” It is a parlour game based on the “six degrees of separation” concept, which posits that any two people on Earth are six or fewer acquaintance links apart.

            EXAMPLE:
            Hubby played with friends and found, depending, he was two or three contacts from the Queen of England.

            I am probably only a few since I managed to rescue a Swedish Ambassador to the USA who got stranded on the highway. I also have contacts in the Combined driving equestrian sport and the Prince of Wales was a competitor and early sponsor.

            With the internet information spreads like wildfire and since many dislike Hillary and are worried about the economy it spreads even faster.

            The truth about CAGW doesn’t spread as fast because most people don’t really care one way or the other. They can not see t hitting their pockets even though it does.

  7. Steve Clough says:

    When Holt brought up the topic of cyber security Trump had a huge opportunity to slam Clinton but whiffed! All he needed to say was this, ” The topic of cyber security alone should disqualify Clinton from being POTUS! Her record on this issue from the 30,000 deleted emails, cleaning the server (‘…with a rag or something’….. stupid), the bathroom server as SOS and the DNC being hacked should prove to the American electorate that she is not qualified to be POTUS and would be dangerous if elected!”

    • Bytor says:

      All he should have said was “[laughter], I would continue to protect America in the best and most effective ways possible, Hillary Clinton has already shown us what she would do”

      … BAM! … nuff said

  8. OrganicFool says:

    Trump is (hopefully) playing rope-a-dope strategy and will come out swinging the next two.

    Five words he forgot: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/27/first-debate-5-things-donald-trump-forgot/

    I would also add the word “Constitution”. Hillary and the Left are anti-Constitution and US Sovereignty.

    Check out the podcast Blunt Force Truth with Chuck Woolery (of Wheel of Fortune fame), this one on the history of the 2nd Amendment:
    http://bluntforcetruth.com/shooting-holes-in-the-arguments-against-gun-control-episode-219/

    • Bytor says:

      I don’t know if the “come out swinging” is the right strategy. As Newt pointed out tonight on Hannity, Hillary has to fight in the gutter. She cannot win this election on the proverbial “high road”. Trump needs to stay out of the gutter and keep the conversation about solutions and moving forward. Hillary Clinton cannot win this election if the focus is on actual subjects that matter to the country. I believe Trump will continue forcing the conversation (in debates) to actual issues. At least that is what he should do.

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